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hit that theme music that I sing

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myself. another

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episode of Why Won't You Date

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Me a Podcast or Me, Nicole

1:51

Byer, was trying to figure out

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why I was so single even

1:55

though you could come on my

1:57

nightstand and say that's a sleep.

1:59

I'm so excited that he's here

2:01

today. Is a legendary actor, comedian,

2:03

singer, and improviser. And you know

2:05

him from whose line is it

2:07

anyway? Let's make a deal. End

2:09

the Wayne Brady show. He is

2:11

the host of a brand new

2:14

podcast called What If. Out now

2:16

on head gum. I'm so excited

2:18

that he's here today. It's Wayne.

2:27

Man, I hope those sound effects

2:29

translated at home. They did. And

2:31

people listening, they got so excited. Wayne,

2:34

I'm sure you've been asked this one

2:36

thousand times, but I don't know the

2:38

answer and I'm gonna ask again. Does

2:40

Wayne Brady have to choke a bitch?

2:42

Has that haunted your life? You know,

2:44

for a time, for a few years,

2:46

it was all the time. And it's

2:49

a double-edged sword like anything, right? That

2:51

you... how cool to be to have

2:53

something tied to you. But then again,

2:55

you're like, sometimes you're like, we can

2:57

stop that now. We can stop, I

3:00

just want to get my, I just

3:02

want to pee and go. Yeah, I just

3:04

want to pee and go. Yeah, I

3:06

just want to pee and go. And

3:08

yeah, and if you are going to

3:10

quote something, which I'm glad that's the

3:12

only thing that I've really had tied

3:14

to be where someone has a catch

3:16

phrase. Say it right. Say it right.

3:18

Is Wayne Brady have to strangle somebody?

3:21

I was like, well, now you just

3:23

made it more violent than the, than

3:25

the fun time it was. Right. Does

3:28

Wayne Brady got to kill a nice

3:30

woman at night trying to jog? Yeah,

3:32

she was like, I don't want to

3:34

do that. She was just trying to

3:36

enjoy her little jog and be fit.

3:38

Don't turn means a murderer. So, so

3:40

yes. But, but how, how cool to, to,

3:43

to be tied to something that, that

3:45

sketches in the, um, The TV and

3:48

radio museum Like

3:50

the library at Congress

3:52

as one of the the

3:54

the the the best TV

3:57

moments. I mean it is

3:59

in history That's ridiculous.

4:01

It's very funny. Yeah,

4:03

yeah, it was very funny.

4:05

So Wayne, I do want to ask,

4:08

are you single? Are you married?

4:10

Are you dating? I'm going to

4:12

be coy. I'm single. And I

4:15

know that you're not on the

4:17

apps yet. I'm not on the

4:19

apps yet. Do you wish to get

4:21

on them? I'm playing with it.

4:23

I'm playing with it. I

4:25

think I have this fantasy

4:27

of where... I go on the apps,

4:30

but I'm too lazy to make

4:32

the profile. First off, let's start

4:34

there. I'm a very industrious

4:36

person. My folks are from

4:38

the U.S. Virgin Islands, so

4:40

you know, if you know

4:42

any island people in your

4:44

life, we are an industrious

4:46

people, except when it comes

4:49

to things like social media

4:51

or paperwork. I can't be

4:53

bothered. So for me to actually

4:56

on a app, put down... I can't...

4:58

I'm imagining the work that it

5:00

would take. Now, I've never seen

5:02

it, so maybe it's not

5:04

as much work as I

5:06

think. It isn't that much

5:08

work. It's just you answer

5:10

some prompts on some apps,

5:12

some apps. It's just like,

5:14

about me. And you're like,

5:16

I like to do X, Y, and

5:19

Z. And then you just like get,

5:21

and then you upload pictures

5:24

and then you get to swiping.

5:26

Yes. Which is the, I guess

5:28

it's the industry one, the like, I

5:30

did a thing one time one, but

5:32

it did, I don't think you'll get

5:34

wait listed. I was wait listed for,

5:36

I think it was two years, Mars,

5:38

I don't remember how long it was.

5:40

I think so, yeah. It was like

5:42

two years, but I don't think you'll

5:44

get wait listed. I think, you know,

5:46

I think that someone, not me, but

5:49

someone from my. my camp as we

5:51

reached out and started the process and

5:53

I believe maybe I've got access I

5:56

could be completely wrong but I'm gonna

5:58

follow up and see. Okay. And here's

6:00

the thing, I kind of feel, if

6:03

I wanted to date an

6:05

actor, again, because I've dated

6:07

actors and peers, folks that

6:09

I've done stuff with, and

6:11

I've dated people who aren't.

6:13

And maybe you've discovered

6:15

this in your life. The Catch-22

6:17

is, you date someone who

6:19

knows what you do because, oh,

6:21

they get me. But then, there

6:24

are inherent problems. And then you

6:26

date someone who isn't. And then

6:28

either they don't get it, or the

6:31

thing that I've run into in

6:33

the past is, because you have

6:35

a level of notoriety or name

6:38

recognition, that person comes built

6:40

in with assumptions of what it

6:43

is that you do. And my

6:45

thing has been meeting someone

6:47

who it's been cool until

6:49

they do the thing of, oh. You're

6:52

on TV? And you're

6:54

like, oh wow, she

6:56

doesn't have any preconceived

6:58

notions in it. And then

7:00

later like, I was playing. I

7:02

love all your shit. And I

7:04

like when do something to make

7:06

me laugh. I go, oh. And

7:08

I've actually had that

7:11

conversation. And then I've

7:13

also been told, you know,

7:15

you're not as much fun as

7:17

you are on TV. I go. No,

7:20

because that's my job.

7:22

Well, your job is to make

7:24

me happy. I'm like, oh, well,

7:26

then I quit. Oh, I resign.

7:28

I put in my jolics,

7:30

but I'm leaving today. Yep.

7:33

Oh, that's tough. I've never,

7:35

I don't think I've had

7:37

anyone say that I was less

7:39

fun than I was. I've had

7:42

people be like, oh. You there doesn't

7:44

seem to be a distinction

7:46

Because I'll do dumb shit

7:48

like put my dog in

7:51

my pants and be like

7:53

look it's a new baby morn

7:55

And they're like okay,

7:58

sometimes they're like You're

8:00

weirder than I thought you were

8:03

gonna be. I love that. Yeah,

8:05

see, but your weird is endearing

8:07

weird. And so I think

8:09

that that would be wonderful.

8:11

I think it's a shock.

8:14

And I get it. I

8:16

completely own up to the

8:18

fact that I am two

8:20

completely different people off camera.

8:22

Because I just know that

8:24

about myself. I am waning.

8:27

But then off camera. I'm

8:29

pretty... I'm not gonna say I...

8:32

I'm... I hide in the... in the... in

8:34

the corner and... and don't

8:36

turn on the light! You're just

8:38

in the dark, being the

8:41

guy away. Leave me alone!

8:43

Then my precious! But I do

8:45

like quiet. I do... And that's,

8:47

you know, and that's just

8:50

my own thing, the way that I've

8:52

always been since I was

8:55

a kid. For me, comedy

8:57

and acting... and being extroverted in

8:59

that way, even music. That was my

9:01

outlet of being able to express myself

9:04

or to get that little thing. And

9:06

then I get to be Wayne over

9:08

here, which is why I always wanted

9:10

to play characters. So that's why it's

9:13

weird when you become known for, oh,

9:15

that's Wayne Brady from the thing. And

9:17

Wayne Brady's a character too. So when

9:19

I meet someone and you try to date,

9:22

I kind of have to put the

9:24

Wayne Brady character on to even meet

9:26

them and to... interact, and then later

9:28

I'm like, ugh, fuck this. Here comes

9:30

the mask. And I was like, I'm

9:32

gonna sit and read my book now.

9:34

That does seem exhausting, and I do get

9:36

it, and I was once dating this guy.

9:39

This is a while ago. And I like

9:41

come home from, I was working a job,

9:43

we were shooting something, and I came home

9:45

and he was like, how was your day?

9:48

And I was telling him and I was

9:50

like, I'm sorry, this is like not interesting.

9:52

And he's like, you're not here to entertain

9:54

me. And I was like, oh. And then

9:56

that just like really kind of flipped

9:59

a little switch. to you. Yes. And

10:01

I was like, it was until

10:03

it wasn't. It got bad and

10:05

I stayed. Oh, no. You kept

10:07

riding the trolley. I said, let's

10:09

see where the train's gonna

10:11

crash. And then much like

10:13

in the fugitive, I jumped

10:16

out. Not even that's that's

10:18

very telling. When somebody's on

10:20

the shit, you're like. This

10:22

is going to crash. Not

10:24

this is bad. No, I've seen

10:26

relationships where I've dated multiple people

10:28

where I was like, oh, this person

10:31

hates me. Or doesn't like my little

10:33

quirks. I'm a late person. I'm always

10:35

late and I've dated people who are like,

10:37

who just like say snide things when I'd

10:39

show up like 10 minutes late. Oh, well,

10:41

you're here. Yeah, yeah. I am here. And

10:44

they're like, well, I waited. I waited. I

10:46

waited a long time. And I'm like, you

10:48

only waited 10 minutes. I'm sorry. I also

10:50

told you I was running late. So like,

10:52

it's one of those things were like, I am.

10:54

See we have like the opposite thing.

10:56

I'm a lot and I come on

10:58

strong I wear my heart on my

11:01

sleeve. I'll tell you all of my

11:03

feelings And a lot of people I've

11:05

dated are like I don't want that

11:07

I don't I don't want someone who

11:09

feels as much as you who is

11:12

as loud as you I just don't

11:14

want it. See that that's the

11:16

weird thing about dating, right?

11:18

And I also guess it depends

11:20

on which section of your life

11:23

you're in the 20s 30s 40s and on

11:25

like how all that works out because

11:27

when I hear you say that you were

11:29

your heart heart on your sleeve and you

11:31

even just in knowing you the couple

11:33

times that we've met I feel that

11:35

if you were the person that I'm that I

11:38

know what I'm getting if I so

11:40

and maybe you might be different maybe

11:42

you then shut off and you're quiet

11:44

at home but if you're like this

11:46

all the time I've met that person. So

11:48

why should I be surprised that you're

11:50

that person? So two months in, why

11:52

am I yelling at you? I don't

11:55

understand when people don't accept

11:57

you. I don't get it either, but I think

11:59

it might... to do with like, I

12:01

think when people are with

12:03

you, they're like, why aren't

12:05

you Wayne Brady all the

12:08

time? Why? And then when

12:10

people are with me, they're

12:12

like, why aren't, why don't

12:14

you turn off sometimes? Like,

12:16

why aren't you, why don't I

12:19

get to see the real Nicole

12:21

where I'm like, this is

12:23

the real Nicole? They should

12:25

listen to you that, that if

12:27

you tell, tell somebody. Hey, this

12:29

is me. That person should

12:32

get the memo. Yes, they should.

12:34

I once said to my boyfriend,

12:36

I was like, I'm really anxious

12:38

in relationships. And he looked at

12:41

me and he said, yes, I

12:43

know. And I was like, oh,

12:45

I thought I was being a

12:47

little mysterious and I simply wasn't.

12:49

Now that's the person that

12:52

you're with now? Yeah. And how

12:54

long have you dated? It's been

12:56

a minute. It's been over

12:58

six months. And yeah, it's

13:00

going well and he's

13:02

one of those people

13:05

who It's he accepts me

13:07

for me like once we

13:10

were in the car and I

13:12

had just gotten I least another

13:14

Jeep and we were driving and

13:16

I was like, oh, I just

13:18

can't listen to serious XM because

13:20

I'll get used to it. And

13:22

then I'll be mad when my

13:24

free package goes away. And that's

13:27

how they rope you in. I

13:29

was just driving along. And then

13:31

he goes, I like when you

13:33

say things like that. It's nice to

13:35

know how your brain works. That makes

13:37

me so happy to hear that you

13:39

would have that because we all, we

13:42

all deserve that. Yes. that thing that

13:44

like somebody that gets what it is

13:46

versus oh I really wish you

13:48

wouldn't say that because I've been

13:51

that guy in a relationship that

13:53

not like in that way of trying

13:55

to shit on somebody yeah but I

13:57

know that I've been in a relationship

14:00

with somebody where at some

14:02

point I didn't like what was

14:04

coming across? Yes. And I had

14:06

to be honest because I didn't

14:08

like me not liking them if

14:10

that makes sense. Because you should

14:12

be free. You should be free

14:14

to be you. You don't need

14:16

me or anybody policing you because

14:19

I don't want that. Yeah. And

14:21

I don't think there's anything

14:23

wrong with saying to your

14:25

partner, hey, please don't scream in

14:27

my ear. Scream all you want, just

14:29

turn your mouth that way or whatever. Because

14:32

sometimes I do scream right in his

14:34

ear and he'll be like, hey, I'm like,

14:36

sorry, yes, I scream that way now.

14:38

But there's a difference between him

14:40

disliking you screaming in his ear

14:42

and you screaming in general. Yes.

14:45

That if he was just like, whether

14:47

it's in my ear or whether it's

14:49

over there, would you please stop? Yes.

14:51

That's a problem, because that

14:53

means you fundamentally don't like

14:55

me as a person. In dating, we

14:57

tend to just be like, whether the

14:59

person's like famous or whatever, it's like,

15:01

I guess I'll just try to change

15:04

them so they become this person that

15:06

I want. And that's not okay. No.

15:08

I've tried, I've had people try to

15:10

change me, I've tried to change people,

15:12

just by being like, hey, I looked

15:14

this up, why don't you do that?

15:16

You were talking about it, I did

15:19

the work for you, you know, here

15:21

you could try this like. You want

15:23

to go to the gym? I found

15:25

a gym that fits your criteria. It's

15:27

in walking, and it's like nobody wants

15:29

that. Like they want to do things

15:31

on their own. They just want to be

15:34

in a partnership. Say they want something like

15:36

that, but at the end of the day, no.

15:38

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my daughter Myle, who's 22,

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and she's amazing, beautifully

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talented writer, singer,

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two-year-old named Val. You

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What's that like having a 20?

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You said 22? A 22-year-old.

18:43

And then a two-year-old.

18:45

That's wild. It is. It is.

18:48

It is a different energy. I'm

18:50

definitely a different

18:52

person at my age now than

18:55

I was at 30 when when

18:57

Miley was born. So chasing

18:59

around after a two-year-old, you

19:01

know, I'm I can keep up,

19:03

but I don't want to. You

19:05

get over there that you'll

19:07

come back eventually. It's

19:10

like, oh look, daddy's chasing

19:12

you, run, run, run, run, run,

19:14

run, run away, I'm going to

19:17

arrest my eyes. Oh lord.

19:19

Daddy's resting now. It's interesting.

19:22

It's interesting, but I love

19:24

being a father. So even in

19:27

dating, it's the... Even in

19:29

dating now, I'm not... Because

19:31

my criteria has changed.

19:33

What is your criteria?

19:35

I don't even know exactly anymore.

19:37

That's even the thing. And

19:40

I don't even really know

19:42

if I want to date?

19:44

Okay. I kind of feel

19:46

that... Maybe I need to be open

19:48

to it. I am single. And then

19:50

you end up having the talks with

19:52

yourself. We're like, oh, I'm getting older

19:54

and I don't know if I'm anybody

19:56

wants me and I'll just sit here

19:58

in my rocking chair. So I think

20:00

my criteria now would be somebody who,

20:03

like we way we're talking, somebody who

20:05

accepts my box in my box of

20:07

shorts. I like being, so I don't

20:09

know. I'm trying to be open to

20:11

it because I'm trying to be more

20:14

open to life and love and you

20:16

know, all that good stuff. So I

20:18

think my criteria now would be somebody

20:20

who, like we way we're talking, somebody

20:23

who accepts my life. They'd have to

20:25

be open to knowing that. My schedule

20:27

is what it is. I happen to be

20:29

very lucky that I'm very busy. They

20:31

have to be open to the fact

20:33

that when I'm not busy, I need time

20:36

for myself. They have to be

20:38

open that I have a very,

20:40

very tightly knit family that they

20:42

can see on my show that's

20:44

on Hulu called Wayne Brady the

20:46

family remix. The reality show about

20:48

my family. My ex-wife Mandy is

20:51

my best friend. Her partner Jason

20:53

is like my brother. They've got

20:55

a kid named Sunny. How did that,

20:57

was it a natural evolution from being

20:59

romantic partners to then being like,

21:01

you were my best friend? And

21:03

was it an amicle breakup? Was

21:05

it the two of you being

21:08

like, yes, just isn't working? Kind

21:10

of the whole thing. We met and

21:12

we were always, we were fast friends.

21:14

And we moved out to LA together.

21:16

We had a goal. So when you

21:18

meet someone and the two of you

21:21

just vibe on the creative thing of,

21:23

we're gonna move to LA to do

21:25

this together. when we moved out she

21:27

was a she wanted to dance and

21:30

she became a professional dancer and model

21:32

and I wanted to act and I

21:34

was auditioning and acting and singing dancing

21:37

the whole nine and so we came

21:39

out as a unified front and

21:41

then that became more romantic and

21:43

we felt love and and then

21:46

then we reached a point where after

21:48

we had our child we were not

21:50

meant to be together and talk

21:52

about the train. I never

21:54

pictured being on

21:57

a train that was

21:59

going to... go off the bridges

22:01

and explode. And I didn't know how

22:03

to get off that train because

22:05

I had it drilled into my

22:07

head. If you get married, and this

22:09

is it, and especially around the

22:11

time that I started to take

22:13

off a little bit, everyone's like,

22:16

oh, Wayne's got a perfect

22:18

relationship. And I didn't want

22:20

to fail. I didn't want

22:22

to fail. And I think we

22:24

get trapped in relationships, or we

22:26

may trap other people sometimes. If

22:29

I let you go, then I failed.

22:31

Then I failed. Yeah, I'm

22:33

bad and all the things.

22:35

This is coming from years

22:37

of therapy. All of those

22:39

things that you may hear as

22:41

a child or that you take

22:44

in, I didn't want to

22:46

fail. So if I would have

22:48

actually used better sense

22:50

and been more empathic

22:53

and loving, I probably

22:55

should have tried to... get

22:57

a divorce earlier rather than

22:59

write it out stick it out with

23:02

me I'm in and make your

23:04

life miserable and make me

23:06

miserable so I make your life

23:08

more miserable and we got

23:10

a kid and so after we

23:13

sorted that out there was

23:15

always love and then we said

23:17

no matter what we're going to

23:19

be family because we're gonna

23:21

do this As opposed

23:24

to some people say, let's be

23:26

friends or let's take this out

23:28

for the child. We said, we're

23:31

going to do this because we

23:33

need to keep our relationship and

23:35

she will prosper if we

23:37

are on the same page.

23:39

And shout out to Mandy, she

23:41

is the reason that we stayed

23:44

friends. She did a lot of

23:46

the grunt work and put up

23:48

with me and a lot of...

23:50

me needing a lot of therapy

23:52

and to talk things out and

23:54

to try to develop and

23:57

really mature and grow up and

23:59

and I do a lot of the

24:01

parenting work that I didn't have as

24:03

a kid. I needed to parent myself

24:05

and change the way that I did things.

24:07

And it paid off. We are still a team. I

24:09

love that. I think that's really

24:11

great because I feel like sometimes

24:13

people end relationships and they're like,

24:15

I fucking hate that person. It's

24:17

like, but there was love there

24:20

at one point. And especially if

24:22

you have to co-parent, but like...

24:24

Just in general, I never want

24:26

to break up with somebody and

24:28

then be like, I wish them

24:30

ill, well, like I always want

24:32

to be like, I loved you,

24:34

I wish you the best, but

24:36

like this didn't work out. So

24:38

I like to hear that, like, you

24:41

know, that worked out for you

24:43

guys. So you were telling

24:45

me before we started recording

24:48

that you started musical theater

24:50

to get the chicks. When

24:52

did you start musical

24:55

theater and you had a stutter

24:57

and then on stage it

24:59

went away? Yeah, yeah, I and this

25:02

is where that other Wayne

25:04

that's off stage. I've always

25:06

been an introverted

25:08

little kid. I was always

25:10

very shy and leery of

25:13

things and didn't want to

25:15

engage. I knew that I

25:17

was very different or I felt

25:19

that I was very different from a lot

25:21

of the kids in my neighborhood and the

25:24

things that I wanted or I liked and

25:26

and my folks like I said were from

25:28

the Virgin Islands and raised me so they

25:31

had very strong accents so I had this

25:33

accent when I was a kid and I

25:35

think because of anxiety I had a really

25:37

bad stutter so that made me not

25:39

want to communicate even more. So yeah

25:41

when when you open your mouth and

25:44

you try to say something and it gets

25:46

laughed at and you try to do

25:48

something you get laughed at or you

25:50

have to fight and I was in

25:52

constant fights all the time because in

25:54

my household I couldn't it's like

25:56

when you you beat her ass if she

25:58

hit you so I to go back outside

26:01

and fight if this kid was told

26:03

to beat her ass. I was told to fight

26:05

you. I'm not going to. So always

26:07

fighting. And just so I always had

26:09

all this. Like tension I always had

26:11

that so it wasn't until and I

26:14

knew that I could sing and dance

26:16

and act because I would do it in

26:18

my room and I had this tape

26:20

recorder that my dad got me and

26:22

I would read books I read everything

26:24

and I would do all the voices

26:27

so I'd record myself doing voices singing

26:29

songs and but I kept it

26:31

to myself until I would also do

26:33

that right when I played it I'd

26:35

be like so I can't sing like

26:37

I would sing And I'd be like,

26:39

I'm killing it and then listen

26:42

back and be like, well, that's

26:44

not, that's not me. You

26:46

had early discernment. Truly. You're

26:49

like, who know? Isn't that

26:51

good? Sorry, so you're, you knew

26:53

you could say, and you could

26:55

damn. But I kept it to

26:57

myself for a long time, and

27:00

it wasn't until I was like

27:02

16, and there was, and I

27:04

had to take, take a speech and

27:06

debate. to fulfill one of the

27:08

art requirements, and I was in ROTC. And

27:11

even being in ROTC was cool for me

27:13

because, A, it helped me have something in

27:15

common with my dad, because my dad was

27:17

in the army, and he was like the

27:19

epitome of GIGO. And I wanted to try

27:22

to fit in with him, and in my

27:24

mind, it wasn't a uniform. It's a costume.

27:26

I'm on stage, and I love the

27:28

marching. I used to love it. This

27:30

sounds so funny so funny. I was

27:32

marching, like, left, left, right, left. I

27:34

was like, oh shit, look at me

27:36

march, look at me march. My hands

27:39

are swinging. My hands are swinging. So

27:41

funny. There, that's exactly how I would

27:43

be if I had to wear like

27:45

army fatigues. I'd be like, yes. You

27:47

can't see me. You are playing a

27:49

role. I used to sing in my

27:51

head like the soundtrack is where March.

27:54

Marching, marching. So I loved that.

27:56

And but then I really wanted to

27:58

be in to be in theater. class

28:00

and my life changed it was like

28:02

one of those after school special moments

28:04

I was like I'm in the theater

28:06

class and then I met this girl

28:08

Sandy who they were having auditions for

28:10

Oklahoma and I thought that Sandy was

28:13

so nice and so pretty and that

28:15

it up and but she was the

28:17

star of the course and she sang I

28:19

said oh I've got to get in that show

28:21

and and I was asked do you do you

28:23

sing I'd never sung a lick in front of

28:25

anybody and went yes because my

28:28

grandmother had all these records and

28:30

she used to play Westside Story.

28:33

So I sang Maria and I

28:35

got one of the leads in

28:37

Oklahoma. And I did end up

28:39

being Sandy's boyfriend, but the

28:42

best part of the thing was I

28:44

went, oh, I guess I can do this. I

28:46

love when people stumble into a passion.

28:48

It's so fun. Also very billy elit

28:50

of you to just like be in

28:53

your room dancing and singing. I got

28:55

into this like Instagram hole where I

28:57

was watching this woman. She's wearing LaDuka

28:59

shoes. It's a damn shit. Yes, of

29:01

course. I know LaDuka. Yeah. And she

29:03

was like, she was talking about her like

29:06

limited edition LaDuka's. And then I was

29:08

like, well, let me look at the

29:10

rest of her page. And then she

29:12

does like. I guess she calls it

29:14

Broadway jazz dancing, and she's like, it's

29:16

a dying art form, and I was

29:18

like, it is. And I was like,

29:20

how do we get this to the masses?

29:22

How do we get people to put

29:24

on La Dukas and do Fosse? She's

29:26

like, yes. I mean, if I had

29:29

any sort of rhythm, I would take

29:31

a Broadway jazz class. I. Love musical

29:33

theater. I cannot sing I cannot dance,

29:36

but I can be an onry old

29:38

lady who's like hey, what's up with

29:40

those kids today? Which is what

29:42

I did in that by Bernie.

29:44

That's the other musical that I

29:47

was in high school. Oh really?

29:49

Were you Conrad Bertie? No, it's

29:51

Albert Peterson. Oh, okay. Who were

29:53

you? I was just in the course.

29:55

You're one of the parents. What's

29:57

the matter with kids today. I,

30:00

I, okay, so there is a

30:02

tape that is in my

30:04

house of me and God

30:06

spell where I sing. I

30:09

was saying turn back, oh

30:11

man, and I'm 17 years

30:13

old. I have a red

30:15

feather, have I talked about

30:17

this? I have a red

30:19

feather boa. I sat on

30:22

somebody's dad's lap and leaned

30:24

back and saying, turn back,

30:26

oh man, for swear I

30:28

foolish. And then was like

30:30

shaking my fucking little

30:33

titties. On this dad.

30:35

And people loved it. And

30:37

a star is born, ladies and gentlemen.

30:40

And I never sing publicly again. Well,

30:42

you went out on top. That's how you have

30:44

to look at it. You went out on top. God,

30:46

I have such a special place in my

30:48

heart for God. Have you ever been in

30:50

Godspell? No, I've seen it a couple times. Day

30:52

by day. In fact, the last time that I

30:55

saw God spell, that cast was amazing. It was

30:57

the Broadway cast where, um. I'm going

30:59

to butcher her name so instead I'll

31:01

say the show that she's from and

31:03

you know who I'm talking about. Orange

31:06

is the new black. Yes. Crazy eyes.

31:08

Yes, a du, a dubo? A dubo? A

31:10

dubo? I don't, I'm not sure about her

31:12

last name. Her. Yes. That's where that

31:14

was that I saw her in the

31:16

cast and my buddy Telly who I

31:19

ended up doing rent with at the

31:21

Hollywood Bowl who played Angel and

31:23

a bunch of other stars but she

31:25

was in rent. Live in the hell.

31:27

I tried learning that song.

31:29

I love that song. I

31:31

tried so hard to learn

31:34

that song. I love it.

31:36

It's so good. So you're

31:38

like the reprise or

31:40

you're like the first one?

31:43

Oh, the reprise. Come on.

31:45

It is so bone chilling.

31:48

And every time I've ever

31:50

seen it live, I weep

31:52

openly weep. Oh. It's great. It's the

31:54

thing and see even the way that when

31:56

you talk about musical theater you

31:59

watching something that's why

32:01

that spark which is why

32:03

I think I told told you once

32:05

that I have I feel like

32:07

I have no game. So I

32:10

would just let my

32:12

talent be my game. So

32:14

that's why it was easier

32:16

for me to meet somebody

32:18

if I was in a

32:20

show. Yes. So I didn't have

32:22

to do a lot of the

32:24

socially awkward work. The

32:27

show does the heavy. I

32:29

like video games. Have you played

32:32

video? Wait, what's your favorite

32:34

video game? Right now, on

32:36

my Oculus, I'm in VR,

32:38

did Mars just gas? Did

32:40

Mars just gas? Did I hear

32:42

a gasp of the octopus?

32:44

She does beat saber. I love

32:46

beat saber. I love beat saber.

32:48

Beat saber. It's great. We should

32:51

play beat saber together. I'd

32:53

love to bring into the

32:55

studio sometime. That's because

32:57

you can play with your

32:59

friends online. I'm not a video

33:02

game connoisseur. Oh my gosh. I've

33:04

only played. Aladdin, Sonic,

33:06

and Donkey Kong. Oh, you,

33:08

those are the old school game.

33:10

When I was a kid, I

33:13

would play. See, I like playing

33:15

the things now, like, I like

33:17

VR, or I'm playing Call of

33:19

Duty, Black, Black Op, Sick, the

33:21

zombie mode, I play Fort, Fortnite,

33:24

but I've stopped playing some of

33:26

those multiplayer games because I realize

33:28

that at my age, A, I

33:30

don't need to be angry with

33:32

some... Little kid in Iowa

33:34

who decides to break out the

33:36

n-word that's wild to me I

33:39

went on a kill kill streak

33:41

it's wild but people like that's

33:43

where I'm gonna say it on

33:45

a video game where I'll have a

33:48

nice time and that's the fact

33:50

that that's the word that goes

33:52

boop it's like slot it's like

33:54

why did you have that primed

33:56

I don't it's it's it's it's

33:59

interesting America's a really

34:02

interesting place. And

34:04

sometimes the excuses, well,

34:07

I didn't even know that

34:09

that person was black. I

34:11

just said, it's like, why are

34:13

you just saying it? Why is

34:15

it in the chamber? Why is

34:17

it in the chamber? It's

34:20

because of internalized

34:22

racism that our

34:24

country refuses to acknowledge.

34:26

And oh, we're back. What

34:29

is one of your favorite

34:31

musical theater parts that you've

34:33

gotten to play? Without a doubt,

34:35

Lola in Kinky Boots. Kinky

34:37

Boots is such a fun, vibrant show.

34:40

It is, did you do your

34:42

own makeup? Like, do you? Oh no,

34:44

no, no. You did it on Broadway,

34:46

right? And, and here. But, but I

34:48

replaced, I was the second one I replaced

34:51

Billy Porter. So I got to,

34:53

like, it was still a fresh

34:55

roll. Now I could do my own

34:57

makeup ish. Yeah, but they

34:59

hire amazing Make-up artists

35:02

to be able to achieve

35:04

a very specific look and

35:06

Yeah, and what's weird is

35:08

like Doing kinky boots

35:10

talk about letting the

35:12

talent do the work. Yeah, they

35:15

were oh my god even doing

35:17

that show though. I'm you know,

35:19

I'm six foot in heels. I'm

35:21

six four I was singing and

35:23

dancing on stage and a British

35:25

accent, doing all this stuff. So

35:27

many DMs in my inbox, women

35:30

just like, I just saw you

35:32

on stage as Lola. Mmm, we'll

35:34

get you out of them tight.

35:37

Take off that wig and we

35:39

snatch that wig off bitch. We

35:41

get that red dress off. It's

35:43

like, oh no! That was... That's

35:46

so funny. But also very

35:48

indicative of like a woman

35:50

being like... This man makes me feel

35:52

so safe. I don't care what the fuck

35:55

he's wearing. I'm gonna rip it off. Right?

35:57

Oh, I'm gonna have my way with that

35:59

safe man. What was it like learning

36:01

how to dance in heels? It was

36:03

amazing. It gave me so much

36:06

respect, which I already had respect

36:08

for female performers and for

36:10

women at large in terms

36:12

of when, like you were saying, you

36:14

know, when you dated someone, you're

36:17

late. Look, the amount of work

36:19

that women feel sometimes they have

36:21

to put in. for the male gaze

36:23

and to be ready for us to

36:25

go out so on a cute little

36:27

date and you would have put on

36:29

your heels. Oh I've got these great

36:32

little little luiva tones and the red

36:34

bodice. Good for you. Be a little

36:36

late sometimes. Learning to walk, not even

36:38

dance. Learning to walk and even the

36:40

baby heals. It's a different set

36:42

of muscles. My from having to

36:44

arch. Because I've got a flat

36:46

foot, thanks dad. My arch was all

36:49

messed up, my heels were always engaged,

36:51

my thighs, my IT bands were going,

36:53

what the fuck are you doing? Everything,

36:55

it hurt, in fact, it hurt so

36:57

much. After the first day of rehearsal,

37:00

I flew to New York, I knew

37:02

all the music, and I'm rehearsing. And

37:04

then they go, oh, you're such a

37:06

quick study, because they taught me the

37:08

first number, land of Lola, I learned

37:11

of dance, killing it. Great, let's,

37:13

Let's put on the

37:15

rehearsal heels and try it.

37:17

Okay, let's try. We rehearsed

37:20

for four hours. Oh my

37:22

God. I went back to

37:24

my hotel room, took my

37:26

feet off, and my feet

37:28

were like this. Just pulsing.

37:30

You could see it. And

37:33

I picked up the phone. And

37:35

I called my agent. I

37:37

said, hey Kevin. I

37:39

don't think I can do this. And it really

37:41

hurts me. Because I love the show, but I

37:43

think I have to go home. I think not

37:45

only can I not do the show, I have to

37:48

leave the state. I think I have to leave the

37:50

state. I have to leave the state. I have

37:52

to get on a plane to go back

37:54

to my place of residence. And I've never

37:56

done that. But I honestly couldn't see past

37:58

the pain of this moment. I was like,

38:00

how, you tell me how I'm gonna

38:03

do this. And luckily, ice and

38:05

I stuck it through, but kudos

38:07

to women, kudos to Beyonce. I

38:10

mean, it's a, no, no, no,

38:12

no, no, no, no, it's, it's,

38:14

it's wild. Wild. Wild whenever I

38:17

see shit like that. I wish,

38:19

I wish I had that. But

38:21

again, I don't have the

38:24

rhythm. But it's nuts, because

38:26

in those heels, and I've

38:28

always. in those heels and

38:30

insert and and I'm in

38:32

a dress and wig the whole

38:34

thing but powerful I felt super

38:36

powerful very empowered I think

38:38

it was really cool I

38:40

think men should dawn a wig

38:42

and heels and then just like

38:45

feel pretty well here's the thing

38:47

did you know Nicole that it's

38:49

so funny how the masculinity

38:51

everybody's like guys won't

38:54

even carry wait where's mine

38:56

like guys won't even carry

38:58

You know, like a bag like this,

39:01

they call it a man, you

39:03

know, a mers. A man bag,

39:05

you gotta pull all this man,

39:07

it's a man. This is a,

39:09

this is, yes, it's a

39:11

satchel, but it's, it's a

39:14

purse. Men, men, in the days

39:16

of your, men had purses.

39:18

Yes. There were bags, that's

39:21

just was the literal word

39:23

for it, purses. Yes.

39:25

Men, royalty wore high heels. that

39:27

that lined the streets of Paris

39:30

and London men were the high

39:32

heels because that was a sign

39:34

of I didn't have to walk

39:36

in all the awful in all

39:38

the shit men wore wigs we

39:40

wore things to adorn ourselves at

39:42

some point yeah I don't know

39:44

when the transition happened where

39:46

it was like wild wild west I

39:49

don't know like looking in the 80s

39:51

men in short shorts and crop tops

39:53

and I'm like why did that

39:55

leave George Michael and all

39:58

these dudes dancing. Why? I

40:00

wish we allowed men or gave

40:02

men the room to experiment with

40:04

style or like also just carrying

40:06

a bag, a purse. You could

40:09

put all your things in it

40:11

and then your pockets are free.

40:13

And then you don't have

40:15

that ugly ass wallet bulge.

40:17

Yes. Yes. That's the thing

40:19

is the conflation of a

40:21

masculinity and and what you wear,

40:24

and how you talk, and you're

40:26

not being able to dress a

40:28

certain way, or if I say

40:30

a certain word, pause, pause, because

40:32

that's, did it, all of that

40:34

is so harmful. And that's why

40:36

sometimes bringing it right back, background

40:38

to dating and everything that I'm

40:40

trying, when you meet people, it's

40:42

sometimes hard to have even

40:45

those first date conversations, because

40:47

people have such weird ideas.

40:49

of masculinity that people will say

40:51

wild things to each other?

40:53

Yes. And that's weird. So now you

40:56

even have to watch out who you talk

40:58

to because you don't know if They'll

41:00

have some wild views on sexuality or

41:02

on life. Or, oh my God, I'm

41:05

so glad because that's so gay. Oh

41:07

no, I can't be your friend. You

41:09

hate the people I like. Oh no.

41:11

There was this tweet that killed me.

41:13

It was just like, fellas, is he

41:16

gay to sit next to your

41:18

friend in a movie theater? But I

41:20

was like, oh! And it was

41:22

like a full earnest tweet. And they're

41:24

like, well, if there's nobody else in

41:26

the theater, you gotta leave a seat

41:28

between you and your friend. I was

41:30

like, what is happening? What has happened?

41:32

The only way that that question has

41:35

any merit is if it is a

41:37

gay movie theater in the late 80s

41:39

in Santa Monica called the Don Quixote.

41:41

Then the answer is yes, it's gay.

41:43

That's pretty gay. Not if it's the

41:45

cinema. No if it's a cinema. I

41:47

also think like sexuality is just so fluid. I

41:49

refuse to label myself. I also, I don't use

41:51

the queer label because I feel like I usually

41:53

talk about dating men. So I'm like, I don't

41:56

want to take up space there. But I'm like,

41:58

I would date a woman. I dated trans. I'd

42:00

take any old person because I

42:02

would never close the door to

42:04

love. And I think it's- Hearts

42:06

not parts. Yes, hearts not parts.

42:08

I've never heard that before. Parts

42:11

not parts. Have you heard that

42:13

before? No, that's great. That's new.

42:15

That's new to us. So many

42:17

of the comments are gonna be

42:19

like, that's not fucking new. And

42:21

I mean, you're the son of

42:23

immigrants. And- Did they ever put

42:26

pressure on you to date? No,

42:28

in fact, in a household like

42:30

mine, which is dangerous, I think

42:32

it's a lot of black households,

42:34

we didn't talk about sex. So

42:36

what you don't talk about, you

42:38

find out about in the streets.

42:40

And you can't trust, if you're

42:43

10, you can't trust the 12-year-old

42:45

to tell you the ins and

42:47

outs. of sex. You should, no,

42:49

that shouldn't happen. So we didn't

42:51

talk about sex, we didn't talk

42:53

about dating. The only thing is

42:55

I remember my, my grandmother, don't

42:58

you bring, don't you bring no

43:00

girl in this house and have

43:02

a baby? That was it. That's

43:04

it. Those little, okay. So I

43:06

can't bring this bitch home and

43:08

I can't put a baby in

43:10

her? Don't even know how. Jokes

43:13

on you, granny? Ha-ha! I'm putting

43:15

in every hole. I mean, yeah,

43:17

I didn't, my mom, she did

43:19

an okay job. But my grandpa

43:21

recently said to me, he was

43:23

like, wow, guess the family name

43:25

dies here. And I was like,

43:28

okay. Okay, you don't have to

43:30

put it like bad. Was it

43:32

said, was it, I'm joking? No,

43:34

no, it was pretty serious. And

43:36

it was like, yeah, he was

43:38

looking at my aunt and my

43:40

uncle and he was like, none

43:43

of y'all are gonna have a

43:45

baby. So the family name dies

43:47

here. And I was like, okay,

43:49

grandpa, you don't have to be

43:51

so upset about it. You could

43:53

just chill out. Also, it's okay.

43:55

If our family name dies. There's

43:57

a bunch of buyers. Barbadoes. They

44:00

can carry it on for us.

44:02

That is hilarious. We don't know

44:04

what they're doing over there. That's

44:06

where your folks are from? That's

44:08

where my dad's side of the

44:10

family is from Barbadoes. Okay. Yes.

44:12

Island people. Love that. See, I

44:15

knew I liked you. I knew

44:17

I liked you. And I went,

44:19

I took my grandpa there a

44:21

couple years ago. And I was

44:23

like, why haven't you brought me

44:25

here? It's so beautiful. And I

44:27

was like, maybe I'll find a

44:30

man here. And then I did

44:32

and I had to come back

44:34

here. Wait, you did find a

44:36

man there? No, no. I had

44:38

to come back to the States

44:40

to find one. Well, that was

44:42

meant. It was meant to be.

44:45

Do you remember your first kiss

44:47

or your first girlfriend? Yes. How

44:49

old were you when you had

44:51

your first kiss? Try to remember

44:53

if it was my, did I

44:55

have a kiss or was it

44:57

the pup? puppy love thing. Oh

44:59

yeah my first kiss I think

45:02

my first kiss was with Sandy

45:04

I think my first kiss was

45:06

with Sandy in in junior year

45:08

love that your first girlfriend is

45:10

Sandy that you met in musical

45:12

theater just because of Greece Sandy

45:14

Sandy was was my first kiss

45:17

whose father was Incredibly racist. Oh

45:19

no! Because yes, yeah, Sandy was

45:21

white. And I had a girlfriend,

45:23

you know, like when you're young,

45:25

you like I'm going with or

45:27

whatnot. So I'd gone with people,

45:29

but I'd never had a kiss.

45:32

So I think I really never

45:34

had a first kiss until high

45:36

school. Yeah, and her dad was

45:38

racist. Did you say things to

45:40

you? Oh. He said many things

45:42

to me. But yeah, like at

45:44

one point, it's cool. And I'm,

45:47

and all this is prefaced by

45:49

saying I'm, I was raised in

45:51

Orlando, Florida. So I was raised

45:53

in Florida. So yeah, let's let

45:55

that be, be what it is.

45:57

Florida. So it's always cool when

45:59

somebody likes when a when a

46:01

when a parent of somebody whether

46:04

they're a friend or whatever is

46:06

like oh great kid come on

46:08

over that but then as soon

46:10

as some you express some interest

46:12

or something happens then then they're

46:14

like not in my house you

46:16

know not you and it's like

46:19

wait I thought you liked me

46:21

you made me dinner you said

46:23

I could stay for dinner what

46:25

you don't like me yeah you

46:27

taught you taught me a lot

46:29

very early about about negotiating people

46:31

in life and race and relationships

46:34

and all that stuff. Which is

46:36

tough, but I feel like black

46:38

people have to learn that much

46:40

earlier than our white counterparts. Absolutely.

46:42

Which it's not even a, I

46:44

don't even think it's a bad

46:46

thing at this point. I think

46:49

knowledge is knowledge. Yes. So learn.

46:51

It's like, oh, that happened. So

46:53

that means that that's an issue.

46:55

So I have to navigate the

46:57

world like this. Bingo, got you.

46:59

Thank you for teaching me. Yeah.

47:01

And it is always interesting to

47:04

me when people are like, oh,

47:06

it's always about race. And I'm

47:08

like, kind of. From a very

47:10

early age, my race has been

47:12

a thing I've known about. Playing

47:14

the race card. Yes, because my

47:16

name is literally Nicole because it's

47:18

a white sounding name on paper.

47:21

My name looks white and that

47:23

was. That was a strategy that

47:25

my parents had, which is unhinged

47:27

if you really think about it.

47:29

But before I was born, my

47:31

race was a thing I had

47:33

to think about or my parents

47:36

thought about. That is a part

47:38

of who we are. And that's

47:40

why it's so funny that when

47:42

those conversations do come up and

47:44

someone says, oh, it's always by,

47:46

why does it have to be

47:48

about race? Why can't we all

47:51

just it? Well, yes. Pauliana. That

47:53

would be amazing if we didn't.

47:55

But on the flip side, I

47:57

think the conversation is also, you

47:59

know what? It's not bad that

48:01

race enters the conversation sometimes because

48:03

race is so wrapped up in

48:06

cultures like. Like, I love being

48:08

black and if black conversations happen,

48:10

we can have a black conversation,

48:12

someone can have a Latin conversation,

48:14

an Asian conversation, the difference is,

48:16

don't hate me because of the

48:18

black conversation or treat me differently

48:20

because of it. That's the thing.

48:23

Or tell me who I can

48:25

and cannot love, which it damn

48:27

sure seems that we're getting pretty

48:29

close to in this freaking time

48:31

machine that we're in right now.

48:33

It is. The way back with

48:35

you, that we've been strapped into.

48:38

Not to like bring politics into

48:40

it, but the whole make America

48:42

great again. Just hear me out.

48:44

How come it's not make America

48:46

better? Like why go back? Why

48:48

not go forward? Why look back?

48:50

Make America great again. Make it

48:53

better. Make it better than it's

48:55

been. Which I know a lot

48:57

of people, we have touched, touched

48:59

on this and said the same

49:01

thing. It's, it's... Maybe I missed

49:03

something, but within my span of

49:05

life, life's been cool and thank

49:08

God, like I always tell, you

49:10

tell my daughter, I said, Miley,

49:12

you know how lucky, because I

49:14

was born in 72, just outside

49:16

of that, we weren't allowed to

49:18

be in the same schools as

49:20

somebody, just outside of that. If

49:22

you, even loving, dating, talking to

49:25

somebody of another race, not that

49:27

it was frowned upon. that shit

49:29

would get you killed just outside

49:31

of that. Yeah, I get that

49:33

my generation we are the luckiest

49:35

that that to be born there

49:37

and to be raised here and

49:40

to reap the benefits of hey

49:42

we're on TV or we can

49:44

be successful or not. But but

49:46

still to answer that question, I

49:48

don't know about great again. I

49:50

think that it was great to

49:52

certain people who who may have

49:55

had certain advantages over other people.

49:57

So yeah, let's make it better

49:59

where There are no advantages where

50:01

we're where we're all doing our

50:03

thing. Yeah, we all start at

50:05

zero, but that doesn't happen like

50:07

I have aunts who are still

50:10

alive who can tell me stories

50:12

about segregated movie theaters where they

50:14

would like spin on the people

50:16

who were allowed to sit in

50:18

like, you know, the orchestra or

50:20

whatever while they were in the

50:22

balcony. And I'm like, that's wild

50:25

to say, make it great again

50:27

when they have memories of that.

50:29

Anyway, off of that, you said

50:31

you grew up in Florida. Yeah.

50:33

And you worked at Universal or

50:35

you worked at Disney? You worked

50:37

at Disney? which I put those

50:39

marching skills into play. My very

50:42

first job at Disney, I was

50:44

a toy soldier in the in

50:46

the sparkling Christmas spectacular. I was

50:48

a marching button and I was

50:50

like, I'm a pop, I'm a

50:52

bough, I'll see all that shit.

50:54

And then I was goofy and

50:57

I was tigger and I did

50:59

that because my whole aim was

51:01

I wanted to be a kid

51:03

of the kingdom, which are the

51:05

singer, singer dancers. Oh, a face.

51:07

Yes, well not a face character,

51:09

actually one of the singer dancers

51:12

called a kid of the kingdom.

51:14

I didn't know if we had

51:16

them out here at Disneyland, but

51:18

they were on the main stage

51:20

and they danced beautifully and did

51:22

all the choreography and they sang

51:24

as like, I want to be

51:27

one of those singers. So I've

51:29

got to get into Disney somehow.

51:31

So I got in being a

51:33

character. And that was my whole

51:35

thing is I was fired. Why

51:37

were you fired? Quick story. I

51:39

auditioned for... One of my dreams

51:41

was to be the lead singer

51:44

in a show called Rap and

51:46

Roll. There was one male singer

51:48

and the rest of them were

51:50

characters. But when I saw it

51:52

was like, that's my show. That's

51:54

my shit. I can do this.

51:56

I audition for it. I got

51:59

it. I was so excited, I

52:01

told everybody I'm leaving the character

52:03

department, I'm gonna train into the

52:05

show, blah blah blah blah. That

52:07

was like on a, let's call

52:09

it a Wednesday. Friday was my

52:11

last shift as a character. But

52:14

Saturday, a buddy of mine named

52:16

Chris. And yeah, I'm going to

52:18

say who he is. I've told

52:20

us Chris Judd. Now if you

52:22

know who Chris Judd is, Chris

52:24

Judd is an amazing choreographer, dancers,

52:26

but some people may know him.

52:29

He is one of the ex-husband

52:31

of Jennifer Lopez. Oh, I know.

52:33

So we were best buddies. Like

52:35

when I worked at Disney for

52:37

two years, Chris Judd was my

52:39

best friend. He still is one

52:41

of the most amazing guys. I

52:43

don't get a chance to talk

52:46

to him, but that was my

52:48

dude. And I don't even, I've

52:50

never even spoken to Chris really

52:52

about this. One day I've got

52:54

to talk to him because I

52:56

have to, so Chris handsome, handsome,

52:58

handsome ass dude. Especially he had

53:01

the time. He had a hair

53:03

and did it. Chris got hired

53:05

as a character as a character,

53:07

but. He was never really feeling

53:09

the character thing. So he got

53:11

called in to do a character

53:13

shift. Wayne, can you do me

53:16

a favor? I really don't want

53:18

to do this character shift, blah

53:20

blah blah. Chris had been dancing

53:22

at this point. He learned to

53:24

dance and big things were going

53:26

to happen for him. He really

53:28

didn't want to go into the

53:31

character thing. I wanted to pick

53:33

up an extra shift with some

53:35

money. I was like, sure, I'll

53:37

go in and do your shift

53:39

for you. What are you doing?

53:41

They've got me scheduled, I'm doing

53:43

Pluto. Oh, well, I don't do

53:46

Pluto, but I'll see if they

53:48

need a goofy hut. Yeah, man,

53:50

I got you. I'll do, do

53:52

this for you. It's the last

53:54

thing that I'm gonna do, because

53:56

on Monday, I start a rehearsal

53:58

for rap and row. This story

54:00

is the equivalent of, if I

54:03

would have been on the police

54:05

force, and I'm going, oh, man,

54:07

I've been a... A police captain

54:09

for 45 years. I'm hanging up

54:11

the shield on Friday. Hey, Sarge,

54:13

you might cover in me on

54:15

Friday? You know myself and Miranda.

54:18

We are scheduled to go to

54:20

Couple St. Lucas. We haven't had

54:22

a vacation together in 25 years.

54:24

All right, young blood. I'll cover

54:26

you just this one time. What

54:28

can happen? And then I get

54:30

shot. Oh no! That's what happened

54:33

to me. You got shot at

54:35

Disney. I show up, I'm goofy.

54:37

No, I'm Tigger. You're Tigger. I'm

54:39

doing, I'm doing my tiggerset, I'll

54:41

never forget it, I'm in front

54:43

of the bank. Hey, shaking kids

54:45

hands, doing the whole thing, blah

54:48

blah blah, the clock is ticking,

54:50

I'm looking upset. Almost finished, last

54:52

show, last shift before I go

54:54

do rap and roll, oh shit.

54:56

A lady comes to the front

54:58

of the line, because that's the

55:00

magic. So this lady, there's a

55:02

line. She puts little Timmy in

55:05

front. I was like, oh, so

55:07

me, I, using the improv skills

55:09

that I have home to Disney,

55:11

I'm communicating to her, huh, it's

55:13

Tigger. She's like, no ticker. You

55:15

was, and I'm like, and I'm

55:17

like, and I'm like, hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. She

55:21

puts Timmy in front and so

55:23

now I'm like shaking the big,

55:25

so pick picture all this movement

55:27

as Tigger. Big old head, just

55:30

like, mm-mm. She's like, take her

55:32

and and she grabs Tigger and

55:34

pulls him a little closer and

55:36

it's like, because people get hands-y

55:39

with characters. She goes, ticker, I

55:41

am. I am very, and now

55:43

I'm going to paraphrase what she

55:45

said, like, Tigger, I think you

55:48

need to see my son, we

55:50

are in a rush, you do

55:52

not know, I am very important

55:54

here. I blah, blah, blah, blah.

55:57

I was like. I

56:00

go to move her and you

56:03

will find and then she just

56:05

goes off on me and says

56:07

some like some shit about you

56:10

will find out you will deal

56:12

with you and so I look

56:14

to whoever you know that that

56:17

they're called character leads the the

56:19

person that that's responsible for handling

56:21

so this lady's yeah and I

56:24

look over like so you got

56:26

to move this person now also

56:28

keep in mind I am I

56:31

am 19? I'm 19 at this

56:33

point? Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm like,

56:35

no, no, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm,

56:38

I'm, I'm 18 turning 19. So

56:40

she's yelling at a kid. An

56:42

adult is yelling at a child.

56:45

Is yelling at a kid. Is

56:47

yelling at a kid. You are

56:49

yelling. Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! You're yelling at Tigger.

56:52

So then... I turned my back

56:54

to, oh, that's the thing that

56:56

really, really got her. She's, blah,

56:59

blah, no, no, no. I turned

57:01

my back to her. Her child

57:03

decides, Tigger's tail is a piece,

57:06

at that time, it was a

57:08

belt, like a military belt, wrapped

57:10

around your midsection, connected to the,

57:13

to the back, and decides to

57:15

pull my tail. I grabbed the

57:17

tail and I turned and I

57:20

feel, uh-huh. So I grabbed the

57:22

tail and I did was not

57:24

intending to hit the child. That

57:27

he pulled the tail back. I

57:29

grabbed the tail so that it

57:31

wouldn't hit someone else and and

57:34

I can't see. Yes, you're right.

57:36

All I can see is this.

57:38

Uh-huh. So all this happened over

57:41

here. When I turned. So I

57:43

grabbed my tail and I turn

57:45

and I feel, uh-uh. But I

57:48

don't know what happened. So I

57:50

turn my back to her. That's

57:52

the part of you. You will

57:55

see. You'll... Yeah, girl, I'm Tigger.

57:57

And what's happening Monday? I'm in

57:59

rap and roll. I finished the

58:02

character set. Wayne, you've been called

58:04

to the character supervisor's office. Uh-huh.

58:06

Why? They must want to commend

58:09

me on how... On how I

58:11

handle that? Amazing, because I am,

58:13

in my mind, I got to

58:16

tell you, I was... One one

58:18

of the best I will wear

58:20

that shit today. I was one

58:23

of the best characters that Disney

58:25

had seen up to that point.

58:27

I was animated I would break

58:30

dance I did that I killed

58:32

it. So I was like oh

58:34

surely are they giving me an

58:37

award? Are they gonna commend me?

58:39

I don't know am I Walt

58:41

Disney? Am I the next one?

58:44

Is this like really won't and

58:46

they're giving me? No commendation for

58:48

me. Turns out she was a

58:51

supervisor, a character supervisor, who she

58:53

brought her son into the park.

58:55

She wanted Tigger to, oh, and

58:57

I did this to her too,

59:00

because she claimed, because when she

59:02

was there, I was like, I

59:04

did this, and at point I

59:07

was like, these people, have been

59:09

waiting in line. No, you have

59:11

to go back. No, sorry. She

59:14

should have whispered to you, I

59:16

am the character supervisor or said

59:18

something to the handler. And even

59:21

if she did, here's the thing,

59:23

and this is, even if she

59:25

would have gone, I, my last

59:28

name is Disney. You need to

59:30

let me in front. No, these

59:32

people are waiting. It's Florida. It

59:35

is freaking 2000 degrees. And did

59:37

they have fans in the little

59:39

costumes or were you just dying?

59:42

I think in the newer models

59:44

in the generation since I've been

59:46

there back in the back in

59:49

the day. No fans. These kids

59:51

are hot. I loved doing that

59:53

job so much. I loved I

59:56

I always had this big ass

59:58

smile on my face and the

1:00:00

kids so I'm being beat be

1:00:03

raided by another supervisor. Do you

1:00:05

know what you just did? Blah

1:00:07

blah blah blah blah. She brought

1:00:10

her son. So now you are

1:00:12

being written up and we're gonna

1:00:14

do an investigation because of your

1:00:17

insubordination. Oh no, wait, I'm sorry.

1:00:19

At first it was like a

1:00:21

parent. Do you know that a

1:00:24

parent came? And they said that

1:00:26

you, you were looking at your

1:00:28

watch. You told them to leave,

1:00:31

you were rude, and then you

1:00:33

turned around and you hit them

1:00:35

with your tail on purpose, and

1:00:38

you were da da da da

1:00:40

da da da da da. And

1:00:42

so we're gonna do an investigation.

1:00:45

It's like, no, that's not what

1:00:47

happened at all. That's not about

1:00:49

it. Then I find out. Because

1:00:52

at first I said, and you

1:00:54

were rude to her. And it

1:00:56

was his birthday, and you could

1:00:59

have handled it differently. And all

1:01:01

I remember, my little teenage ass,

1:01:03

as I'm being told that I

1:01:06

was suspended, was suspended. At that

1:01:08

point, was code for... Now you're

1:01:10

done. You're fired. No, you're fired.

1:01:13

Is I... Uh-huh. Okay. So I've

1:01:15

still got the skinline fur on.

1:01:17

Do I... Do I get... Do

1:01:20

I get to do rap and

1:01:22

roll? That sentence, do I still

1:01:24

get to do rap and roll?

1:01:27

No. No. No. You're suspended. You

1:01:29

don't feel... Chris Judd did it

1:01:31

to you Chris Judd if you

1:01:34

had not just if you hadn't

1:01:36

taken that shift if I hadn't

1:01:38

taken that shift But but it's

1:01:41

a blessing disguise you could still

1:01:43

be there right now. Come on

1:01:45

Not to be rude, not shooting

1:01:48

on anybody here at Disney, but

1:01:50

like you were destined to do

1:01:52

something else. But everybody's destiny is

1:01:55

different. I see, I've got friends

1:01:57

who I grew up with them.

1:01:59

They are still at Disney in

1:02:02

managerial spots now and doing other

1:02:04

things. They love that life. They

1:02:06

have a home in celebration, beautiful

1:02:09

home and they have a life.

1:02:11

That wasn't for you. That wasn't

1:02:13

for me. So everything happened the

1:02:16

way that it was supposed to.

1:02:18

And I learned a lesson. You

1:02:20

know, I learned a valuable lesson

1:02:23

about how, you know, expectations and

1:02:25

all these things. And so, so.

1:02:27

Thanks Chris. You know, and then

1:02:30

because I got fired from that

1:02:32

job, then I ended up getting

1:02:34

hired at Universal Studios doing a

1:02:37

bunch of, I was a ghostbuster

1:02:39

and I did the Beatle Juice

1:02:41

Rock and Rose show and I

1:02:43

was a percussionist and I was

1:02:46

a breakdancer. I did all these

1:02:48

things. I learned all these valuable

1:02:50

skills doing theme park shows in

1:02:53

theater that ended up giving me

1:02:55

an improv mindset and that's how

1:02:57

I got on TV. I love

1:03:00

that. I love a story that

1:03:02

like, like, I mean. It could

1:03:04

have gone a different way where

1:03:07

you could have been like, well,

1:03:09

I guess that's it for me.

1:03:11

I don't perform anymore, blah, blah,

1:03:14

blah, that fucking bitch. But then

1:03:16

it was like, no, there's another

1:03:18

theme park here. I will work

1:03:21

it the fuck out. I'll do

1:03:23

it. If I had to, I

1:03:25

would go and be black Shamoo.

1:03:28

I'd put on a Shamoo after

1:03:30

the Sea World. Wow. Shamoo was

1:03:32

a man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God,

1:03:36

Wayne, I love that. I really do

1:03:38

love that story. I was let go

1:03:41

from Lane Bryant, a fat woman's clothing

1:03:43

store. And it was a huge blessing

1:03:45

in the sky. It's a long story.

1:03:47

But it was a blessing in disguise,

1:03:49

because I was like, it was before

1:03:51

I started doing improv, and I said,

1:03:53

well, I am getting minimum wage, but

1:03:55

I can pay. my bills and I

1:03:58

keep taking other people's shifts and then

1:04:00

they would be like don't come in

1:04:02

tomorrow, Nicole you're going into overtime and

1:04:04

guess what I would go in tomorrow

1:04:06

and get my overtime but I was

1:04:08

like I'm gonna be a manager of

1:04:10

Lane Bryant and not shooting on anyone

1:04:12

who's a manager of Lane Bryant but

1:04:15

I was not destined for that was

1:04:17

not what I was supposed to do

1:04:19

but I had like become like a

1:04:21

little complacent I was like oh yeah

1:04:23

this this this is what I can

1:04:25

do I'm really good at counting out

1:04:27

a register out a register It's so

1:04:29

funny how you end up and and

1:04:31

you're right it isn't shitting on anybody

1:04:34

that does that because but it's your

1:04:36

it's it's it's where you see yourself

1:04:38

or your goals like my bar at

1:04:40

one point in my life the but

1:04:42

if only I could get that rap

1:04:44

and roll thing then that would be

1:04:46

and then you you end up going

1:04:48

well if only I can be the

1:04:51

manager Lane Bryan yes and then once

1:04:53

you pull out a little like maybe

1:04:55

I could do something else and then

1:04:57

the next thing you know you're doing

1:04:59

things that you didn't even dream for

1:05:01

yourself which I love that that's the

1:05:03

part I love it makes you continue

1:05:05

to dream yeah And when I got

1:05:08

fired from Lame Bryant, I had to

1:05:10

pay off my Lame Bryant credit card.

1:05:12

I know I've told this story, but

1:05:14

I paid it off and I wrote

1:05:16

Lame Giant in who like the Peggy

1:05:18

was two and then they sent it

1:05:20

back and they sent it back and

1:05:22

they said so then I sent it

1:05:24

back and then they wrote a letter

1:05:27

saying that's not funny. We can't take

1:05:29

this very funny bit. That makes me

1:05:31

laugh so hard that even the bad.

1:05:33

You knew who they were talking about.

1:05:35

Just take the damn money. And you

1:05:37

have to pay off the lame Brian

1:05:39

Creditco. You mean you bought stuff in

1:05:41

the store? Working retail is a scam

1:05:44

for the employees because they tell you

1:05:46

we want you to wear the clothing.

1:05:48

But you have to buy the clothes.

1:05:50

And they'll give you a discount. But

1:05:52

I was getting paid $7.50 cents. None

1:05:54

of my checks were ever going to

1:05:56

clear for those clothes. and my rent

1:05:58

and my food and shit so then

1:06:01

I opened up a lame brand credit

1:06:03

card with the twenty two That was

1:06:05

never going to pay off with my

1:06:07

minimum wage. It's a scam. That is

1:06:09

a scam. See, that's what Kaniy was

1:06:11

talking about when he said that he

1:06:13

worked at the Gap. That's what he

1:06:15

was talking about. It is. It's a

1:06:17

scam. Well, you've done good. You've done

1:06:20

good for yourself. You've done good, too.

1:06:22

And we've come to the end. Do

1:06:24

you have any advice for single people?

1:06:26

The advice that I could give right

1:06:28

now is I'm going to Going on

1:06:30

these apps, trying to find somebody, finding

1:06:32

solace in somebody else, how the hell

1:06:34

you're going to love somebody else if

1:06:37

you don't love yourself? Can I get

1:06:39

an Amen? Amen. And I'm going to

1:06:41

give you advice, Wayne. I think you

1:06:43

need to be more up front in

1:06:45

your dating. I think second date in,

1:06:47

they should know that you need your

1:06:49

alone time. Second date and they should

1:06:51

know that you are an introvert second

1:06:54

date and they should know that like

1:06:56

you're looking for love Because you're such

1:06:58

a marvelous wonderful person and I think

1:07:00

if you want a partner you deserve

1:07:02

a partner But also if you want

1:07:04

to take some time for yourself. You

1:07:06

also deserve that too. You work so

1:07:08

hard. Thank you ma'am. Thank you. Also

1:07:10

Wayne. I asked all of my guests

1:07:13

this would you date me? Yes Hell

1:07:16

yeah, thank you. Yes, ma'am. The reason

1:07:18

I ask is because I need validation

1:07:21

And you have it Well if you

1:07:23

like this episode of why won't you

1:07:25

date me? You can like it You

1:07:27

can read it subscribe You can give

1:07:30

me five stars on Apple podcast, and

1:07:32

if you write me a dirty message

1:07:34

to why won't you date me? Podcast@gmail.com

1:07:37

a nasty message hitting on me. I

1:07:39

will read it dear Nicole It's always

1:07:41

bothered me that all these imaginary guys

1:07:43

in your intro is constantly gasolating you,

1:07:46

but there come is something it is.

1:07:48

And all of my intros are a

1:07:50

man lying to me about what come

1:07:52

is. That's why you did. I love

1:07:55

that person. That's the fact that, oh,

1:07:57

that's brilliant. So the first thing. going

1:07:59

to do is get you a lie

1:08:01

detector to use on them. You'll never

1:08:04

have to worry about something being come

1:08:06

again. After that's settled, I'm going to

1:08:08

go right to Mr. Marvel himself and

1:08:10

convince him to cast you a storm

1:08:13

in the Next Avengers movie. You'll be

1:08:15

so iconic that they'll contact the director

1:08:17

of the Sonic movies to do Marvel's

1:08:19

first crossover. Why's Vin? I don't know.

1:08:22

Nothing about Fast and The Furious. To

1:08:24

thank you, Vin Diesel and you as

1:08:26

Storm have electrifying sex. See what I

1:08:28

did here? Okay. All night, uh, long.

1:08:31

Next day, Vin makes you a delicious

1:08:33

breakfast before Sonic comes to pick you

1:08:35

up. You and the Zonic crew zoom

1:08:38

into the horizon as the credits roll.

1:08:40

You realize that even though you're all

1:08:42

so fast you have each other in

1:08:44

the end. I hope this was a

1:08:47

treat to read. It was. All of

1:08:49

my favorite things were in here. I

1:08:51

love Storm. I love Sonic. I love

1:08:53

Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel was a bonus.

1:08:56

I didn't see it coming. It really

1:08:58

was. I, people constantly are like, Nicole,

1:09:00

I thought Vin Diesel died because I

1:09:02

post his, I'll put his Instagram in

1:09:05

my stories and I won't write anything.

1:09:07

It'll just be a picture of Vin

1:09:09

Diesel. Mr. Gum, please! Well, that's it.

1:09:11

Bye, bye! Don't ask Wayne what he

1:09:14

liked to promote. Oh, shit. It says

1:09:16

if I never do this podcast, I

1:09:18

always forget something. I've been doing this

1:09:20

for five years. Six. Oh shit. You

1:09:23

didn't have to do that. Very successfully.

1:09:25

I mean, you're the recipient of a

1:09:27

silver winner award of the Signals, which

1:09:30

I didn't know. That's not me. No,

1:09:32

that's not me. No, but your name's

1:09:34

on it. Is it? Yeah. Co-hosting, popcorn,

1:09:36

foodumbers. Oh! Oh, that's for newcomers, me

1:09:39

and... Lapkis, where we watch movies that

1:09:41

everyone has seen, but we have not.

1:09:43

Did you know Star Wars is a

1:09:45

lot? Is a lot of what? It's

1:09:48

a lot. A lot is happening. Each

1:09:50

set of movies is a different genre

1:09:52

of movie. The first three, the middle

1:09:54

three are indies, and then the first

1:09:57

three, the second three, they're very two

1:09:59

thousands. And then the back end, very

1:10:01

now. And I'm like, how this is

1:10:03

very convoluted movie viewing experience. I'm a

1:10:06

nerd. I died in the Will nerd

1:10:08

and I have never watched a full

1:10:10

Star Wars movie. No? I know all

1:10:12

the lure. But I've tried, oh no,

1:10:15

I've watched one. Which one? Not the

1:10:17

first three. The first one of the,

1:10:19

so what, there are like nine movies

1:10:21

now or something? So the fourth one.

1:10:24

So the second trail, truly, not anything

1:10:26

with John Boyega. I'm talking about the

1:10:28

second one, like, like the second batch

1:10:31

batch. Oh, with Natalie Portman? Yes. And

1:10:33

that man who wears a scoot, he

1:10:35

rides a scooter? Is that small? So

1:10:37

like when we thought that that was

1:10:40

gonna be, is like, oh shit, this

1:10:42

is gonna be, I sat through that,

1:10:44

my buddy Dean, we woke up, we

1:10:46

were at the movie theater at 7

1:10:49

AM, because it was his whole thing,

1:10:51

you're not getting tickets, I was so

1:10:53

mad. I sat through almost three hours

1:10:55

of this bullshit. I was like, is

1:10:58

this your Star Wars? Is this your

1:11:00

king? Is this your king? Keep him.

1:11:02

Boo. I did like Darth Maul. He

1:11:04

rides a scooter and I find that

1:11:07

very funny. And Darth Maul is dope.

1:11:09

I like, um, hello. Jarjar. Yes. I

1:11:11

looked at Mars. I was like, who

1:11:13

is this? Meas. That's actually one of

1:11:16

the only characters I like. And he

1:11:18

was the most, most maligns. People hated

1:11:20

Jar Jar Jar Banks. And you know

1:11:23

the actor. Ahmed Best best yes what

1:11:25

an amazing he's an talented dude such

1:11:27

a good character and incredible musician and

1:11:29

dancer and his wife she danced in

1:11:32

and my Vegas show and she's an

1:11:34

amazing dancer and singer that he he

1:11:36

got the wrong end end of the

1:11:38

stick he got he culturally got the

1:11:41

wrong end of the stick he he

1:11:43

he was directed a certain way I

1:11:45

could go into a whole thing just

1:11:47

for Ahmed best and justice for jar

1:11:50

jar justice for Jesse Spano I just

1:11:52

watched show girls for the first time

1:11:54

she did what the director wanted yes

1:11:56

which was an unhinged performance that is

1:11:59

perfect Yeah, people get get there. See,

1:12:01

that's the series that we should do.

1:12:03

Go through movies that are maligned and

1:12:05

performances and show how now in the

1:12:08

bright light of day, they were actually

1:12:10

good. Yeah, a hill, I'll die on

1:12:12

Madame Webb. Fun movie. I haven't seen

1:12:14

that yet. Listen. I would not recommend

1:12:17

watching it alone. I would recommend literally

1:12:19

spending money renting out a movie theater

1:12:21

and getting 50 people together and tell

1:12:24

them it's like Rocky Horror. Yell at

1:12:26

the screen. Have a nice time. That's

1:12:28

I was in a theater where at

1:12:30

one point the villain was speaking and

1:12:33

his mouth was not moving and I

1:12:35

just yelled they didn't finish the movie

1:12:37

and then everyone was like we're in

1:12:39

good company because in everyone like we

1:12:42

laugh there is this one pivotal scene

1:12:44

that's supposed to be like a like

1:12:46

just action packed and we all laughed

1:12:48

so hard and it was so I

1:12:51

really think once they saw that cut

1:12:53

they should have been like we should

1:12:55

market this as camp. This is Campy.

1:12:57

We're bringing Camp back. And I think

1:13:00

it's... I think it's... I think so.

1:13:02

Because I had a great time. Joker

1:13:04

too. Another Hill I'll Die Out. I

1:13:06

love Joker too. Craven? A movie? No

1:13:09

one's heard of? Oh, Craven? I want

1:13:11

to watch Craven. Because I love Craven.

1:13:13

I want to watch Craven. I want

1:13:16

to watch Craven. Oh, I'm a fan.

1:13:18

He was great and kick ass and

1:13:20

everything else he's. And everything else he's

1:13:22

done. Yeah, like, like once you're finished

1:13:25

with your five other podcasts, I'll start

1:13:27

another one. We will do. Thank you

1:13:29

for being here Wayne. Thank you. Do

1:13:31

you want to ask what he'd like

1:13:34

to promote? Oh yeah, that's right. Oh

1:13:36

yeah, we got off of it. You

1:13:38

have to leave all that it. Wayne,

1:13:40

is there any way you said that?

1:13:43

And then I, well, how do we

1:13:45

go on such a tangent? Wayne, do

1:13:47

you have anything you want to promote?

1:13:49

Yes, I will promote right here on

1:13:52

head gum. You got to check out.

1:13:54

What if? It's an improvised podcast. anything.

1:13:56

We get a guest, someone like yourself,

1:13:58

who I happen to be a fan

1:14:01

of, and then we bring them on

1:14:03

and we talk about whatever. We talk

1:14:05

about their life, we talk about their

1:14:07

career, anything that's going on in the

1:14:10

world. And then we put the little

1:14:12

improvisational twist on it of what if

1:14:14

and we make up songs, we have

1:14:17

live music, we never know where a

1:14:19

conversation is going to go. It's myself

1:14:21

and my partner, Jonathan Mangam, who you

1:14:23

can catch me with on the upcoming

1:14:26

season of Let's Line whose line is

1:14:28

it anyway. you can catch me on

1:14:30

the road doing my musical improv show

1:14:32

with him called Making Shit Up. And

1:14:35

I've got a bunch of other stuff,

1:14:37

but that's good for right now. Check

1:14:39

out the podcast right here on Headgum

1:14:41

and on Apple and anywhere else where

1:14:44

podcasts are. And we don't have a

1:14:46

YouTube page right now, but by the

1:14:48

time you watch this, we will have

1:14:50

the YouTube page up as well. Hell

1:14:53

yeah. Thank you for being here, Wayne.

1:14:55

Okay, bye, bye. You've been listening to

1:14:57

Why Won't You Tate Me With Me?

1:14:59

Nicole Byer. This show is produced and

1:15:02

edited by Mars, with executive producer Anya

1:15:04

Kenefskaya. It's engineered by Casey Donahue. With

1:15:06

guest research by Lindsay Kemp. Our VP

1:15:09

of content at headgum is Katie Moose.

1:15:11

And our theme music is arranged by

1:15:13

Mike Comite. Thanks for listening. We'll be

1:15:15

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1:15:18

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