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available in all states. Welcome

1:03

to another episode of Why Would You

1:05

Tell Me That with me Neil Delamer

1:08

and him Dave Moore. We are proudly

1:10

part of the A-class creator network and

1:12

basically in new development this series we

1:14

have no guest because we enjoy each

1:17

other's company, each other's cheaper. a cheaper

1:19

company, cheaper more available company than our

1:21

previous guest. Now we will still have

1:23

every so often have a super guest

1:26

that possibly has been on the show

1:28

before because we have our favorites. But

1:30

for now which is me wowing Dave

1:32

and Dave wowing me in a constant

1:34

circle of wow. Now I thought you would

1:37

use you would use facts and stories and

1:39

things to wear me but no in fact

1:41

what Neil has done today is he turned

1:43

up in a little kami top. I can

1:45

see just the lace is just peeking out

1:48

over the bottom of the camera screen here.

1:50

And to be honest with you, I'm here

1:52

for it. It's a delight. I presume at

1:54

some point during the chat he will stand

1:56

up and reveal all the rest of the

1:59

negligence and everything else he's wearing. But at

2:01

the moment I'm just being teased and yeah,

2:03

it's wowing me, I'll be honest. There will

2:05

be no reveal if I stand up there.

2:08

You're assuming there's more to go. There's this

2:10

is this. There's no way to talk about

2:12

your physicality, Neil. There will be a reveal.

2:14

There are things below the camera. I know

2:16

there are. Even Ken has stuff below the

2:19

camera. It's not much to look at, but

2:21

I mean it's there. It's something that is

2:23

not a vacuum. Hey, well anyway, you listen.

2:25

You're even looking, I'm talking to you today,

2:28

you know, you're looking at I'm gracing you

2:30

with my presence because, you know, I don't

2:32

like to brag about who I speak to

2:34

on my radio show, you know. But he

2:36

was talking to that spaceship, everybody. Well, it's

2:39

the right, it's the right part of the

2:41

world, you know. Okay, who was it? You

2:43

know, I'm just got to ask you a

2:45

question. Are you talking to me? You're talking

2:47

to me? You were not talking to Clint

2:49

E. I talked to Bobby Cannipar. Barbara Streisand

2:51

was there. No, yes, Mr. Robert De Niro.

2:53

The late Lassie. Really? Bobby De Niro. Yeah,

2:55

Bobby. And the wildest thing. And I didn't

2:58

look, it's a movie junk. You don't have

3:00

time to get into a lot of things.

3:02

You got to talk about the movie. You

3:04

got to talk about the movie. You got

3:06

a question in here and there that you

3:08

can kind of a bit of a bit

3:10

of a bit of fun with. But the

3:12

matter thing I want to talk to talk

3:14

to talk to talk to talk to talk

3:16

to talk to talk to talk to about.

3:18

He's got a two-year-old toddler. I wanted to

3:20

talk to him about like, what are you

3:22

getting up at like 6 a.m. and turning

3:24

on like Blooey and all these other kids

3:26

shows? Are you doing that in your 80s?

3:28

Because he has to be doing that. He

3:30

has to be doing that. He has to

3:32

be. He has to be. Of course, he

3:34

is. I mean, having had kids in my

3:36

30s, even that. was a struggle. Like you're,

3:38

you know, you should really be having them

3:40

in your in your late teens and early

3:42

20s. Generally, if he does what most parents

3:44

do, certainly someone like you does, you know,

3:46

attend to father that you are, you drive

3:49

the kids to football practice, you know. that

3:51

sort of crack right so eventually will he

3:53

be their taxi driver like that is going

3:55

to be exceptional when that happens really shave

3:57

his head into the Mohawk he laughed it

3:59

well that's the thing I suppose you see

4:01

those parents with the stickers on their car

4:03

you know mom's taxi dad is a taxi

4:05

driver yeah you literally have dad is the

4:07

taxi driver he actually is that would be

4:09

amazing yeah I can't tell you too much

4:11

about what it was doing to do in

4:13

Eastern Europe filming something today today I got

4:15

back last night, I got back last night,

4:17

I got back last night, and all I

4:19

can tell you was we met a Turkish

4:21

arms dealer at one point. Right now there's

4:23

a moment of, and he's going, his factory

4:25

makes weapons and he was like He was

4:27

at Penn's, like the duty making for, and

4:29

he goes, basically, you know, I'm a good

4:31

man, I'm a good man, and we make

4:33

it for the police, we make it for

4:35

the military of these, these kind of news

4:37

of countries, and these Western countries, and you

4:40

know, I make sure that these don't get

4:42

into nefarious hands, and people who might be

4:44

bad actors, or, you know, have malevolent intent,

4:46

and I'm a good man, I was like,

4:48

I got, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

4:50

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

4:52

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

4:54

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

4:56

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

4:58

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

5:00

cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool,

5:02

cool, cool, cool, And the ring don't of

5:04

his phone is amusing for Darth Vader. You're

5:06

just kidding me. Yeah, he goes, I'm a

5:08

good man, I have a family, I'm a

5:10

good man, and then he goes, do, do,

5:12

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

5:14

do, and he just went, I have to

5:16

take this, I walked away. No further comment

5:18

needed, that's absolutely brilliant. Yeah, so I was

5:20

feeling something that will come out in a

5:22

few months. You will be at the sounds

5:24

about that soon. I will absolutely. Because even

5:26

I don't know what you're talking about, even

5:28

though, you know, we're supposed to be friends

5:31

and you're supposed to tell me these things.

5:33

I'll tell you off air. Okay. It's no

5:35

Bobby De Niro, let me just tell me

5:37

with fact facts, not just bragging about your

5:39

very glamorous radio life. Fair enough, fair enough,

5:41

and as you know, as you know, and

5:43

as you know, as you know, as you

5:45

know, as you know, as you know, as

5:47

you know, as you know, as you know,

5:49

as you know, as you know, as you

5:51

know, as you know, as you know, as

5:53

you know, as you know, as you know,

5:55

as you know, as you know, as you

5:57

know, as you know, as you know, as

5:59

you know, as you know, as you know,

6:01

as you to me. I live in a

6:03

place called Port Marnock. It is on the

6:05

east coast of Ireland. It's a beautiful seaside

6:07

town. It's not a harbor town. I just

6:09

want to point that out. Like it's not,

6:11

Hoth is a harbor town. It's a very

6:13

close one and that would have, you know,

6:15

the fishing boats going in and out and,

6:17

you know, famous for its fish here and

6:19

fish. We don't have that. We're just got

6:22

a long two mile beautiful... Virgin Strand and

6:24

a really nice hotel and a really bad

6:26

hotel and a few things like that. You

6:28

know when you were in college or in

6:30

school in Belvedere and you you

6:32

know teenage boys develop a different

6:34

for different rates. Is it true

6:36

that when you were in the

6:38

showers and you got your first

6:40

pub they all nicknamed you Virgin

6:42

Strand? That is two miles of

6:44

pub, yeah, it's remarkable, yeah. It's

6:46

remarkable, yeah. Okay, so sorry, back

6:49

to Port monarch after rain, so.

6:51

Okay, so I live in a,

6:53

so I just want to give

6:55

everyone and you the understanding

6:57

that I need to be near the sea, right?

6:59

And I find myself almost craving at

7:02

what I'm not, like, you know, if

7:04

I was to visit your home county,

7:06

Neil, of awfully, I would feel landlocked,

7:08

because it is, frankly, frankly, a

7:11

landlocked, it's not that far away

7:13

from the sea. But it's not near

7:15

the sea. Like I've been to Atholone

7:17

and that really worries me. That's the

7:19

center of Ireland. That's about as

7:21

far as you can get from the

7:24

sea in Ireland, you know. So I

7:26

was thinking, in what country would I

7:28

feel the most disconnected from the sea?

7:30

Where is the farthest country from

7:32

the sea? Right. So automatically,

7:34

I don't know about you, I would

7:36

just think of where you've just been.

7:39

Central and Eastern Europe. I was straight

7:41

away. I've gone there and my brain going

7:43

no you've gone there You're not going there,

7:45

but I was I was going like you start

7:47

up off in Poland at the top Greece

7:50

at the bottom I'm thinking it's surely somewhere

7:52

in the middle of that There's a landlocked

7:54

country that would be quite a distance.

7:56

So I checked it out. And I

7:58

went for Slovakia. Okay and this Southern,

8:00

Southwestern border of Slovakia is 360 kilometers

8:02

from the Adriatic Sea. Right. It's quite

8:05

a distance. For a country, for example,

8:07

that's about 360 kilometers wide. It's quite

8:09

a distance. That's my argument. Yeah, yeah,

8:11

yeah, yeah. So then I figured, no,

8:14

I'm wrong with Europe, like you, I

8:16

think I said, no, Europe, it's too

8:18

small. You know, there's got to be

8:20

another place. So I looked at Africa,

8:23

which is... Absolutely huge. We've covered the

8:25

Mercator projection on this podcast. We know

8:27

that Africa is bigger than it looks

8:29

on the map. So I checked right

8:32

in the, I said, what's in the

8:34

center of Africa? And I found Chad.

8:36

And I said, okay, if I go

8:38

north from the northern border of Chad,

8:41

if I'm 360 kilometers away in Slovakia,

8:43

how far away am I from Chad

8:45

to the Mediterranean? 970 kilometers. Okay, now

8:47

you're talking somewhere. Now, however, given I

8:50

know what you do, and given the

8:52

way, even though you don't do charts

8:54

anymore, it's embedded in your brain, you

8:56

are starting and giving me, and we've

8:59

done Europe and we've done Europe and

9:01

we've done Africa, so you're going to

9:03

keep going, aren't you? I am going

9:05

to keep going to the number one,

9:08

and the number one I assumed was

9:10

going to have to be in Asia,

9:12

I didn't think there was anywhere in

9:14

South America that was, you know, tall

9:17

enough, tall enough, far enough, far away,

9:19

far away from the Pacific, far away

9:21

from the Pacific, from the Pacific, from

9:24

the Pacific, from the Pacific or the

9:26

Atlantic, from the Atlantic, and far away

9:28

from the Atlantic, I went for the

9:30

landlocked country between the giants of Russia

9:33

and the giants of China and said

9:35

Mongolia. Mongolia. Mongolia is 640 kilometers from

9:37

the yellow sea. So no, it's closer

9:39

to the sea than Chad is in

9:42

Africa. It's a stand, isn't it? It

9:44

is a stand Neil, I'm impressed with

9:46

you. You're right, it is a stand.

9:48

It is Kyrgyzstan. Kyrgyzstan is 1,000. 260

9:51

kilometers at its southern border from the

9:53

Arabian. It is the farthest country from

9:55

the sea in the world. You'd lose

9:57

your mind there. I think I would.

10:00

You would know what to do. Now

10:02

look I know they have lakes, I

10:04

know there is water, but there's something

10:06

about the same. You know when Irish

10:09

people bring tea bags abroad when they're

10:11

going to Spain and rashers? Yeah. Do

10:13

you just have like Holy Water but

10:15

you know a bit of a bit

10:18

of everything I've seen? What I do

10:20

is I have my son's virtual reality

10:22

goggles and what all I've done is

10:24

I've actually gone and I've stood at

10:27

the edge of the strand the Virgin

10:29

Strand here in Portmarnick and it's actually

10:31

called the Velvet Strand by the way

10:33

and I've stood there and I've just

10:36

recorded a video. of this tide coming

10:38

in and going out and then I

10:40

just play that back in the virtual

10:42

reality headset and I feel fine. I

10:45

like the way we both thought for

10:47

a second that you might have an

10:49

issue but missing the sea and my

10:52

low-fi practical way of doing it was

10:54

bringing a little tiny little bit of

10:56

the sea with you. and you're in

10:58

a bottle and yours was creating a

11:01

virtual reality solution using all of bottom

11:03

technology yeah and who for that to

11:05

Kyrgyzstan and that's why we are very

11:07

different people but in a beautiful way

11:10

do you get a little bit angsty

11:12

if you get a word and see

11:14

it's more it's more the obvious more

11:16

when I come home I don't realize

11:19

I've been angsty and then when I

11:21

see the sea I kind of go

11:23

Oh God, that's something else. And even

11:25

like to be honest with you, even

11:28

my commute in and out of town,

11:30

right? Like I work in the city

11:32

centre, I come out like the sea

11:34

is with me the hot, like the

11:37

river Liffey is there when I cross

11:39

the Liffey, then I drive out through,

11:41

you know, Clontare, whatever, the Irish Sea

11:43

is there, but it's kind of bayish,

11:46

it's not the sea, there's no sea

11:48

sea, whatever. So exactly, it's only when

11:50

I actually when I actually drive into

11:52

Port Marnick, I actually drive into Port

11:55

Marnack, into Port Marnock, into Port Marnock,

11:57

and Port Marnock, and I'm hotel, and

11:59

golf links. and the road kind of

12:01

opens up then at the Martello Tower,

12:04

that's when I actually see the sea

12:06

in verticals, I see the crashing waves,

12:08

the fishing boats, the islands, and I

12:10

go, oh my god, and I genuinely,

12:13

it genuinely does. like bring me a

12:15

sense of peace or something I don't

12:17

know I wonder how I mean if

12:20

we couldn't get you to see the

12:22

sea I wonder how long it's been

12:24

since you've seen the seat like the

12:26

furthest that like the longest time oh

12:29

I see what you mean if you

12:31

went beyond two or three months would

12:33

we have to put you in the

12:35

bath and just sold it up yeah

12:38

possibly so I think and to be

12:40

honest with you you said hoof it

12:42

off to Kyrgyzstan that isn't even actually

12:44

the place because that's the country that's

12:47

furthest from the sea. But the place,

12:49

the point that's furthest from the sea,

12:51

has the best name of anything ever.

12:53

It's called Landy Atlantis. Actually that will

12:56

be slightly better. It is called the

12:58

Eurasian Pole of Inaccessibility. The EPIA, I

13:00

don't know if it's an EPA or

13:02

EPIA, but it is the Eurasian Pole

13:05

of Inaccessibility, it's in China's... Jingjiang province,

13:07

something like that. Jingjiang. It's near the

13:09

border of Kazakhstan, a different stand. But

13:11

while I told you that Kyrgyzstan is

13:14

a country is 1,260 kilometers from the

13:16

sea. Yes. Imagine. Imagine me trying to

13:18

cope. with that. That's one of those

13:20

places where if you're in a restaurant

13:23

and they serve you fish or off

13:25

you fish. Even the McDonald's filayo fish

13:27

which as we all know is a

13:29

small percentage of fish even that you

13:32

should probably back away from. Yeah you're

13:34

better off going yeah for freshwater fish

13:36

there. Wow I wouldn't even even thought

13:38

it was anywhere that far within the

13:41

sea in the world. Over two and

13:43

a half thousand kilometers twice the distance

13:45

from Kyrgyz from Kyrgyz. Okay, the point

13:48

are you going to put to point

13:50

most in the sea? Yes, the wettest

13:52

point the wettest point in the world

13:54

Well, it's the furthest from land. The

13:57

furthest from land. Yes, not the wettest.

13:59

Yeah, but the furthest point in the

14:01

sea. You said, and not me, is

14:03

in, surprisingly, the South Pacific, obviously the

14:06

biggest body of water. It is even

14:08

further from land than the Eurasian

14:10

Pole of Inaccessibility is from the

14:12

sea. And I can buy that,

14:14

yeah. It's 2,688 kilometers from land.

14:16

It is called Point Nemo, and

14:19

it is right smack bang in

14:21

the middle of the South Pacific.

14:23

And it's another, like, whatever, that

14:25

is 43 kilometers further from

14:28

land than the E. PIA is from the

14:30

C. And did you find that difficult to

14:32

find? Well, not to find out about.

14:34

I've never been there. I haven't actually

14:36

found it. Yeah. But you mean the

14:38

poll of inaccessible? No, no, not enough

14:40

that you were basically essentially finding Nemo

14:43

for this part of the pod and

14:45

I wondered how difficult that was. Point

14:47

Nemo, very good Neil. Very good. The

14:49

jokes are excellent. I usually go over

14:52

my head. And but I looked, listen,

14:54

I looked at some other extremes on

14:56

earth. Okay, I think you like some

14:58

of this, right? The northernmost permanent place

15:01

on earth is called, now this doesn't sound

15:03

like, I don't know, it sounds like

15:05

something else. Cafe Cluben, island,

15:07

north of Greenland. And cafe Cluben

15:09

to me sounds like... some kind

15:12

of like Norwegian mix between dance

15:14

music and an espresso shot. Yeah,

15:16

come to Calfour Cluben. Yes, where

15:19

we have socially responsible ecstasy. That's

15:21

what it sounds like. The close

15:24

sticks, globe, but it's all based

15:26

on recycled, recycled plastic and... What

15:28

do you call the name? What's

15:31

the name of those fish who

15:33

can who can light up in

15:35

the dark? What are they called?

15:38

All fish in your cellophilt,

15:40

I would have thought. No,

15:42

no, no, you know the

15:44

ones that are bioluminescent, bioluminescent,

15:46

that's what I was looking

15:48

for. That's it. DJ bioluminescent,

15:50

bioluminescent, yeah. I was hoping

15:52

it would be somewhere in

15:54

Canada, with a wonderful name

15:57

like, you know, Slayh whale,

15:59

you know. most show or capital

16:01

island. It is actually north of

16:03

Greenland which is saying something. It's

16:05

83 degrees 40 minutes north and

16:07

as you know with like degrees

16:09

it only goes to 90. So

16:11

it is the most. Many people

16:13

live there. Nobody. It's an uninhabited

16:16

island. There are gravel sand banks

16:18

that are further north but they're

16:20

not class as permanent. This is

16:22

the permanent one. Or permanent land.

16:24

Oh, so there's ice flows. Well,

16:26

they're gravel banks. Yeah, the gravel

16:28

banks kind of the tide will

16:30

go up and down over those.

16:32

So they're not class of permanent

16:34

pieces of land. Catholic Lumen Island

16:36

is permanent. Antarctica is obviously the

16:38

southernmost place on earth, but the

16:40

southernmost continental place, rather than being

16:43

on Antarctica, is Cape Froward in

16:45

Chile. The southernmost island. Frowward. Not

16:47

forward, froward, which I find a

16:49

strange thing. If Jedward did frozen

16:51

yogurt, that's what it would be

16:53

called. Because you know the way

16:55

people do these weird little tie-ups.

16:57

Yes. It's jepic. Yeah. Fromwards. Oh,

16:59

I love last week in the

17:01

podcast episode, Neil. You, I think

17:03

we were referencing. I can't remember

17:05

who we were referencing but I

17:07

explained it and you went no

17:09

stop explaining who people are let

17:12

them have to go our American

17:14

audience or our like you know

17:16

like South Chinese audience I can't

17:18

remember who it was it was

17:20

so well you they're gonna have

17:22

to do Jedward this thing I'm

17:24

thinking now Jedward is going to

17:26

be one of those things and

17:28

they're not going to be disappointed

17:30

when they look up Jedward that

17:32

is for sure yeah enjoy that

17:34

that's our little gift from from

17:36

from us to you look up

17:39

Jedwards if you've never heard Wow,

17:41

be prepared to lose a long

17:43

period of your life. Read the

17:45

about that. The southernmost island, Neil,

17:47

because we have an island obviously

17:49

here in Ireland, the southernmost island

17:51

is Deverell Island, which is, and

17:53

I remember I gave you the

17:55

80, 83 degrees, 40 minutes north,

17:57

this is 81 degrees 28 minutes

17:59

south, unsupervisedly again in the South

18:01

Pacific. I have a question for

18:03

you and if you know the

18:06

answer it's going to ruin my

18:08

episode or this half my episode

18:10

so I'm hoping you don't but

18:12

yeah which country Neil Delmer yes

18:14

yes I'm like he's the is

18:16

this the fellow he's like you

18:18

know I'm so already on this

18:20

like you know you've seen him

18:22

win all the like celebrity mastermind

18:24

and the chase me tell me

18:26

tell me tell me I want

18:28

country is the only country yes

18:30

that is in all four hemispheres

18:33

Eastern Western Hemispheres. Yeah, thank you.

18:35

Thank you for that. I mean,

18:37

I did know what the hemispheres

18:39

were. I didn't think it was

18:41

North, South, Ringo and Paul. Okay,

18:43

I'm gonna go, this is, I'm

18:45

gonna go Craigra, here. Is it

18:47

a European country? No. Okay. It

18:49

is not European. Because I was

18:51

gonna go like France, because obviously

18:53

France. Oh, because it has like

18:55

an island. Different parts of it.

18:57

No, no, no. I know what

18:59

you mean. I know what you

19:02

mean. Okay, so it's one singular

19:04

kind of country as you would

19:06

look at. Well, it's all reason

19:08

it isn't. No, I'm going to

19:10

give you that clue that it

19:12

isn't a singular country. It is

19:14

a, yeah, it is a multiple

19:16

of countries, but they're not remotely,

19:18

like as in, they're all beside

19:20

each other. They're not have to

19:22

cross the equator. Brazil. Because Brazil

19:24

isn't anywhere near the 180th meridian.

19:26

See it? So it has to

19:29

cross the equator and it has

19:31

to be on the 180th meridian.

19:33

And that in itself should give

19:35

you the general area for a

19:37

smart man like yourself. No, I

19:39

don't know. Well, I didn't know

19:41

either. And so I have no

19:43

judgment for you whatsoever. The correct

19:45

answer is... You should have judgment.

19:47

Is Kiribati. Off! What's yourself? Care

19:49

about it? Well, here's the thing.

19:51

You see, my son is a

19:53

bit of a savant when it

19:56

comes... to flags of the world,

19:58

right? And so he will go

20:00

to YouTube and he will put

20:02

in flags of the world test,

20:04

like impossible level, and we'll just

20:06

nail Solomon Islands Vanuatu, like Turks

20:08

and Kekos, Kiribati. So I've heard

20:10

Kiribati a million times, so this

20:12

is why I heard of this.

20:14

Oh no, I know you've heard

20:16

of it, but I'm saying it's

20:18

very familiar to me, it's certainly

20:20

it, it's very familiar to me,

20:23

it's flag, because as I keep

20:25

seeing the test on YouTube. Interestingly,

20:27

it's not called Kiribati. We're pronouncing

20:29

it wrong. Well, it's called Declan

20:31

or something. No, no, no, it's

20:33

close. It's close. But T-I, in

20:35

Gilbertese, Gilbertese is the name of

20:37

the language they speak. Oh, wow,

20:39

okay. I'm getting really into this.

20:41

T-I, in Gilbertese, is pronounced S,

20:43

okay? Yeah. So, Kiribati is actually

20:45

called Kiribass. Kirabas, yes, Kirabas. I'm

20:47

trying to figure out if we

20:49

have any listeners in Kirabas. Oh

20:52

Jesus, that would make me beyond

20:54

happy if there was a singular

20:56

Kirabasian listener. I don't think we

20:58

do. No, we don't. Damn. Okay,

21:00

well maybe somebody can send this

21:02

on to one of the... Curabas.

21:04

We have one in French Polynesia.

21:06

Okay. Well, let me tell you

21:08

something else, right? Famously, you'll know

21:10

the name of this place. It's

21:12

not the Australian one, but there

21:14

is a place in Curabas. I'm

21:16

going to try and call it

21:19

Curabas now, even though we know

21:21

it's Curabati. Call Christmas Island. Okay?

21:23

Christmas Island is actually written. K-I-I-R-I-I-T-I,

21:25

because that's S-S, remember. M-M-A-A-A-A-A-A-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-I. but

21:27

it's Chrismas island so T-I-S-S-S okay

21:29

I love it I love it

21:31

I love it so Haiti would

21:33

be has if that was in

21:35

that part yeah if it was

21:37

if it was the same way

21:39

in the same that Gilbertes as

21:41

I said is the language okay

21:43

Gilberties is so there's the Kirabas

21:46

is made up of the Gilbert

21:48

islands, it's made up of the,

21:50

that's the main kind of, what's

21:52

that word, archipelago of islands. Okay,

21:54

yeah. Then there is the Line

21:56

Islands, L-I-N-E, and that's where Christmas

21:58

Island is, and then the Phoenix

22:00

Islands, which are kind of in

22:02

the middle. Now look, this is

22:04

spread over the usual kind of

22:06

thing when you see these Pacific

22:08

nations, three and a half million

22:10

square miles of ocean or whatever,

22:13

but they're relatively together in terms

22:15

of... you know of their location.

22:17

So they're an island. I think

22:19

there might be 32 different atolles

22:21

or something like that. Interesting. Kirabas

22:23

is also the furthest ahead of

22:25

Greenwich meantime. It's 14 hours ahead,

22:27

which means it's the first country

22:29

in the world to celebrate New

22:31

Year. Ah. That's good, right? Yeah,

22:33

that's quality, that is. It also,

22:35

sadly, is the third least visited

22:37

country in the world. It only

22:39

receives about 6,000 visitors a year,

22:42

and only the Marshall Islands and

22:44

Tuvalu receive fewer tourists. I mean,

22:46

it looks like it is quite

22:48

difficult. to get to in fairness.

22:50

That is fair. So if you

22:52

look it up, I mean, you

22:54

know, you see kind of New

22:56

Zealand in the corner of your

22:58

height, you happen, you can in

23:00

the corners your right, but like

23:02

it is blue basically blue, blue,

23:04

blue, blue, blue. Yeah, a lot

23:06

of it. I mean, if they

23:09

could really market that though, you

23:11

know, a lot of people go

23:13

to that to visit one place

23:15

and... That's in four hemispheres. Yeah.

23:17

Yeah, I mean, I think they're

23:19

missing out a little bit, but

23:21

then I think, you know, judging

23:23

by looking up the GDP and

23:25

so if it isn't the most

23:27

prosperous of nations either, it doesn't

23:29

have much in the way of

23:31

natural resources, the little bit of

23:33

phosphorus that was there was kind

23:36

of eaten out of it very

23:38

early. And interestingly, the main island

23:40

is South Tarawa. is one of

23:42

the most densely populated places on

23:44

earth. It has a population density

23:46

the same as Tokyo and Hong

23:48

Kong. And it presumably it's a

23:50

small island. So like very small.

23:52

That's probably people going around in

23:54

Max and two or three people

23:56

high basically. It's just probably several.

23:58

human pyramids. But it could easily

24:00

be. The name of the place

24:03

is actually a little bit of

24:05

a wild story as well. I like

24:07

this one as well, right? Yeah.

24:09

So it's called Kiribass because the

24:11

Gilbertese rendition of the word Gilbert's plural

24:13

Gilbert's, the plural Gilbert's, the

24:16

plural Gilbert's, plural Gilbert's, is

24:18

Kiriberts, and that's named after

24:20

the main archipelago of violence.

24:22

But it was this and this,

24:24

you got to follow the story

24:27

and try your best here. It's

24:29

for Gilbert Islands. Yes. in 1820

24:31

by a Russian admiral called Van

24:33

Crucenstern and a French captain called

24:36

Duperie but they named it after the

24:38

British captain Thomas Gilbert who had passed

24:40

the islands and size of them in

24:42

1788. So they named it after him

24:44

who passed it in the 1700s and

24:47

they did it in the 1800s. Yeah,

24:49

about 40 years later, 30 odd years

24:51

later. That was such a 19th century

24:53

thing to do. If you did that

24:55

now, if you saw something now, it

24:58

would be like, it's called Dave Island,

25:00

Dave Land, it's got mine, mine, it's

25:02

called the Newport monarch, and the capital

25:04

will be velvet strand or virgin strand

25:06

before I conditioned down there. But it's

25:08

mine! Whereas they were all 19th century.

25:11

Well, I know we've seen it, but

25:13

frankly. It's been on my map and

25:15

cartography since 1788. I will call it

25:17

the Gilbert Islands. We will give it

25:19

to the man who soared first. Congratulations,

25:21

sir. Dr. Thomas Gilbert. That's the point

25:23

of thing I want to tell you

25:25

about, Kiribas, is the only endemic animal

25:28

to the island. There are lots of

25:30

imported animals. There are dogs and cats

25:32

and rats and rats. Yeah. There are

25:34

a seabur to come and go. But

25:37

there's one endemic bird. Okay, to the

25:39

island and it has a fantastic name.

25:41

It is called, and I want you to

25:43

remember this, this is the one you're

25:45

going to tell your mates down the

25:48

pub, the only endemic animal to

25:50

the only country that's in all

25:52

four hemispheres of the world is

25:54

called the Buckyko. And what does

25:56

that mean, do you know? It's just the

25:58

name of the bird. Just call I

26:01

wonder is it? I wonder

26:03

is it the sound that

26:05

makes? Well, I wish it

26:08

was But I'm out of

26:10

pay a bucki go gico

26:12

gico I mean, I don't

26:14

know why but I found

26:16

out offensive Well, I don't

26:19

want to gico yourself. I

26:21

just think that the some

26:23

there's an ornithologist sitting there

26:25

who has enjoyed the rest

26:28

of the podcast up to

26:30

now and is Absolutely live

26:32

at your pronunciation. Can we?

26:34

Actually that's an interesting thing

26:36

for council culture. Can you

26:39

appropriate another species culture? Do

26:41

you know what you go?

26:43

Move. I'll give alternatives. I'll

26:45

give alternatives for ornithologists, right?

26:48

And they can decide which

26:50

one is least offensive, right?

26:52

I've given you the first

26:54

one. Okay, go, go! Now

26:57

I'm going for... No, that's

26:59

just... You're just doing chicken

27:01

face. That's what you're doing

27:03

there. That is not acceptable.

27:05

But, he go, he go.

27:08

But, he go, he go.

27:10

No, no, that's... Bucky, go,

27:12

go, go! There's too many

27:14

syllables, he's gonna be here

27:17

for an hour. Just, if

27:19

you're listening to this, just...

27:21

No, no, okay, I'll tell

27:23

you what, I give you,

27:26

I shout emotions and I

27:28

want you to say a

27:30

bucky-go. Oh, it's tremendous. It

27:32

goes, a motion, great, go,

27:34

go, go, go, go, go?

27:37

Quizico, bucky, go? Bucki, go?

27:39

Bucky, go? Sex, but possibly

27:41

will regret it tomorrow. I

27:45

think we leave it there

27:47

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30:00

back to part two of Why Would

30:02

you tell me that? Now I have

30:05

satisfied my Bockico-Kico fetish and I will

30:07

leave it there, but Neil is now

30:09

going to wow us with some of

30:11

his own facts. What a timid introduction

30:14

versus you just screaming random bird noises

30:16

for the last five minutes of part

30:18

wood. Let's stick with islands since you

30:20

love islands so much, but I'm going

30:23

to ask you a question. I think

30:25

you're going to like this. What's the

30:27

best thing that can happen to you

30:30

in jail? Well, I mean... And does

30:32

it involve you screaming bucky-keke-ke-ke-go at the

30:34

top of your lungs? I know a

30:36

couple of things about jail. I know...

30:39

He'd written by the bird man about

30:41

the trash. I know a couple of

30:43

things about jail, right? I know the

30:46

first thing you have to do is

30:48

go into the yard and pick on

30:50

the biggest guy around, beat him up

30:52

and then everyone thinks you're great. I

30:55

know that much. Okay, okay. That's the

30:57

first thing. So that's a pretty good

30:59

thing if you can pull that off,

31:02

I think. I think, I think that's

31:04

probably... That's probably pretty good. You could

31:06

get hench I suppose as well couldn't

31:08

you? You definitely could, you definitely could

31:11

because there's got plenty time to kind

31:13

of, you know, get your work it

31:15

on. I suppose again this will be

31:18

relevant to people who have seen Paddington

31:20

too. You could teach the surly Irish

31:22

chef how to make marmalade and then

31:24

ingratiate yourself pretty much with everybody. in

31:27

prison. But I would think the best

31:29

thing to happen to be, to be

31:31

in prison, would be to be able

31:33

to get out. Yeah, I mean, I

31:36

like the duality of your thinking. I

31:38

mean, I would call you a good

31:40

generalist. I mean, this is from a

31:43

man who's on the radio all the

31:45

time, you know, you can deal with

31:47

geography, you're into your sports, that's what

31:49

you are good at. And if you

31:52

ever want to know how good he

31:54

is, he is, general stuff. to cuff

31:56

oranges to make marmalade. I mean you

31:59

are saying the wide range of divorce

32:01

happens right there. And don't forget to

32:03

zest it up a bit. Okay, well

32:05

famously you can learn. Of course you

32:08

can learn, yes, see me. One of

32:10

my favourite ever puns is lads who

32:12

went to the jail talked. You know

32:15

when they learned Irish? Oh, that is

32:17

brilliant. Always like that, north of the

32:19

border. Now, I'm going to tell you

32:21

a story about a man in Martinique,

32:24

since we're talking about a glamorous island,

32:26

right? Wonderful. So there's a guy called

32:28

Ludker. which is not as far as,

32:31

not as actually the name, he was

32:33

born, Louis Auguste, Ludker Silbaros, right? Born

32:35

in 875, we're talking about Martinique in

32:37

the Caribbean, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful spot. He's

32:40

born 1875 and he's not a great

32:42

man, to be honest with you. He

32:44

drinks a lot, he usually gets in

32:47

trouble basically. A lot of people did

32:49

that in those days. Look at all

32:51

the prison records. So, he gets arrested

32:53

for getting into another fight. We think

32:56

it's a fight, but he certainly gets

32:58

arrested on the 7th of Maine 1902.

33:00

Cops are annoyed by this and they

33:02

throw him into solitary confinement. And the

33:05

solitary confinement here is a tiny half

33:07

underground cell with no windows, a very

33:09

narrow slit in the door facing out

33:12

to sea, which is extremely relevant because

33:14

the police have just saved his life

33:16

and they have not realized it and

33:18

neither is he. Because the next morning

33:21

while chaos ensues ensues in Martinique. This

33:23

is the 7th of May. On the

33:25

8th of May, the Montpellier volcano, just

33:28

north of Saint-Pierre, which is where we're

33:30

talking about here, which is a kind

33:32

of a bustling cultural capital of Martinique

33:34

at the time. There's about 30,000 people

33:37

living it. It's only seven miles away,

33:39

it erupts. Right? Now there's people who

33:41

have been coming in for the last

33:44

three or four days into the town,

33:46

going, we were going to have a

33:48

picnic on the volcano on the hillside

33:50

three days. right right by ash we

33:53

mean not the popular comes down band

33:55

but ash is coming up from what

33:57

was there so anyway 1977 that was

34:00

it was nice there was Yes. That

34:02

was their album. So they're going, listen,

34:04

something bad is going to happen. So

34:06

there's hundreds and hundreds and possibly thousands

34:09

of people coming into the country site.

34:11

I have a brain. I think they had

34:13

a song called Burn Baby Burn, which I

34:15

played on the radio for a few years.

34:18

Mars. What was this? Girl from Mars. Girl

34:20

from Mars. Yeah. So they're going into

34:22

town and people in town. It's fine.

34:24

It's fine. It's not fine. No. On the

34:26

8 of May, basically, basically it's.

34:28

about 750 in the morning, it

34:31

erupts. And when it erupts

34:33

big, it goes massive. It

34:35

sends a cloud of superheated

34:37

gas and thus racing towards

34:39

the city. When I say

34:41

racing, 400 miles an hour.

34:43

Oh Jesus. At 1,075 degree

34:46

pressure wave flattens everything.

34:48

Every building in the city,

34:51

anyone unlucky enough to be

34:53

in its way, instantly ice.

34:55

Even people in shelters, they're

34:58

superheated gas. Your lungs are

35:00

basically, I mean, the only

35:02

thing you can say about this as

35:04

a death is easy enough for us

35:07

to say at this point is, it

35:09

is very quick. Sure, sure, sure. Though

35:11

that sometimes is a little bit of

35:13

a blessing to be fair. Yes,

35:15

right. So, there's 30,000 people in the

35:17

town. You know, am I to survive?

35:20

This is what he's billed as

35:22

the only... single survivor of this.

35:24

Oh my God. So this rushes

35:26

down the mountain. This wave of super

35:28

gas is in ash and everything else,

35:31

right? And he takes off his clothes

35:33

and he pees on his clothes and

35:35

he stuffs the damp clothes in

35:37

the slit of the door. Now

35:39

hang, how clever is this guy

35:41

that he, when all chaos breaks

35:43

loose, he understands. I need to protect myself again

35:45

as opposed to trying to peek out the little

35:48

slit and see what the hell is happening. Well

35:50

apparently there's like snakes and which is a comical

35:52

image snakes and birds on earth flying away from

35:54

this in three days before it and people going

35:56

oh I'm sure that's fine I'm sure there's nothing

35:58

wrong with that. No no. I've seen enough

36:00

films to know that if you walk

36:03

anywhere and see all the animals that

36:05

you can in the island running in

36:07

the opposite direction. That's totally fine. Like

36:10

at one point though, there was a

36:12

marathon race in, or some sort of

36:14

road race in Ireland that ran into

36:17

the poor tunnel. I've always thought it

36:19

would be absolutely amazing to be sitting

36:21

in the poor tunnel and as they

36:24

entered it, to be running in the

36:26

opposite direction going, turn back, turn back,

36:28

because if you see that, if you

36:31

do that with enough zest, Jesus Christ!

36:33

Even if you didn't show turn back,

36:35

if you just sprinted while screaming and

36:38

crying, unintelligibly, the other direction, then... You

36:40

would absolutely freak out, wouldn't you? You

36:42

totally would. So this guy, so he's

36:45

in the prison, he is badly burned

36:47

because it's still like this thousand degree

36:49

wave coming towards him, right? God. But,

36:52

uh, he survives it. and this is

36:54

just it gets weird in this of

36:56

course so he survives it and if

36:59

you are we're talking about 1902 so

37:01

let me let me ask you this

37:03

question we've covered this before remember we

37:06

talked to Luke O'Neill about the guy

37:08

who accidentally he put the Tampering rods

37:10

through his brain. Right. If you're a

37:13

freak, and I say freaking in verdict

37:15

cameras there, a freak of nature, a

37:17

freak of an accident in the late

37:19

19th century, or the early 20th century,

37:22

what job do you get after it?

37:24

You're going to the circus. You're going

37:26

to the circus. Yes, you are. He

37:29

is hired by Barnum and Bailey's circus.

37:31

Wow. And he becomes a celebrity. And

37:33

posters build him as the only living

37:36

object that survived in the silent city

37:38

of death. Oh, that's incredible. That's incredible.

37:40

because of course they were fairly fairly

37:43

into their hyperbole. They were, they were,

37:45

they were, that is unreal. You can

37:47

see the cell. Still there. In Saint-Pierre.

37:50

Used to be the culture of capital.

37:52

They reckon only has 5,000 people now.

37:54

It never recovered from that. And it

37:57

was culture of capital. But of course,

37:59

there's a couple of things that they're

38:01

standing out here, right? One, what did

38:04

they do? So we don't know what

38:06

he did. He was... of whatever crime

38:08

he did to get himself put into

38:11

child treatment at night. Right. I suppose

38:13

two reasons. First reason is because has

38:15

he suffered enough? Because he was burnt.

38:18

Right. Second reason is, but presumably his

38:20

victim, everybody collected evidence, everybody was investing

38:22

in the case, everybody he would witness

38:25

this and everybody who was going to

38:27

prosecute it, is gone. I've got a

38:29

question. Yes. How did he get out?

38:32

Like all he's got is piss stained

38:34

clothes and a slash out looking at

38:36

the sea. When did someone arrive to

38:39

go? Oh, they're all dead. Well, let's

38:41

check the one jail cell that somebody

38:43

mightn't be. Four days later. Oh my

38:46

God. People were, were, rescuers were going

38:48

through the carnage basically. And they found

38:50

them. Wow. Yeah. Now, there are two

38:53

other people. But we only have two

38:55

names of people who survived. There was

38:57

a young girl called Havira da e

38:59

free, I F or I Ellie, and

39:02

she is said to have seen the

39:04

volcano beginning to erupt and got into

39:06

a bowl, wrote to a cave where

39:09

she and her friends used to play

39:11

pirates. And in her words, before I

39:13

got there, I looked back at the

39:16

whole side of the mountain, which was

39:18

near the town, seemed to open and

39:20

boil down. There's another guy called Leon

39:23

Compar Le Andra. and he said to

39:25

have survived as well, but we don't

39:27

necessarily know. He said he was in

39:30

a house, but scientists think that that

39:32

isn't likely to blow into the sea

39:34

or fell into the sea. And he

39:37

was thought to be a madman when

39:39

he showed up naked and burned in

39:41

the town of Fort La France. Wow.

39:44

And he was the opposite of Ludger

39:46

in some ways because his look was,

39:48

yeah, the opposite. He was nearly killed

39:51

by the volcano twice more during subsequent

39:53

explosion. Oh my God. If I was

39:55

one of three names that was looking

39:58

up, I would have moved. I would

40:00

have moved away from the source of

40:02

my near death. But listen, socioeconomically, maybe

40:05

the man had very little. in terms

40:07

of resources to try and move away.

40:09

But still I think the fact that

40:12

the other fellow managed to go off

40:14

and get himself a career as a

40:16

local circus celebrity was definitely the smarter

40:19

move. Isn't that mad? That is wild.

40:21

Absolutely wild. I can't believe that. Okay

40:23

this is and the place I found

40:26

that was in the quiz question because

40:28

it was like how did this guy

40:30

survive this particular eruption? Also in a

40:33

quiz question in the same quiz set

40:35

the second thing I have for you

40:37

this week is and it said true

40:39

or false and it named the... Stakes

40:42

sport of Maryland in the US. Yeah,

40:44

I'm on Maryland. Yeah, okay. What is

40:46

it? State sport. I will give you

40:49

a million pounds if you guess this.

40:51

Well then I'm gonna have to get

40:53

it because I need a million pounds.

40:56

You need... Sorry, is this pound sterling?

40:58

Are they old Irish punts? It's pound

41:00

weight. Pound weight. A million pound weight

41:03

of gold. Of gold. Of gold. of

41:05

gold. Okay. Within that too for a

41:07

rush in. It is. I give you

41:10

a clue. Oh, you give me a

41:12

clue. No, no, I tell you, give

41:14

a guess. I give a guess for

41:17

it. I give you a clue. Maryland.

41:19

The state sport of Maryland is sow

41:21

tickling. So tickling. Is that a sport?

41:24

I don't know. I don't know. I

41:26

don't know where the show sow came

41:28

for. Yes, it should be. I don't

41:31

know why I picked a pig. Do

41:33

you know that film called The Horse

41:35

Whisper? Yes. I would have talked to

41:38

the next one in that franchise is

41:40

the Southicular. It should have been. This

41:42

sound needs to be broken. She keeps

41:45

knowing Kermit and we need to break

41:47

her will. But I am the Southicular.

41:49

Okay, so I gather up so can

41:52

I have a clue now that I'm

41:54

presumably wrong? Yes, so Maryland is famously

41:56

on the cokes, isn't it? I think

41:59

it's on the cokes anyway. So think.

42:01

Thinker along those lines. Isn't the Navy,

42:03

the capital of the Navy, or the

42:06

central of the Navy there I think

42:08

in Annapolis? I mean, if you're saying

42:10

think coastal, like is it, you

42:13

know, fish licking? I don't know

42:15

why all my things are animals

42:17

and then activities, but around them.

42:19

Yeah. Maybe I need to look

42:22

at myself. Is it frog glancing?

42:24

Is it monkey touching? Is it

42:26

donkey caressing? Is it donkey

42:28

caressing? I think it is...

42:31

Is it a hedgehog

42:33

staring? No, it's not

42:35

doing animals near, come on.

42:37

It is long boat racing.

42:39

Oh! You're getting closer. Okay, I'm

42:42

going to put you out of

42:44

your misery. It's... Go on. Jousting!

42:46

I'm getting close. I just couldn't

42:48

rest you within the million weeks.

42:50

I removed the animals which made

42:52

me get a bit closer. Jousting!

42:55

Jousting became the official sport of

42:57

Maryland in 1962. Wow. Maryland was

42:59

the first day to adopt an

43:01

official sport. Wow, the first one

43:03

to adopt one and that's what

43:06

they picked jousting. That's what they

43:08

picked, yeah, the world's oldest equestrian

43:10

sport, you know what it is,

43:12

you don't know what it is,

43:14

look it up, this is the

43:16

J section, J Edward and Jousting,

43:18

that's what you have to look

43:20

up, that's your homework this week,

43:22

come back. You know what it

43:24

is, it's developed in middle ages,

43:26

it's combat training, it's nights, you'll

43:28

know it's... potentially vicious as well. It is.

43:30

Sadly. I mean, I have an image of the people in this

43:32

area just, I was going to say a horse and towards each

43:34

other, which is exactly the right thing. Literally horse and towards each other.

43:37

And people just damaging people. I think, you know, imagine if to us,

43:39

do you know, if people say guns don't kill people, people, people, people,

43:41

kill people. And you know, the thing that will stop a bad guy

43:43

with a gun is a good guy with a good guy with a

43:45

gun, I would, I would a gun, I would a gun, I would

43:47

a gun, I would a gun, I would a gun, I would a

43:50

gun, I would a gun, I would, I would, I would, I would,

43:52

I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I

43:54

would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would,

43:56

I would, I would, I would, I would, at 40 miles an hour

43:58

on the back of a charger with a lance. would stop you

44:00

in the middle of your Bank

44:03

of America robbery. Yes! You're possibly

44:05

expecting an oozy, but if a

44:07

knight of the realm, if you

44:09

just heard, you're expecting, woo! You

44:11

hear, clippity clippity clippity clopity clippity

44:13

clippity clippity clippity clippity clopody. And

44:15

imagine if on his shoulder he

44:17

had buck-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo-goo! Every knight needs a

44:19

squire, and this is mine. It's

44:21

a bit of a kind of

44:23

a dial-down version. It's not ceremonial,

44:25

Jesse. Well, it's not in that

44:27

there is a degree of skill

44:29

in horsemanship and all that stuff.

44:31

And the good thing about this

44:33

is that you can use all

44:35

sorts of degrees of horses. Do

44:37

you know the way like your,

44:39

people would describe you as a

44:41

thoroughbred in that, you know, and...

44:43

You basically have wasted a lot

44:45

of money and are very highly

44:47

strong. But my sperm is highly

44:49

valued. His sperm, yes. Personally, when

44:51

he retires from today of them,

44:53

he's going out to stubs. He's

44:56

going to wander around the car,

44:58

throwing shapes until we hear of

45:00

his death on the news. I

45:02

heard about horse's death on the

45:04

news the news the other day.

45:06

on RTUs. No, I am, excuse

45:08

me, I don't go around and

45:10

pregnant anything. They hold some kind

45:12

of a weird sleeve beside me,

45:14

they excite me and then I

45:16

go to town on that. That's

45:18

what happened. Is that what happens

45:20

for you, is it? Yes, apparently

45:22

so, yeah. Just some guy dressed

45:24

as Paul's goals. and another guy

45:26

like I think an ultimate Brian

45:28

Robson mask from the media 80s

45:30

and that's what gets you gone

45:32

of all of the sexy footballers

45:34

you could have named who played

45:36

for Manchester United much as I

45:38

love him you picked Colsey I'm

45:40

here for it I'm here for

45:42

it really because I think you're

45:44

not that vanilla in your taste

45:47

I think you'd be like yeah

45:49

I think it would be David

45:51

May or something to be answered

45:53

I think it would be David

45:55

May or something to be answered

45:57

you I think it would be

45:59

Jim Lay would be Brian It'd

46:01

be long block. No, because you

46:03

see he's French and tall and

46:05

handsome all the rest. Okay, okay,

46:07

okay, that's what most people expect.

46:09

to say it's somebody else. It's

46:11

actually Liverpool's Sami Lee. Yeah. It

46:13

feels so wrong. It feels so

46:15

wrong. Egor fish can. That's who

46:17

it is. Oh yeah. So no,

46:19

it's yeah. What we got back

46:21

to we were calling you a

46:23

thoroughbred. Sorry, yes, yes, a thoroughbred.

46:25

Okay. By point is you can

46:27

use a thoroughbred horse. You can

46:29

use a kind of a. of

46:31

a stock horse. You can use

46:33

any sort of horse rejected. Can

46:35

you use a small Shetland pony?

46:37

You can jump under his jouse,

46:40

get a different angle, yoyk, he's

46:42

going up his hoop, and off

46:44

he goes. As you shout your

46:46

war cry as he lands on

46:48

the ground, Buck-a-coquito! So the best

46:50

thing about his Shetland pony. is

46:52

that your man would have no

46:54

idea how far away you were.

46:56

If you were racing a guy

46:58

on a normal-sized pony. Yeah, he

47:00

still think you were a mile

47:02

away. Hockey, hate you like, I've

47:04

got ages, bang, he's on the

47:06

ground. He's on the ground, you're

47:08

doing your victory dance over him.

47:10

His visor, you've taken off his

47:12

metal glove and slapped him. That's

47:14

a shallow ice, it was perfect.

47:16

Yeah, it's ring jousting, sadly enough.

47:18

Right, right. But like it's a

47:20

huge amount of scale in it.

47:22

So they still have loads of

47:24

ring tournaments. Of course, full gallop

47:26

through an 80-yard course towards suspended

47:28

rings. Right. And you have a

47:31

very long, fine-tipped lance. You've got

47:33

eight seconds to complete the course

47:35

and spear the rings scoring points

47:37

accordingly. Amazing. From three equally spaced

47:39

arches. rings are home 6 feet

47:41

9 inches above the ground and

47:43

range in diameter from a quarter

47:45

of an inch. No way. To

47:47

nearly 2 inches. That's amazing. Depending

47:49

on the skill level. So yeah,

47:51

they're into it and there's a

47:53

good few, there's several groups involved

47:55

in it. It's the amateur jousting

47:57

club of Maryland. There's the, of

47:59

course, based at Jerusalem Mill Village,

48:01

apparently, the Eastern Shore Jousting Association,

48:03

and the Western Maryland Jousting Club,

48:05

and they have Jousts from May

48:07

through October. That is brilliant. I

48:09

would never in a million years

48:11

have guessed jousting. I mean, as

48:13

you saw, because, I guess, so

48:15

tickling and other things, but yeah.

48:17

Can you imagine if you knew

48:19

it? Have you ever gone to,

48:21

you know, you go to the

48:24

US and you come across like

48:26

a Renaissance, as they would call

48:28

it, rather Renaissance, a Renaissance fair?

48:30

Yes, no I haven't. I've been

48:32

at one or two, very odd,

48:34

really. Very odd, some guy dressed

48:36

as Lorenzo de Medici, but like

48:38

with a California sort of baked

48:40

off his head slur, it's very

48:42

interesting. It's like, hey man, I'm

48:44

gonna invest most of my money

48:46

in public art, man. You're all

48:48

not gay! And is Cosmo to

48:50

the Medici? Is he okay with

48:52

that? Yeah man, he's over there

48:54

in his Volkswagen van. It's all

48:56

coming out of that. But people

48:58

are into it. And people of

49:00

Maryland are into it. Well, jousting.

49:02

Fair play to them. I mean,

49:04

I wish them the best in

49:06

the annual jousting competition. And my

49:08

last little fact, which is what

49:10

to do, what kind of... Well,

49:12

antiquity shall we say. It's about

49:14

the word curfew. Curfew. Yeah. You

49:17

like this because you love your

49:19

languages. I do love languages, I

49:21

love linguistic things, so hit me.

49:23

Okay. So a curfew, today obviously

49:25

kids be home by this time

49:27

or there's a curfew in the

49:29

streets or whatever, limits a group

49:31

of people from being outside their

49:33

homes past a certain time. The

49:35

original use of the word takes

49:37

back to the 14th century. A

49:39

curfew was a bell and it

49:41

said to people, lads, ladies, cover

49:43

your fires. Cover your fires. Yeah,

49:45

to protect your homes. Because if

49:47

you think about those kind of

49:49

medieval... homes are obviously rounding together

49:51

and in cities and towns and

49:53

villages. So what if one goes

49:55

up they're all in trouble? Yes,

49:57

yeah, absolutely. and they're built of

49:59

material that wouldn't withstand the volcanic

50:01

eruption or indeed a fire. So

50:03

in use since the 14th century,

50:05

it's the sounding of a bell

50:08

at evening time. The bell would

50:10

ring in order to alert people.

50:12

They should cover their harsh fires

50:14

for the evening. Right? Oh my God, I think

50:16

I've seen where this is going and

50:18

I'm about to have some kind of

50:20

a prison cell explosion. Okay. Prison cell

50:23

explosion has been explained by the

50:25

context of this show. If this was on

50:27

TV or radio and someone just came

50:29

along and heard you say prison cell

50:32

explosion, this will suggest that you're

50:34

walking around the prison hall and

50:36

the other forest. No, definitely not

50:38

that. So the word curfew shows

50:40

its roots as it comes from

50:42

the Anglo-French cover fé, which isn't

50:45

it. Fé, I was just, that's what

50:47

was getting me so excited was, few

50:49

was from fé, from fire. Which is

50:51

itself from the words, cover rear to

50:53

cover and fé, fé, fire. So main...

50:55

Cover your phone. Cover your fire, it's

50:57

cover your fire. Oh my God, Neil.

51:00

I knew he'd like that. Ah, that's

51:02

a fun thing. That's unreal. Top

51:04

workers always, Delaware. Thanks very

51:06

much. I enjoyed that. Yeah,

51:09

that was fun. I mean, we

51:11

got a lot of innuendo in

51:13

there. We got weird, sexy animal

51:15

noises. I expect we're going to

51:17

get a lot of emails from

51:19

the national bird protection

51:21

people. That's definitely, it'll be. Yeah. Don't forget

51:24

if you want to communicate with the show,

51:26

we love any manner whatsoever, but the best

51:28

way is of course a five-star review, followed

51:30

by some class of written communication therein. So

51:33

keep them coming in because we did them

51:35

last week and they were absolutely amazing. We'll

51:37

do them again a few weeks when we

51:39

get some more. But thank you very much

51:42

as always. Thank you to Neil Delamare and we'll

51:44

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