11AM: Dame Time!

11AM: Dame Time!

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0:23

We need to get to

0:25

our guy Justin Garcia Because

0:27

it is Dame time tonight

0:29

for game two of the

0:31

Bucks series With the Indiana

0:33

Pacers all right touch to

0:35

put a bow on this

0:37

so we can get to

0:39

JG I Think it Jesse

0:41

correct me if I'm wrong

0:43

because I don't have access

0:46

to the YouTube comments for

0:48

whatever reason and I don't have

0:50

car bliss talking text line in front of

0:52

me It feels

0:54

as if most Packer

0:56

fans are Team Jason on

0:58

this. Is that fair? Yes.

1:01

I think most Packers fans

1:03

our team Jason many

1:05

are pointing out Jason's very

1:07

Appropriate critique of Goody while still saying

1:09

he wants him as the G I'm

1:11

not spend the unanimous theme from the

1:13

majority of what I should say unanimous

1:16

the majority theme from what I've seen

1:18

sure fan feedback Which is interesting to

1:20

me because I think a year maybe

1:22

two years ago There were

1:24

many more fans who would be on your side

1:26

of this conversation, Taush, where many were in

1:28

support of Goody, and how gutsy it was to

1:30

move on from Aaron Rodgers, and it worked

1:32

out, and everything he touches turns to gold. That

1:35

narrative has definitely changed, and

1:37

you've remained rather steadfast compared

1:39

to others in still your strong

1:41

support of him. Do

1:44

you trust him? Do

1:46

you trust Goody this weekend? That

1:49

this is going to be a better football team?

1:51

Because of what he does this weekend

1:53

do you trust him Jesse? Yes,

2:00

I trust him, but I

2:02

Wouldn't I don't have

2:04

blind faith. How about that?

2:07

Okay, but yes overall I

2:09

trust him to do the

2:11

right thing for the team

2:13

Okay It's kind of hedgy

2:15

sorry yeah, no everything's hedgy

2:18

and And part of it

2:20

is Jason's right. I mean

2:22

this is a nuanced conversation

2:24

and I know he doesn't

2:26

like predicting and doesn't like

2:28

doing I get all of

2:30

that but There comes a

2:33

point where you just look

2:35

at it and say has

2:37

he built a roster that

2:39

is good because The playoffs

2:41

we all know stuff happens

2:43

you have good teams. I

2:46

Think general managers build their

2:48

roster To try

2:50

and win a championship and the

2:52

best way to do that

2:54

is to have a great regular

2:57

season and then be ready

2:59

to roll when you get there

3:01

and have Young talent that

3:03

develops and is better at the

3:05

end and then some veterans

3:07

that know the game and the

3:09

in critical spots that are

3:11

going to get it done and

3:13

Jason said well he didn't

3:15

want a championship yet That's the

3:18

ultimate trump card That's what

3:20

you're judged on and why why

3:22

that is the case. There's

3:24

a lot of reasons But you've

3:26

had some really good opportunities

3:28

That there were plenty of players

3:30

that had played better than

3:32

what they did Including our old

3:34

MVP quarterback on that cold

3:36

night against San Fran That it

3:39

didn't happen and all you

3:41

need is one And

3:43

you get your name and

3:45

up at the stadium and

3:47

you get a road named

3:49

after you get and it

3:51

hadn't happened for Matt LaFleur

3:53

either So it is complicated.

3:55

I think Goody's last couple

3:57

of drafts There's a lot

3:59

of question marks because they

4:01

got put in a position

4:03

where they had a reload

4:05

after a All -in you

4:07

don't want to call it

4:09

that it's what it was

4:11

That's what they did And

4:14

to reload and have seven

4:16

seed seven seed Great look

4:18

at it and against San

4:20

Francisco and then last year

4:22

was disappointing no doubt That's

4:24

why I it's not blind

4:26

faith. It's looking at what

4:28

has happened And it's been

4:30

pretty doggone good And a

4:32

perfect anybody perfect in that

4:34

business But it's been pretty

4:36

good and For people to

4:38

they should have blind trust no no

4:40

no verify and if you don't and

4:42

you have a bad season Then you

4:44

have to start making decisions based on

4:46

what you're seeing it can't just be

4:48

well I try I like him But

4:50

he got it at some point you

4:52

have to make you gotta it's gotta

4:55

happen And if it doesn't we're gonna

4:57

be looking at 16 seasons Where there's

4:59

not a championship going through title time

5:01

as I kept listening to you guys

5:03

debate this the thing I kept coming

5:05

back to real quick is Don't

5:07

the phrase don't let good be

5:09

the enemy of great You've said that

5:11

before I think Tosh. That's been

5:13

one of your things and right now

5:16

I think Goody and LaFleur has

5:18

been really good But it hasn't been

5:20

great because they haven't gotten to

5:22

a Super Bowl and that's the thing

5:24

that I keep coming back to

5:26

is I wrestle with this like Goody's

5:28

been really good. Everything's been good,

5:30

but seven seed Winning one game in

5:32

the play like that's all good

5:34

like that's sustainable, but it's not great

5:37

And if we think everyone on this roster

5:39

is capable of being great, then what

5:41

they've assembled is not good enough. So

5:43

last thing so we can get to

5:45

JG. Yesterday, Goody,

5:47

one of the things that I really enjoyed,

5:49

and I hope tomorrow we have some

5:51

time to go through some of the stuff

5:53

he talked about, because I thought he

5:55

was really interesting on a number of things

5:57

yesterday. Now, I thought

6:00

his answer about RAS scores was interesting

6:02

because he claimed that they don't

6:04

use them. But then, if you listened

6:06

to the full answer, he basically

6:08

said they have their own version of

6:10

RAS scores. He said he never

6:12

heard of it. But

6:15

we use analytics that measures all yes,

6:17

yes goodies athletic scores, right? So so

6:19

that was part of it I want

6:21

to get to that But he he

6:23

went through a party was asked about John

6:25

Eric Sullivan who interviewed for multiple GM

6:27

jobs didn't get them He's back with

6:29

the team if they were to be the

6:31

sixth seed and win and not win

6:33

a playoff game They punch out lose

6:35

to the three seed And

6:38

you know this, because he went

6:41

through it. He talked about Schneider and

6:43

Mackenzie and Dorsey and Scott McLuhan,

6:45

all these guys, Elliott Wolf, all these

6:47

guys that were there and now

6:49

have been GMs or are currently GM

6:51

-ish, right? Is

6:53

it possible that as John Eric Sullivan,

6:55

one of his best friends in the

6:57

world, one of his

6:59

right hand men along with Milt

7:02

Hendrickson, the pride of Peccatonica

7:04

Argyle, Is it possible that

7:06

both of them are sitting there

7:08

and maybe sometimes Goody does things or

7:10

doesn't do things that they would

7:12

do, right? Being in the

7:14

second chair or the third chair, you

7:16

know, if you're the offensive coordinator, maybe there's

7:18

times when Steno's like, God, I would have called

7:20

this there and Matt called this, right? And

7:22

it's not being a jerk about it. It's just

7:24

you have your own ideas and your own

7:26

opinions. You're a different person. I

7:29

do wonder if

7:31

somehow There were

7:33

people in the building or Ed

7:35

policy taking over and having a

7:37

preference if they would change their

7:39

GM by just moving on from

7:41

the current one and putting one

7:43

of those lieutenants in charge instead.

7:45

That's largely what happened with Ted,

7:47

right? Goody was one of his

7:49

right hand men and then they

7:51

gave Goody ultimately got the job. I'm

7:54

not advocating. Then you got Russ Ball fired

7:56

before you got him hired. Well,

7:58

I would say Mike McCarthy and

8:01

Aaron Rodgers did I was just

8:03

the vessel for that information But

8:05

yes, whatever my the point my

8:07

point is is that I don't

8:09

think Goody has done a poor

8:12

job So don't put me in

8:14

that category. He does not need

8:16

to be fired. Don't put me

8:18

in that category my critique of

8:20

him is There may be one

8:22

or two moves because every GM

8:25

misses on picks Everyone

8:27

does. Even the greats. Ron Wolf is in

8:29

the Hall of Fame. He missed on plenty. Maybe

8:31

there have been one or two moves that

8:34

would have made the difference between being in

8:36

a Super Bowl and not. I don't know

8:38

that. There are certainly some

8:40

coaching decisions that may or may not

8:42

have been the difference between being in a

8:44

Super Bowl or not. There

8:46

are certainly some plays made by the

8:48

quarterback that were the difference in being

8:50

in a Super Bowl or not. And

8:52

my only argument is, we can't just say

8:54

it's the coach and we can't just say

8:57

it's the quarterback. We have to acknowledge that

8:59

the general manager could have done something different,

9:01

too. They all could have done something different.

9:03

So there wouldn't be this 15 -year drought

9:05

in between Super Bowl appearances. I

9:07

think that's fairly reasonable. All I would

9:09

say, all I would say that is a

9:11

very reasonable and I think nuanced talk.

9:13

And I agree with you with the exception

9:16

of 2020. There is

9:18

nothing that Brian Goodykins did have done. That

9:20

would have that would have cured

9:22

what happened there other than keeping David

9:24

bacteria out of practice and not

9:26

blowing his knee out. Hmm. That's it

9:28

That team was a championship team

9:30

built by Brian Gudekunst and Sometimes luck

9:33

just is a part of it,

9:35

too There is nothing he did everything

9:37

you would have wanted him to

9:39

do that season to put that team

9:41

in position They should have won

9:43

they didn't and so goes the old

9:45

fart and the wind conversation that

9:47

Ron Wolf had It does come

9:50

back to us. There is luck that is involved

9:52

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9:54

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9:56

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I'm sure. Our

10:39

Bucks buddy joins us next to

10:41

talk Dame Time and Playoff Time. It's

10:43

Will The Entouch. 14

11:12

minutes late. We

11:14

get to our Bucks buddy. And

11:17

game two of the first

11:19

round playoff series between the Bucks

11:21

and the Indiana Pacers. Wonder

11:24

if he's got an intense

11:26

rivalry with the Indiana announcers.

11:29

It is Justin Garcia on Will

11:31

The Untouched. JG, how you doing? Good

11:35

guys, how about you? I have that

11:37

same on -air sign up above our

11:39

little studio here. I don't have quite

11:41

as cool about that. gonna say hats?

11:43

Like, wow. No, no. Grateful dead. I

11:45

know you're a fan. Pearl

11:47

Jam ahead of Grateful Dead or Grateful Dead ahead

11:49

of Pearl Jam for you? Oh,

11:52

man. I think

11:54

they're neck and neck. Oh,

11:57

yeah. What are you, me? Well,

12:01

when I was a teenager and

12:03

like... in the 90s not to

12:05

date myself, but just coming into

12:07

my own as a youth Pearl

12:09

Jam was was my band and

12:11

like begging my parents to take

12:13

me to see them at summerfest

12:15

and I saw a few other

12:17

times the song of the last

12:19

show at the Bradley Center, so

12:21

They're probably my number one group

12:23

of grateful dead is who I

12:25

listen to the most hmm. Okay.

12:27

That's an interesting Way to divine

12:29

that answer Dame

12:31

is back back again. Dame

12:33

is back. Tell us why

12:36

this is so great our

12:38

friend Not bad Thanks, we'll see

12:40

is because so here's the

12:42

thing it helps you immensely

12:44

I think when you look

12:46

at the usage in game one

12:48

and what the Pacers strategy

12:50

was was we kind of

12:52

wondered How do you approach

12:54

this do you say? We'll

12:57

give Giannis anything he wants. We'll take away

12:59

the shooters, and we're going to help on those

13:01

guys. And what? What do

13:03

you do here if you're Indiana? And

13:05

they just made Giannis work and said, we're

13:07

not going to give him those outlets.

13:09

If he scores 40, he scores 40. Bucks

13:11

aren't hitting threes. Damian Lillard

13:13

helps you change that gravity and gives you more

13:15

trusted shooters, especially in those minutes where you

13:18

have other guys that are going through shooting struggles.

13:20

We know the Pacers are going to sag off

13:22

and dare guys like Kyle Kuzma to take

13:25

shots. You're not going to do that to Damian

13:27

Lillard. So in that sense, it helps quite

13:29

a bit. But I would just caution too, it

13:31

has been 35 days since we've seen

13:33

Damian Lillard play in a basketball game.

13:35

It is one thing to be in

13:37

shape. It's another thing to

13:40

be in game shape and especially game

13:42

shape that goes up a level in

13:44

the playoffs. I mean, it's remarkable in

13:46

itself. that a guy is back

13:48

after 35 days from blood clot. So

13:50

I do think we need to temper

13:52

the expectations that this isn't just a

13:54

dame is here to save us and

13:56

he's going to score 40. So

14:01

how much you think, how

14:03

much limited, what is he

14:05

going to be limited wise? Is it going

14:07

to be 20 minutes? No, I'm

14:09

not doing my pride. I can't put JJ

14:11

in that spot. 21 and a half minutes.

14:15

I mean, how much are you

14:17

expecting him to play tonight

14:19

with the conditions you just laid

14:21

out? I know he's been

14:23

practicing a little bit, but serious

14:25

injury, 35 days. It's not

14:27

going to be a full freight

14:29

tonight for him, even though

14:31

it's obviously a critical game in

14:33

this series. I

14:36

wouldn't assume. I mean, I always kind

14:38

of felt once we started to learn

14:40

more and more. And

14:43

last week when we got the news, he's

14:45

cleared and he's gonna return at some point

14:47

in this series. I always assumed it would

14:49

be game two because of the breaks that

14:51

you had in that series where you get

14:54

two days off between one and two, you

14:56

get another two days off between today and

14:58

game three. I would, just

15:00

to play it safe, I would assume

15:02

he's around 25 or so minutes. I'm not

15:04

sure if you start him. I

15:07

haven't heard anything from guys that

15:09

were at practice earlier today and what

15:11

it looked like there so I'm

15:13

still curious to see do you kind

15:15

of manage his minutes in that

15:17

sense and bring him off the bench

15:19

to pick those lineups you have

15:21

him on the floor with because I

15:23

think the big takeaway from game

15:25

one is at some point you do

15:27

have to heavily consider some type

15:29

of change to the starting lineup and

15:31

I think even beyond Damian Lillard

15:33

because That may complicate things even

15:35

more with your defensive matchups. I'm not trying

15:37

to say you're better off not having Dane,

15:39

but I think once you reinsert him into

15:42

the starting lineup, I do think you have

15:44

to reevaluate the guys playing next to him

15:46

because of who's taking on who. And you're

15:48

playing Kyle Kuzma and Tori and Prince out

15:50

of position. So I do wonder if you

15:52

kind of wait to pull all this out

15:54

at once and you bring him off the

15:56

bench and then you unveil a new lineup

15:59

in game three. Or if you

16:01

just rip the band -aid off now and say, we're going

16:03

to watch your minutes, you're starting, and we'll try to keep

16:05

it around this number. So what

16:07

do you think, JG? What would you do if

16:09

you were in charge? Coach JG. expect? Yeah,

16:12

what do you think? You obviously have something on your

16:14

mind. What do you think? Well,

16:19

knowing Dane and knowing that most

16:21

times when I've tried to make

16:24

some type of prediction with this team

16:27

this season. I have been wrong. I'll

16:29

say that he does in fact start

16:31

this game. And I

16:33

think, and it's not just Doc Rivers.

16:35

And that's kind of in the

16:37

tiring discourse around this team is like,

16:39

well, Doc Rivers doesn't play young

16:41

guys or doesn't make adjustments. And the

16:43

whole tiresome argument over starters. I

16:45

mean, I will acknowledge the starting lineup

16:47

struggle quite a bit in game

16:49

one. And by the numbers, They've

16:51

not been your best five -man groupie,

16:53

but it is more important who closes

16:55

games and who is playing more minutes. And

16:58

that thing, you can't make an argument against

17:00

Doc Rivers. He has played his best players more

17:02

minutes. I think you can maybe say, do

17:04

you need to look into more minutes for some

17:06

of those guys? Sure. But that's the big

17:08

thing for me. And knowing that, and again, not

17:10

just Doc, most other coaches, you're

17:12

not going to full -on panic after one

17:14

game and say, we got to change everything

17:16

here. So I would assume They

17:18

keep it as is for now, and it's

17:21

just Damian Lillard starting in place of Ryan

17:23

Rollins for game number two. But, you know,

17:25

we'll see if that solves the spacing for

17:27

Yanis and gives him another shooter that's out

17:29

there and limits some of the things Indiana

17:31

is able to do. Or if we see

17:33

more of the same, and then you have

17:35

to really consider, do we need more changes

17:37

than this? It's a tough

17:39

break for Ryan Rollins, Taush's favorite buck.

17:43

Wow. You gave him a nickname

17:45

that I didn't recognize. Ah, Coos! Not

17:48

great. Not great, Bob, on

17:50

Saturday. And you heard Doc say, well, I

17:52

got to get him more involved. Bup,

17:54

bup, bup, bup, bup. Where are we at

17:56

with Kuzma as far as he obviously

17:58

needs to be better than what we saw?

18:02

Yeah, I think that's correct. He's

18:05

got to be better than that. And

18:07

dynamite drop, Monty. I

18:10

do think there's a lot to what

18:12

Doc said, too, that there are moments

18:14

where you can look at what Indiana

18:16

was doing. I mean, what Yanis drew

18:18

10 fouls in the first half, I

18:20

think it was, and you could see

18:22

midway through the first quarter, he

18:24

was attacking and he was getting to the

18:26

line, but he was gassed. And that was part

18:28

of Indiana's strategy is we don't trust the

18:30

other guys, make Yanis take

18:33

that on. And not only does

18:35

that help us defensively, It hurts

18:37

the Bucks defensively because it takes

18:39

away from Yanis' defensive ability. But

18:41

I think you've got to look for more

18:43

minutes to get Kyle Kuzma going off the curl

18:45

screens, get him attacking and going down the

18:47

floor. You know, Indiana is

18:49

going to give him any shot that he wants

18:51

in terms of a jump shot. So you've got

18:53

to look for other ways to get the ball

18:56

in his hands and get Kyle Kuzma attacking, not

18:58

only to get him going, but to get Yanis

19:00

a bit of a rest offensively. Talking

19:03

with Justin Garcia our Bucks buddy

19:05

ahead of game two tonight in

19:08

the Bucks series with the Indiana

19:10

Pacers If Damien Lillard is Damien

19:12

Lillard are the Bucks a better

19:14

team than the Pacers? Well,

19:19

I picked the Bucks to win

19:21

the series and I still think

19:23

the Bucks are going to win

19:25

this series They're very close and

19:27

that was coming into this series.

19:29

Why I think that was on

19:31

an island saying You

19:33

know, I think regardless of what happened in

19:35

the regular season, I think I'd rather

19:37

have the Knicks than the Pacers. We've kind

19:39

of quietly ignored how good the Indiana

19:41

Pacers have been since losing to the Bucks

19:43

where they blew a, what, 17 point

19:45

lead on New Year's Eve. They

19:47

have been one of the best teams in basketball

19:50

since January 1st. And their offense is not to

19:52

the levels it was a season ago. Their

19:54

defense is much improved. So

19:56

I think the Pacers are

19:58

a deeper team with more

20:00

trusted host season players

20:03

on their roster than the Bucks. But

20:06

I think Giannis makes up for a whole lot

20:08

in the series. And to your point, if Damian

20:10

Lillard is there, I would give

20:12

the Bucks a slight edge over the Pacers

20:14

in terms of who is the better

20:16

team. But I think these two teams are

20:18

close when healthy. All

20:20

right, Justin, the times

20:23

that we do talk Bucks,

20:25

we seem to devolve

20:27

into the concerns about the

20:29

future. Especially if

20:31

they lose this series all I

20:33

want to know Because we're not

20:35

gonna be able to predict the

20:37

future right now today on April

20:39

22nd But as someone who has

20:41

been around this team for a

20:43

very long time who is an

20:45

expert on this team Are you

20:47

worried at any level? Defcon

20:50

one Defcon five where I always

20:52

get those mixed up. I think Defcon

20:54

one is the worst about

20:57

the future of the organization

20:59

and the future with or

21:01

without the Greek freak if

21:03

they lose this series. Because

21:06

I think there are fans

21:08

of our show and perhaps

21:10

a host of our show

21:12

that at least have some

21:14

level of concern that if

21:17

this goes poorly, we

21:19

could be witnessing the end

21:21

of an era. Do you have

21:23

those concerns or not really? I

21:27

mean, it's not anything that keeps me

21:30

up at night. It's I'm not oblivious to

21:32

it. What does keep you up? Garbage

21:36

doesn't come that gets

21:38

probably keeps you up Good

21:40

one. Not so much

21:42

that just if there's garbage

21:44

around the house and

21:47

having to deal with that.

21:49

Yeah No, I

21:51

mean, I don't if this isn't a

21:53

cop -out answer, but I don't choose

21:55

to go through life waiting for

21:57

the worst case scenario and assuming that's the

21:59

case. I mean, to your point, that discourse

22:01

has been out there, but I would also

22:03

say, we don't have to engage

22:06

with it. You don't have to deal with the

22:08

conjecture. Yeah, Jason. Yeah, that's a

22:10

good point. Does this mean Janice going to leave?

22:13

Click, baby. And look, I

22:15

get it. It's not from afar.

22:17

If you lose in the first

22:19

round three straight years, we know

22:21

this is a player movement league.

22:24

that that's the natural assumption to

22:26

me. But for whatever reason, that's

22:29

been the assumption made with Yanis more

22:31

than any other player out there. If

22:33

Nikola Jokic and the Nuggets lose in

22:36

the first round after having just fired their

22:38

coach a month ago and have serious

22:40

health concerns about Jamal Murray going forward, wondering

22:42

about some of the secondary guys, and

22:44

are these guys good enough? Are they to

22:46

the level they lived two years ago,

22:48

similar to things the Bucks dealt with? Are

22:51

we discussing Nikola Jokic asking for a

22:53

trade to leave the Denver Nuggets? I haven't

22:55

heard any of that. So I don't

22:57

know why it sticks to Yanis. I mean,

22:59

I get losing in the first round

23:01

three years in a row versus losing the

23:03

first round once is a different argument.

23:06

But there's other things that have happened with

23:08

other teams that that would be my

23:10

piece of advice is, yes, it could happen.

23:12

Most anything could happen. But

23:14

I don't choose to spend my time.

23:17

Wondering and worry. Yeah, Luca who saw that

23:19

coming, but that's it's no good to

23:21

the box Is this the last game?

23:23

I'm gonna see you honest playing a buck's

23:25

uniform like who wants to live like

23:27

that? Nobody Jason does

23:30

they keeps asking about

23:32

it. All right. It

23:34

is well you did

23:36

Tonight I must win

23:38

No, you're must win

23:40

is when you face

23:42

elimination Yeah, I'll

23:44

stop that if the Lakers lose

23:46

to the Timberwolves tonight. It's over It

23:48

is no it's not over. It

23:51

is not over. The Lakers still have

23:53

the best player in that series

23:55

It's not over there and is it

23:57

don't shit. The other thing is

23:59

look it's Let him speak. It's certainly

24:01

not ideal to fall down two

24:03

games to none But you come back

24:05

home. It's a much different story

24:08

to lose your first two games on

24:10

the home floor and then go

24:12

on the road. So it's not great.

24:14

It's a big hole to dig

24:16

out of, but it's not a must

24:18

win tonight. OK. JG,

24:21

sorry we got to you late. Thanks

24:23

for always making us smarter when you

24:25

come on the show. We

24:27

appreciate you, buddy. Have a good one. You

24:29

guys. That is Justin

24:31

Garcia. You can hear him on the

24:33

radio network. What now? What

24:38

was it, 19 and a half points?

24:40

Yeah, 19 and a half on prize

24:42

picks. It seems like a lot. I

24:46

think Halliburton will bounce back and have

24:48

a big, bigger game. All

24:50

right, I got a little smarter. I

24:52

feel like a little bit smarter from

24:54

that. Although Jason, trying to go

24:56

off clickbait is the honestest. The honestest last

24:58

series is a buck. You

25:01

can see JG shot that down quicker. And you

25:03

could say, well, you know what? Yeah,

25:06

I'm the one on the

25:08

panel who brings that up.

25:10

It's dame time. It's dame

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25:14

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not even sure we have enough time for

26:30

Woe Nelly. But if

26:32

we do, here it is. If

26:37

the topic is good, the guys discuss.

26:39

Just three other morning, I had breakfast

26:41

at Tracey Rocco's house. His mama brought

26:43

out 15 floodgates. She said, mama, take

26:45

back five of them floodgates. They go,

26:47

stay hungry for the crimson god. But

26:49

if it's not, the show must go

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on. It's time for Woe Nelly on

26:53

Will Thee and Taush. Beck

26:56

and I finished a show eight

26:58

episode mini -series last night on Netflix

27:00

called The Residence It's a murder mystery

27:02

show and it's one of Tom

27:04

movie. No, it's one of those like

27:06

fun murder mysteries like there's some

27:08

language in it So it's not entirely

27:10

suitable for like all ages, but

27:12

it's really good very well done. You

27:14

have to pay attention to everything I

27:17

will assert the murder mystery that's

27:19

like the fun murder mystery like that.

27:21

Clue? Yeah, it's very clue -like,

27:23

yes. It takes place at the White

27:25

House, and so like all the

27:28

different rooms, they call it the blue

27:30

room, the red room, the yellow

27:32

room, and it's like, what's the

27:34

murder? It's very clue -like. I

27:36

think the quirky fun murder mystery is

27:38

the greatest genre of any TV shows

27:40

or movies. No, you don't. Yes, I

27:42

do. You got a prisoner of the

27:45

moment. No, I love them. I love

27:47

that one. I love Murder on the

27:49

Orient Express. Blacklist. Only murder in the

27:51

building. Blacklist is good, but that's also,

27:53

like, it keeps you guessing all along.

27:55

It's a little different. That's my favorite

27:57

show of all time, but I think

27:59

the best genre is the fun murder

28:01

mystery. Tell me

28:03

I'm wrong. I think you like... I think

28:05

comedy is the best, and I think that's what

28:07

you think, too. No, I'd

28:09

actually put comedy pretty low. Okay,

28:12

I like dramas more than comedies, but

28:15

I love the drama who done it

28:17

trying to figure it out like sitting

28:19

there Becker hates it when I'm like

28:21

guessing when I pause the show like

28:23

I think it's the butler now I

28:25

think this is how he did it

28:27

like just play the problem with that

28:29

is listen man I'm not gonna tell

28:32

you what you should like and what

28:34

you should you just told him what

28:36

he does like and what I know

28:38

I and then I backed off because

28:40

Jesse I think Jesse believes that in

28:42

his heart of hearts but You get

28:44

no character development in those shows. None.

28:48

It's a one and done, and then it's over. Which

28:51

is fine, but give me

28:53

character development in comedy. No,

28:57

there's more character development

28:59

in dramas. Which

29:01

is, I like a good drama. I

29:03

like a good comedy. These are

29:05

kitschy. I love murder mystery parties. We

29:07

used to do murder mystery parties a

29:09

couple times a year. They're fun. We're

29:11

doing one for the Hall of Fame

29:13

They were still working on putting ours

29:16

together. But that

29:18

doesn't mean that's

29:20

my favorite genre. It

29:23

just doesn't. So no,

29:25

I'm going to disagree vehemently with you. On

29:28

what you like. He

29:30

didn't tell me what to like

29:32

he told me what he knows

29:34

I like yeah That was a

29:36

unique twist on not telling me

29:38

how to think That was a

29:40

new one for wonnelly I can

29:42

tell you this I like David

29:44

Gruber and I like that they

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support our show at Gruber Law

29:48

Offices and I hope that you

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never actually have to call him

29:53

and his team and make that

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one call that's all because that

29:57

means you haven't been injured in

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an accident but if you have

30:01

been injured you need the best

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team in the business on your

30:05

side to make sure you get

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what you deserve. So make the

30:09

call. One call that's all four

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That's all go to the website

30:21

grouper -law .com to find out more.

30:23

We'll wrap up today's show. We're

30:25

not playing End of show trivia.

30:27

Oh We're not doing it. We're

30:29

gonna do double Wisconsin geography trivia

30:31

tomorrow triple tomorrow probably draft coming

30:33

up. Oh boy Okay,

30:37

captain. We'll

30:40

wrap things up next. It's Will

30:42

The Attouch. We're on the Packers.

30:45

You still want to see that steady

30:47

play, that steady improvement, and you didn't

30:49

get it from Jordan Love? Because we're

30:51

on Wisconsin Sports. That just makes the

30:53

stakes that much higher this season. Nobody

30:55

covers the green and gold like 100

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.5 ESPN. Our

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guy Alex Strofe is

31:16

live from the Tundra trio

31:18

coming up next and

31:21

will be so all week

31:23

long. I was up

31:25

on the fifth floor at Lambeau, which

31:27

I think the last time I was way

31:29

up there was when you and Ryan

31:31

Longwell posed for pictures for your Hall of

31:33

Fame induction and we did a little

31:35

press conference. But you got

31:37

a great view from above almost like

31:39

being in a on like a

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drone being able to see how Amazing

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the setup is gonna be at

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our tundra trio for all the ESPN

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31:51

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31:53

next. That's why I didn't want to

31:55

get into trivia and not start

31:57

his show until 1210 So that's it

31:59

for today. I I mean it

32:01

called Mr. Relevant I gonna

32:04

play a little trivia with God I

32:06

if he'll whether Brian

32:08

Gudekund be fired or not on

32:10

his program. That's it for

32:12

us today. We will do it again tomorrow.

32:14

Have a great day. Take care. Be good.

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