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2:50

We now have Barbara on

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and Barbara played Nathan Scott,

2:54

Nathan Scott's mother, Deb. Yeah. We

2:57

never met, apparently, which I

2:59

just don't, I feel like we did,

3:01

but I guess we didn't. No, I

3:03

feel like I know you, but we

3:05

never, I mean, I know we didn't

3:07

cross paths on the show, but then

3:09

you think like post show we would

3:11

have, but I really don't think we

3:13

have. I want to know your least

3:15

favorite part about working on

3:17

the show. And then your best. Start

3:20

with the least. Okay. And with the

3:22

best. We're going to go deep. And

3:24

then we're going to go. I want

3:26

to know more personal stuff because I

3:29

just found out something that I had

3:31

no idea about and I'm really excited

3:33

to talk about it. So. Oh my

3:35

God. Okay, I'm going deep immediately. Okay.

3:38

Go worst part. So worst part is

3:40

sort of post show when I found

3:42

out all the stuff that happened on

3:44

the show and me being like

3:46

a maternal immediately. I didn't know

3:49

half the stuff. I didn't know any of

3:51

the stuff that was going on on the

3:53

show and I wish I had been there

3:55

and I've I've already like offered many

3:58

apologies to my co-stars and I

4:00

just wish, I feel like I could

4:02

have made a difference because I like

4:04

being a sounding board. I have a

4:06

good ear and it just broke my

4:08

heart when I heard that, you know,

4:10

obviously things weren't happening to me because

4:12

I was like 130 years old according

4:15

to no, but seriously, I was in

4:17

that environment I was. So, you know,

4:19

it didn't happen to me. So I

4:21

was just oblivious to everything. So I

4:23

think that's the worst part of it

4:25

because honestly I don't have anything bad

4:27

to say while I was on the

4:29

while I was on the show. It

4:32

was such a great experience for me.

4:34

Because how old were you when you

4:36

started the show? Oh my God, I

4:38

have no idea. They're like 36 maybe?

4:40

36, yeah. And it's so funny that

4:42

the writers were painting us, the parents

4:44

is like the old people, and we're

4:47

like 36 years old. And I think

4:49

I felt old because of that. Well,

4:51

that was one of my questions too

4:53

for you because I just played a

4:55

mom in a movie to like a

4:57

16-year-old. And I really struggled with it.

4:59

The first time you play a mom,

5:02

is like, do they see me that

5:04

old? Well, so I've played a mom

5:06

before, but to Littles. To a teenager.

5:08

But I was like, am I old

5:10

enough to have a 16-year-old and my

5:12

best friend, Catherine? She's like, well, I

5:14

have a 16-year-old. I know. I was

5:16

like, I have a 16-year-old. I know.

5:19

I was like, I know. But like,

5:21

I know, I know. But we're like,

5:23

when I was filming that. I was

5:25

filming that. I was filming that. I

5:27

was filming that. Have I officially aged

5:29

out of the my 30? You know

5:31

mid 30 roles and I'm I now

5:34

just always gonna be the mom and

5:36

I had a really really hard time

5:38

kind of Rest and I'm like I

5:40

am a mom like I'm a mom

5:42

like I'm a mom to three and

5:44

you know it's so it was just

5:46

but I think that the older kid

5:48

piece of it was the rest chuckled

5:51

with for some reason I know I've

5:53

always just thought like no I'm the

5:55

the young girl next door role. I

5:57

know. But I'm not anymore. I know

5:59

the first time that you're not the

6:01

youngest person in the room right anymore

6:03

like I'm looking around like okay you

6:06

know it's. weird feeling but as long

6:08

as you stay young up here as

6:10

well. Yeah, no for sure. Cliches. That's

6:12

true and we grow and that's great

6:14

that we continue to be cast in

6:16

those things. Yeah and as long as

6:18

your hot mom that's all it matters.

6:20

Right. Okay so yeah no I I

6:23

don't beat yourself up about not for

6:25

this I can understand that would be

6:27

really tough but even then it's he

6:29

was gonna do yeah I mean I

6:31

still we had a I remember he

6:33

texted me one time and he said,

6:35

you know, I'm flying you out to

6:38

New York, you're going to become a

6:40

series regular. I can't wait to celebrate.

6:42

Maybe I'll come to your room. And

6:44

I remember calling my boyfriend at the

6:46

time, going, I need you to get

6:48

to New York because I don't know

6:50

what to do when he, like, he

6:53

just made me serious drug created the

6:55

show. Yeah. And so my boyfriend flew

6:57

to New York. for that to be

6:59

there. And then when he knocked, I

7:01

was like, he showed up, I'm sorry,

7:03

you know, like, I didn't. And then

7:05

he went to someone else in the

7:07

cast. So once he knew that I

7:10

was, you know, not available for that,

7:12

he then moved on to someone else.

7:14

It was, you know, it's sick. I

7:16

mean, it's just like, I honestly wish

7:18

I knew and I probably could not

7:20

have made a difference, but in my

7:22

mind, I think I could have. I

7:25

mean, just to be someone to talk

7:27

to, just to be the mother figure,

7:29

to all these girls who didn't have

7:31

mothers there in Wilmington, North Carolina, you

7:33

know, just like, let's all get together

7:35

and figure out what to do here.

7:37

And when all this came out later,

7:39

I was in denial, I couldn't believe

7:42

it happened because I thought I would

7:44

have known. Right. I think the piece

7:46

that always frustrated me was, did you

7:48

just hire me because you thought, oh.

7:50

You know, what you have hired me

7:52

if I was married. I know, you

7:54

know, maybe not. There's something. Oh, do

7:57

you want to get into everything? Like

7:59

the whole me too stuff. I could

8:01

tell you so many stories. Take your

8:03

ring off for an audition, you know,

8:05

like, uh. Yeah. It's just. But anyway,

8:07

here we are. Were you married? You

8:09

were married? You have kids? You were

8:11

married? Yes. For how many years? 20-something

8:14

years. And then you have how many

8:16

kids? Three kids. Three girls. They're all

8:18

actors. When did you get divorced? Six

8:20

years ago? For a reason or was

8:22

it just like a long time coming?

8:24

Okay. Yeah. Was one of those. Yeah.

8:26

Were you scared to start over? Oh

8:29

my God. Can I tell you something?

8:31

Yeah. So there was I was just

8:33

telling the girls there was a period

8:35

of my time in my life There

8:37

was a period of time where I

8:39

sort of looked for people who were

8:41

struggling like whether it was watching a

8:44

movie or watching a TV show or

8:46

watching a podcast Anybody who was struggling?

8:48

Maybe you should have just totally come

8:50

on my Instagram was accidental Oh, that

8:52

I saw one of your podcast. Oh

8:54

my god. I'm getting goosebumps now and

8:56

here I'm talking to you And you

8:58

were talking about, and you were just

9:01

an open book, talking about your struggle,

9:03

what you were going through with your

9:05

ex. And it made, I'm sorry,

9:07

but it made me feel so

9:09

good, like Misery loves company kind

9:11

of thing, but you're so beautiful

9:13

and young and vibrant and like

9:16

if she's going through it, it

9:18

made me feel tiny bit better

9:20

that I was going through it.

9:22

And seriously, like that, your misery

9:24

made me feel right. I'm sorry,

9:26

so sorry. Yeah, but I mean,

9:29

but I did it though, you

9:31

know, it was that you were

9:33

open about it and there's nothing

9:35

to be ashamed of because, you

9:37

know, these things happen to everybody.

9:39

And let's all share the story

9:42

and we'll all feel like we're

9:44

all in the same boat, you

9:46

know, like, we're not perfect. No.

9:48

And if anyone can relate, I

9:50

have stories to tell if anyone

9:52

can relate and benefit from it,

9:55

makes me feel better. Did you

9:57

think that you would find love

9:59

again? Or... No. No. And I

10:01

was okay with that. Like I

10:03

really came to terms and I

10:05

don't want to keep saying like,

10:08

as you get older, but as

10:10

you do get older, and I

10:12

have my girls, they're my love,

10:14

they're my relationships, they're my romance,

10:16

they're my everything. And I got

10:18

to a point where I was

10:21

really okay with that. And you

10:23

know, I hang out with their

10:25

friends, they're my friends, and I

10:27

don't go to bars, and I

10:29

don't really go out, I'm a

10:31

home body. Where am I going

10:34

to meet someone? And I, you

10:36

know, my girls signed me up

10:38

for the dating apps. Ew. It's

10:40

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10:42

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10:44

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13:01

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13:12

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13:18

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get your podcast. I

15:23

just found this out. I didn't watch The

15:25

Golden Bachelor. Yeah. And so I just found

15:28

out that you were dating someone who was

15:30

on that show? Yes. So, okay, help me,

15:32

help me get that timeline. Okay. Do you

15:34

want to know the truth or do you

15:37

want to know the story we tell people?

15:39

I heard a rumor that you slid into

15:41

his dams. Well, that's the truth. That's the

15:43

truth. Okay. And that's okay. My husband that

15:46

I'm married to now slid into my dams.

15:48

Slid into my dams. And he hates. He

15:50

literally hates. He literally hates. He literally hates

15:52

it when I when I when I when

15:55

I say it when I say it when

15:57

I say it when I say it when

15:59

I say it when I say it when

16:01

I say it when I say it when

16:04

I say it when I say it when

16:06

I say it when I say that he

16:08

literally hates it when I say it when

16:10

I say it when I say it when

16:13

I say it when I say it when

16:15

I say it when I say it when

16:17

I say it politely and wanted to meet

16:19

you. I was like, but you slid into

16:22

my dams. Like you straight up saw, wanted

16:24

to meet, that's what it is. Yeah. And

16:26

why is it a little bit different if

16:28

a girl does? it to a guy, I'm

16:31

not sure, but maybe it makes me more

16:33

powerful. How did you see him to begin

16:35

with? So his daughter was on The Bachelor

16:37

is a contestant. Okay. Okay. So they went

16:40

to their hometowns and this is coincidentally I

16:42

was which which show which which bachelor? I'm

16:44

Joey. Joey. Okay, I didn't watch that one.

16:47

Yeah. So I was on the couch. We

16:49

this is something this is like a tradition.

16:51

How many years? Oh, like a year, I

16:53

don't know, like a couple years ago. Like

16:56

last season, not the one that's on now,

16:58

but the one before it, I think. And

17:00

we've been watching The Bachelor forever, me and

17:02

my girls, sitting on the couch, like what

17:05

not to do, you know, like training. We

17:07

call it school because I homeschooled them, like,

17:09

okay, got an hour school. So I was

17:11

talking to my youngest about, this is, you

17:14

want a guy that looks at you and

17:16

smiles and like welcomes people, welcomes people. And

17:18

coincidentally, we were watching the show and this

17:20

guy in the background who was the dad

17:23

smiled and I said, that's what I'm talking

17:25

about, right there, that's what I'm talking about.

17:27

Kind of forgot about it. And then they

17:29

asked him to be on the Golden Bachelor

17:32

and like, oh, there's my boyfriend and I

17:34

was joking. The Golden Bachelor, the last one?

17:36

The Golden Bachelorette. They asked him to be

17:38

a contestant because I wasn't the only one

17:41

who noticed his smile when he was in

17:43

the background. He ends up on the Golden

17:45

Bachelorette and I was joking with my daughter

17:47

is like, oh my god, my boyfriend's gonna

17:50

be on the show. Oh, he's cheating on

17:52

me. Mark. Oh my God. What play, wait,

17:54

wait, how long were you on the show

17:56

for? That's what I'm talking about. How long

17:59

was he on the show on the show?

18:01

I didn't watch that one either. There's a

18:03

contestant. So he was on until the very

18:05

end. and we connect and we're talking. He's

18:08

so angry at you right now. And I

18:10

did not. I did not. No, this is

18:12

the first time I'm talking about this, by

18:14

the way. I did not know whether he

18:17

was still on the show or not. Like

18:19

he could have had this girl in his

18:21

closet in the back room. I had no

18:23

idea because I refused to talk about The

18:26

Bachelor. Like I didn't want that to be

18:28

the reason we were talking. And so I

18:30

would watch the show with this guy I

18:33

just connected with. Is he going to kick

18:35

him? Oh, he's still on the show. She

18:37

chose him. He's still on the show and

18:39

then I would get a call from him

18:42

like we're talking and he's wait you guys

18:44

were talking at this time already because you

18:46

DM him airs later, you know, you DM

18:48

him then when Before he was on the

18:51

show I think I DMed him during when

18:53

he went to the final I don't know

18:55

women tell all something I don't know something

18:57

I don't know something later. Oh, okay, sure

19:00

then he ends up on hands up on

19:02

the And toward the end of the show,

19:04

we start deeming. We start texting each other.

19:06

And so we were full on talking for

19:09

a couple months and me not knowing if

19:11

he was literally still. Why did he tell

19:13

you? We just didn't. We didn't talk. What?

19:15

Are you crazy? No. That would have been

19:18

my first question. Are you engaged? Are you

19:20

engaged? And he was home so it made

19:22

sense, but I seriously did not want to

19:24

talk about the damn show. Okay. So he

19:27

just connected, you know, he doesn't live in

19:29

LA, so we didn't see each other. Otherwise

19:31

I may have gotten more specific, but we're

19:33

just talking, you know. And then the night

19:36

he got kicked off, my daughters were there

19:38

with me, we were celebrating like, oh. Why

19:40

did he get kicked off? Because it was

19:42

fate that he was going to be with

19:45

me. Right. All right, is he happy he

19:47

got kicked off? I'm looking at him. I'm

19:49

like, I see, I see I had not.

19:51

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on the i-heart radio app,

26:25

Apple Podcast, or wherever you

26:27

get your podcast. He's

26:30

just giving me the eyebrow raises.

26:32

He's just Mr. GQ in the

26:34

corner over there. He's like, I've

26:37

got to peek in. I would

26:39

love for him too. Can you?

26:41

Come here. Come on Mark. Come

26:44

here. Come on Mark. Come on

26:46

Mark. Come on Mark. Mark. Markity

26:48

Mark. He wants his, come on,

26:51

come on in. He would have

26:53

gone through glam if he had

26:55

known, you know. Did they ask

26:58

you to be the golden bachelor?

27:00

No, why? The show wasn't for

27:03

me. Yeah. What piece of it

27:05

was, wasn't for you? What piece

27:07

wasn't for me? What piece of

27:10

it? That what, like, what, what,

27:12

why wasn't it what you liked?

27:14

Because I already have some. Well,

27:17

no, no, I know, but when

27:19

you were on it. I mean,

27:21

I went there. for

27:26

a specific like I was

27:28

looking for something when I went

27:30

there. And for me, I

27:32

didn't find like the experience for

27:35

me was fantastic. Like it

27:37

was a best thing that could

27:39

have happened to me at

27:41

that time. Sure. Because it helped

27:43

me grow as a person

27:45

because of the other men that

27:48

were there. That was for

27:50

me, like the experience of a

27:52

lifetime. and I don't think

27:54

it could ever be replicated, you

27:57

know, like I could never... I

28:02

don't think that could ever improve, you

28:04

know, like I don't think that could

28:06

be ever done again. Have y'all mingled

28:09

the kids together? Yes. How's that? We

28:11

had Christmas. We all met in Branson,

28:13

Missouri, all of our kids and spouses

28:16

and boyfriends and girlfriends and it was

28:18

wild. Because all of our kids are

28:20

about the same age. Oh, that's sweet.

28:23

I don't know, possibly the best time

28:25

I've ever had in my life. Like

28:27

it was crazy. Games, like constant, like

28:30

just like drinking games and games and

28:32

indoor outdoor ping pong, like botchy ball,

28:34

like name it, we did it. And

28:37

Joey, his son-in-law to be is an

28:39

ex or maybe current tennis instructor and

28:41

there were racquetball, or what is it?

28:43

Pickle ball courts. You were there? I

28:46

know it's trending in the middle of

28:48

the year. And so he was teaching

28:50

everybody and there's ping pong and like,

28:53

oh, it was just like, it was

28:55

heaven. I feel like there's something to

28:57

be said about the relationships you find

29:00

post divorce when you're older because not

29:02

only I grown post my divorce, but

29:04

also I know my husband, my now

29:07

husband has too, and he's learned how

29:09

to love me better in this marriage

29:11

too. And I know how to love,

29:14

I think if we would have met

29:16

even in my 30s, even in my

29:18

30s. I don't think I would have

29:21

treated him the way that I know

29:23

a man deserves to be treated. And

29:25

I think vice versa. So I think

29:28

there's something to be said taking some

29:30

of the things that we didn't do

29:32

perfectly in our marriage before, whether it

29:35

was our fault or not. And then

29:37

bringing, you know, the growth into a

29:39

new relationship, I think is a beautiful

29:42

thing. So. But I do believe that

29:44

you've been a great guy and giving

29:46

and caring your whole life. I may

29:49

not have been, but you have been,

29:51

but you have been. I mean, I

29:53

really believe he's been like that forever.

29:56

And I want to, I have not

29:58

met his mother yet, and I just

30:00

want to hug her and thank her

30:03

because someone raised you right, man. Like,

30:05

you're a good person. And you want

30:07

to get married too? Yeah. I love

30:10

this. Should I just do it right

30:12

now? Right now. I'm actually an ordained

30:14

minister. No, I'm not at all. That

30:17

is, and are you still acting? Yeah.

30:19

You still, wait, you just did a,

30:21

were you on lifetime? Oh, probably. Yeah,

30:23

I feel like I just. saw you

30:26

in something, but yeah, we need to

30:28

play my daughter in something. No, let's

30:30

do it. Let's do it. And not

30:33

the jealous type. No, him? Yeah. I

30:35

think he, I haven't given him the

30:37

opportunity. Okay, because if you've ever been

30:40

with an actress before? No. Because my

30:42

husband struggles with that piece of it.

30:44

I think he might, like, I'm talking

30:47

for you, but, yeah. And you know

30:49

what, if he didn't have a problem

30:51

with it? I would have a problem

30:54

with the fact that he would have

30:56

a problem. I was just going to

30:58

say, and I love the fact that

31:01

he is, like, my husband's like, you're

31:03

mine, and you're my girl, and I

31:05

don't want you around, like that. If

31:08

he said, by, honey, knowing that you're

31:10

going off to make out with some

31:12

guy? Whatever, didn't care. I'm like, you

31:15

don't care? Like, not even a piece

31:17

of you, like, I mean, to see.

31:19

Like to watch the One Tree Hill,

31:22

right? Did you see One Tree Hill

31:24

before she slid into your dams? Not

31:26

at all. No. But I've just finished

31:29

it. Oh, you just, well, okay. Alan's

31:31

got to get a talking to it

31:33

because he still will not watch. I

31:36

mean, I haven't either, but like, you

31:38

know, but yeah. But I see what

31:40

you're saying. But it's different to see.

31:43

It's kind of like, you know, like

31:45

a relationship. right right yeah I would

31:47

recommend not going to a set when

31:50

she does have to have a kissing

31:52

scene because it's just not comfortable for

31:54

anyone yeah yeah I mean in that

31:57

part I don't know I mean you

31:59

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