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thanks for meeting with me today

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i can tell you're nervous don't be

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this is a formality it

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was a quiet afternoon at base with

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the rest of the group seemingly having gone

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home for the evening the sun

1:53

through the windows illuminated the dust particles

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in the living room the mood was warm

1:57

and sleepy present situation

1:59

standing and was right

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from as per usual i was nervous

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i felt my jaw clenching and made a conscious

2:07

effort to relaxes though it clinched

2:09

again as soon as i stopped paying attention to

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it and was collected

2:13

and prepared and simultaneously

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relaxed like a star pupil confidently

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giving a presentation they know that they did a perfect

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job on sometimes i could feel

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myself tense up when she was that

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put together he reminded

2:27

me of tie better rage in those moments superficially

2:30

through no fault of her own of course this

2:33

demeanor was a tool and they were both

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using this tool but two different

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ends we sat on

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opposite sides of the coffee table which

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had folder spread across it's entire surface

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i took a sip of my coffee it was black

2:46

and bitter my throat so little

2:48

scratchy today can i get some

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honey for this i asked scratchy

2:53

from practicing the michael voice

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she asked

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how

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there you i slammed my

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coffee cup on the table well i didn't

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slam it because i didn't wanna get coffee everywhere

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but i sat it down as hard as i could

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so the bit didn't really work but at least

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i tried and i had been practicing

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the michael voice but only because mike didn't

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know how to do the michael voice and it almost got him

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into hot water in one of the missions and

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edgar likes the cowboys

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but and doesn't need to know any of this regardless

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i'm pretty sure we're out of honey and replied

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oh and why's that is it because we're so far

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in the future that all the bees are extinct

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i asked and last nice

3:35

dry mikey boy said since it's funny

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not going to rule it out though she winked

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at me you could be at any time

3:42

past present or future it's important

3:44

that you don't know for the sake of the stability

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of this conversation the for

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the interview i had looked around living

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room in the base in whatever time i was

3:53

currently in it looked remarkably

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like the living room i was used to lounging around

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in when there wasn't work to be done the

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same television same couches

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same table all of which didn't

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look any worse for wear the

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same picture of the whole base of the corrections

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party that establish this version of the base

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everyone still alive reality

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still being the one that i was familiar with

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i didn't think that she had move me far from my native

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time of course

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i replied but can you at least

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tommy which an you are nope

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can't do that either she replied for

4:28

the same reasons anyone who would want to

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intervene in this conversation would have to figure

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out which and to compromise i

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squinted at her knowing ahead of time that

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i wasn't going to be able to tell the difference

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my an and the and sent from her organization

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weren't like myself mike and michael

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they were similar to the point of being

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indiscernible from one another they

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didn't have conveniently placed facial

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scars like the hunters they didn't

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go by separate name's they

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were both an they saw

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themselves as the same person i

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disagreed there had been more

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mike walters is than i could keep track of at this

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point i'd watched some of them die

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i knew that others had died and

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didn't physically affect me it

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didn't affect the mike's and latvia the came after

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me they weren't connected in the same

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way that the past is connected to the present

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and the present is connected to the future

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the mike's we're all different people

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from my perspective which meant that

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the and had to be different people to

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even if i could always tell them apart and

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are you aware of the reason for these interviews

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and asked she wrote something down on her

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notebook i know that you are because

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you are present for the vin citing incident but

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as a formality i'm just going to the checklist

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like i'm going to with everyone here the first

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interview so this is also a little bit of a practice

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run someone

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killed elder hunter and we have

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to figure out who it is before the hunters figure

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out that it happened i said ding

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ding ding we have a winner she replied

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do you think the these interviews are gonna work

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almost every one it current basis from this time

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and the murder presumably happens in the future

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i said well without letting on

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too much she said this is part

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of a multi pronged approach to the situation

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we are not the only group trying to figure this out

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though the other and i

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replied no more for me even

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when i said is too much she replied it

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you could figure that out i think through

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the interviews and this present might not result

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in figuring out what happened it

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could give us a more holistic snapshot

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of the entire events if we can

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get a good idea of what the circumstances might

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be than that would be a good start and

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least yeah that makes sense

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i said oh into i

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didn't kill elder hunter so artist

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to get that out of the way the

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and smirked oh you're saying you

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didn't kill him well as he say so than

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i guess we can just skip right over that question

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ha i'm not getting look getting

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actually wrote it down as the first question did

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you kill elder hunter me no and gonna

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say yes but that's silly what i look if they

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would have said yes and i didn't ask they

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are point especially with me there's

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a chance that if it had been me than i would

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have just told you i said there's

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a good chance you would have she said moving

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along out here's a mike specific question

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what do you recall about the night in question

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the elder hunter incident if you

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will let's see

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edgar and i were watching i'm thinking of ending

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things a so my can never watch again

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elder hunter fell into the cabin around

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nine pm a he was already dead when

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he got there from there there are

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two realities that i remember

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one where i called punish hunter and he told

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me to kill edgar to keep him from talking

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i tried to send elder hunter away to the

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over security program but punish hunter

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found me ruff me up on knocks

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me out and set me back to my cabin

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and sent edgar to mesa arizona

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i guess to buy me some time

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and to keep edgar from talking

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and

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the other reality which i guess

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is this one are you and me showed

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up to the cabin and told my keen edgar to

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mind their own business and to

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never mentioned this to any hunter for

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any reason and then we moved

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elder hunter using the calculator though

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just the events that we corrected and

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us doing the correction itself she

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asked of

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course yeah just the two what do you mean

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i asked though you don't remember

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any other innovations of that event she

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asked

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no i squinted at

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her

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are there other interactions of that

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events that's not

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for me to disclose she said

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are you saying that because you don't know

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or because you do know and the answer is

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yes is asked from

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there from there two realities that i

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remember one where i called

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punish hunter and he told me to kill edgar

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to keep him from talking i

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tried to send elder hunter a waste of the over

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security program but punish hunter found

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me ruff me up on knocked me

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out and set me back to my cabin

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and sent edgar tube mesa arizona

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i guess to buy me some time

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and to keep edgar from talking in

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the other reality which i guess is

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this one are you and me showed up to the

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cabin and told my keen edgar to

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mind their own business and to

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never mention this to any hunter for

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any reason and then we moved

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elder hunter using the calculator though

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just the events that we corrected and

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us doing the correction itself she

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asked of

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course yeah just the two what do you mean

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i asked though you don't remember

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any other innovations of that event she

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asked

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no

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granted at her are there

9:44

other interactions of that event that's

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not for me to disclose she

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said are you saying that

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because you don't know or because

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you do know and the answer is yes

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is asked you have successfully

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pinpointed what i'm closing

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she replied you know having

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recounted that night for the first time in some

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time some of those details

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do feel like the hunters issuing corrections

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issuing corrections hunter didn't

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kill edgar even though he clearly wanted

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to he knew where to find me

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and he kept me from using the security program

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with who knows what happens if he hadn't done that

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so they were probably more than two ways

10:23

that night played out but , sounds

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like a question from michael if anyone

10:27

remembers than it's him i said said

10:30

got about ten completely different realities

10:32

under his belt from what i can tell i'll

10:35

ask him in his interview next week by

10:37

the way you know why he said he wasn't

10:39

available to the interview until next week she

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asked he didn't say anything

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to me i said i don't see

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what reason he would have it's not like he's doing

10:48

anything else anything else that

10:50

we're allowed to know about and corrected

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me you would do well to remember

10:55

that he's not a member of your base

10:57

he's a member of base ten years from now

10:59

he takes orders from them first not

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us and that base works him on

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s r t so if something is going to take

11:06

a week then he'll be busy for we the

11:08

area srt there's new

11:11

lingo i asked simulated

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real time as in if a job takes two hours

11:15

and when you come back it'll be two hours later we already

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do this she said i picked

11:20

it up from an right

11:23

you picked it up from an end

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you aren't the other am sure

11:28

and given

11:30

it like a brady bunch and made an important point

11:32

i sometimes sounded too easy to forget

11:34

that mike and michael weren't working with us

11:37

first and foremost they were issuing

11:39

corrections and those corrections of course had to

11:41

be handed down by a later it ration of

11:43

the base with a better vantage points

11:45

and we had that was the entire

11:47

reason that they were here and by here

11:49

i do mean latvia i visited

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with my coffee cup nervously michael

11:54

has been acting suspiciously

11:57

or i suppose more accurately

11:59

he did something suspicious recently

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oh what did he do and asked

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the as you know relative to my time

12:07

i just got back from a corrections mission with the last

12:09

year crew regarding the glacier incident

12:11

i explained that mission went smoothly

12:14

we had some unexpected help which really

12:17

michael should detail in his report because

12:19

he was the only one that knew what was going on

12:21

then michael did something really strange

12:24

at the end of that mission i brought up this interview

12:27

as in you interviewing me about the death

12:29

of elder hunter mike reacted

12:31

normally but michael got snappy

12:33

with us as soon as i breached the subject we

12:35

were getting along fine i remember

12:38

the mood been really high after action packed

12:40

mission just went off without a hitch then his

12:42

mood switched in an instant and he wanted to get

12:44

us all out of there and away from each other and least

12:46

that's what it felt like in that was a big

12:48

red flag and noted what

12:50

i said in her notebook only looking up

12:52

at me when she was done writing you're

12:54

right mikey that is quite suspicious

12:57

i must say do you

12:59

think that he did it i

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asked well michael's

13:03

a hard nut to crack you know that and

13:06

said the easy explanation

13:08

is the yeah he feels guilty about killing

13:10

elder hunter or is worried that i'm going to

13:12

find him out and then he snapped at you that

13:14

he could also be aware that acting like that

13:16

would make him look suspicious and so

13:19

he's strong suspicion on to himself in order

13:21

to protect someone that's how

13:23

michael sees himself he's a protector

13:25

the call himself a sheepdog and the sheep that

13:27

he's hurting our the mike's in the edgar's so

13:30

there's a significant chance that he's trying to draw attention

13:32

to himself in order to take the heat off of

13:34

one of you that being said

13:36

that self awareness doesn't end there maybe

13:38

he knows that i would know that it would be too

13:40

simple for him to be the culprit

13:42

maybe he knows

13:43

that i would suspect that he's protecting someone

13:45

in that would take suspicion off of him so

13:47

maybe he did do it and by acting like he's guilty

13:50

he thinks that that will make him look innocent

13:52

regardless you

13:54

the exactly what he wanted you to do and told

13:56

me about it at least that i'm pretty

13:58

sure of

13:59

the

13:59

it into my coffee cup while she spoke and

14:02

how many layers deep do you think you have to go

14:04

before you find what level he's actually on

14:07

and shroud dinner rowley

14:09

die maybe whatever number it lands on is

14:11

how many layers deep his reasoning goes edgar's

14:14

got a d twenty in a drawer and our bedroom

14:16

i think i said my

14:19

need more sides and that maybe a random number

14:21

generator and said at

14:23

the coffee cup down on the table gently this

14:25

time that help it all i

14:27

asked i feel like we ended back at square

14:29

one oh absolutely she

14:32

said i thought it was possible but

14:34

you've given some credence the idea that michael

14:36

knows what happened it does seem likely

14:38

that he was either involved or he's protecting

14:40

someone who was involved either way

14:42

he's not and unaware party he

14:45

paused for a moment and i could see her studying

14:47

my face correctly deducing that i

14:49

was deciding whether or not selling michael of the

14:51

river had been worth it

14:53

the you feel

14:54

alright that you told me about

14:56

that i know that michael is you

14:58

and you've essentially implicated him

15:01

is this hard for you no

15:04

it's fine i close my eyes for

15:07

a moment i think that you're

15:09

right that michael wanted me to tell

15:11

you and even if he didn't i think

15:13

that i was right to tell you michael

15:15

is a mike he's one of us

15:17

but mike's need to be wrangled every now

15:20

and then even the mike lee says that he's

15:22

the sheepdog you don't have to

15:24

explain that to me and teased besides

15:27

you're not gonna kill him or anything i

15:29

said we just need to figure out exactly

15:31

what happened and when in order to keep

15:33

base from violating this hunter hartley

15:36

agreement who said

15:38

anything about not killing michael and

15:40

asked why we're not

15:43

killing michael i said i

15:45

mean mike if he did it i

15:48

could feel a lump in my throat i

15:50

swallowed hard and look the an beginning to

15:52

stand up on consciously i don't know

15:54

what my body was planning for me run

15:57

run out of the door of base and than what to

15:59

tell my what i'd done phillies

16:02

whatever it was it wasn't something on the conscious

16:04

level i felt like an animal who

16:06

didn't realize it was stepping on a trap until

16:08

it was too late had

16:11

a look of surprise on her face

16:13

oh no mikey i'm so sorry i was kidding

16:15

i thought you knew that i was getting a oh no

16:17

you're actually worried mikey

16:20

i'm so sorry i thought that you would pick

16:22

up on the joke know of course i'm not

16:24

going to kill michael or anyone else involved

16:26

in this

16:27

there will be corrections and they will be consequences

16:29

and they might be severe when nobody's

16:32

getting the death penalty over

16:36

i now need to lie down i said

16:39

i didn't understand why that i cause

16:41

such a severe reaction and me yeah

16:44

sure she said sorry

16:46

bad joke i lay down on the couch

16:49

that i'd been sitting on i should have joked

16:51

about that your him after also

16:53

in a very real sense i made a joke

16:55

about killing you and considering

16:58

your track record us you

17:00

have every right to be touchy about that not

17:03

me i shot back sternly

17:06

and i don't know why i reacted like

17:08

that kill him for all i care okay

17:11

if you say so and says we

17:14

can talk about something else now would be

17:16

a find time to change the subject you made it most

17:19

of the way through the checklist okay

17:21

change the subject of what i asked

17:24

candid that thing for you sit up straight by bouncing

17:26

onto the balls of your feet for like a split second

17:28

with your hands on your knees it's not standing

17:30

or even have standing because you never put your body weight

17:33

over your knees but it's also not just sitting

17:35

up because you do take your weight off of your but

17:38

but there's gotta be a word for this so i googled it

17:40

in turns out there's not an all the ads i

17:42

get her fur ball pit bulls and knee braces

17:45

i do hope you understand what i'm trying to describe

17:47

she put her weight on the balls her feet for a split second

17:50

and she uses movement to get closer to the edge

17:52

of the seat at which point she sat up straight

17:55

how is they're not already a word for this we

17:57

know what let's make up a word for it posture

17:59

bouncing and posture bounced

18:01

into a more upright position and change the subject

18:04

okay i'll start with a straight question just

18:07

like with the hunter sauce and said are

18:09

you mustard seed no

18:12

i'm not and i'm tired of people

18:14

assuming that i am i said and

18:17

you're not just saying that because you couldn't prove that

18:19

mustard seed had ever contacted you she

18:21

asked because they never

18:23

have i said what would

18:26

i gained from being mustard seed

18:29

me and said but they've

18:31

messaged every one but you and they've been posting

18:33

wobegon guides on reddit so smells

18:35

like you

18:37

the know like me why would i post a

18:39

wobegon guide to reddit i asked

18:41

i don't know she said but

18:43

they're guide has the hand thing i never

18:46

did the hand thing only you did you know the

18:48

the hand saying with the song

18:50

yes i remember the hand

18:52

saying i said and yes

18:54

i know that i was the only one of the two of

18:56

us to do it

18:57

ryan said that it was to score more points because

19:00

i was in the lead and yep saying that

19:02

out loud now i realize that was definitely

19:04

bullshit and he was just trying to fuck with me

19:07

successfully i might add why

19:09

would i post a guide i don't want

19:11

people playing and if i did one people

19:13

playing them i wouldn't want people to cheese

19:15

that challenge by finding the song without putting in

19:18

any work do you know how many hours

19:20

i spent scrubbing through every song

19:22

with the word points in it listen

19:25

to eight hundred and fifty songs

19:27

before i found the right one okay

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thanks for meeting with me today

22:16

i can tell you're nervous don't be

22:19

this is a formality

22:21

it was acquired afternoon at base

22:23

with the rest of the group seemingly having gone

22:25

home for the evening listen

22:27

to the windows illuminated the dust particles

22:30

in the living room the mood was warm

22:32

and sleepy prison situation

22:34

know withstanding and was right

22:37

as per usual i was nervous

22:40

i felt my jaw clenching and made a conscious

22:42

effort to relaxes to sell weed clinched

22:44

again as soon as i stepped paying attention to

22:46

it and was collected

22:48

and prepared and simultaneously

22:50

relaxed like a star pupil confidently

22:53

giving a presentation they know that they did a perfect

22:55

job on sometimes i could feel

22:57

myself tense up when she was that put

23:00

together he reminded me

23:02

of tie better rage in those moments superficially

23:05

through no fault of her own of course this

23:07

demeanor was a tool and they were both

23:10

using this tool but two different

23:12

ends we sat on

23:14

opposite sides of the coffee table which

23:16

had folder spread across it's entire surface

23:18

i took a sip of my coffee it was black

23:21

and bitter my throat so little

23:23

scratchy today can i get some

23:25

honey for this for this scratchy

23:28

from practicing the michael voice

23:30

she asked how

23:33

, you i slammed my

23:35

coffee cup on the table well i didn't

23:37

slam it because i didn't want to get coffee everywhere

23:40

but i sat down as hard as i could

23:42

so the bit didn't really work but at least

23:44

i tried and i had been practicing

23:46

the michael voice but only because mike didn't

23:48

know how to do the michael voice and it almost got him

23:50

into hot water in one of the missions and

23:54

edgar likes the cowboys

23:57

but and doesn't need to know any of this

23:59

guard with i'm pretty sure we're out of honey and

24:02

replied oh and why is that is

24:04

a because we're so far in the future that all the bees

24:06

are extinct i asked and

24:08

last nice dry mikey boy

24:11

said since it's funny not

24:13

going to rule it out though she winked at me

24:16

you could be at any time past present

24:18

or future it's important that you

24:20

don't know for the sake of the stability of this

24:22

conversation the for the

24:24

interview i had looked around the living

24:26

room in the base in whatever time i was

24:28

currently in it looked remarkably

24:30

like the living room i was used to lounging around

24:33

in when there wasn't work to be done the

24:35

same television same couches

24:37

same table all of which didn't

24:39

look any worse for wear the

24:41

same picture of the whole base of the corrections

24:43

party that establish this version of the base

24:46

everyone still alive reality

24:49

still being the one that i was familiar with

24:51

i didn't think that she had move me far from my native

24:54

time of course

24:56

i replied but can you at least

24:59

tommy which an your nope

25:01

can't do that either she replied for

25:03

the same reasons anyone who would want to

25:05

intervene in this conversation would have to figure

25:07

out which and to compromise i

25:10

squinted at her knowing ahead of time that

25:12

i wasn't going to be able to tell the difference

25:14

my an and the and sent from her organization

25:17

weren't like myself mike and michael

25:19

they were similar to the point of being indiscernible

25:22

from one another they didn't have

25:25

conveniently placed facial scars like

25:27

the hunters they didn't go by separate

25:29

name's they were both an

25:32

they saw themselves as the same person

25:35

i disagreed there had been

25:37

more mike walters is than i could keep track of

25:39

at this point i'd watched some of them

25:41

die i knew that others had died

25:43

and didn't physically affect me it

25:46

didn't affect the mike's and latvia the came after

25:48

me they weren't connected in the same

25:50

way that the past is connected to the present

25:53

and the president is connected to the future

25:56

the makes we're all different people

25:58

from my perspective which that

26:00

the and had to be different people to

26:02

even if i could always tell them apart and

26:06

are you aware of the reason for these interviews

26:09

and asked she wrote something down on her

26:11

notebook i know that you are because

26:13

you are present for the vin citing incident but

26:15

as a formality i'm just going to the checklist

26:17

like i'm going to with everyone here the first

26:20

interview so this is also a little bit of a practice

26:22

run someone

26:24

killed elder hunter and we have

26:26

to figure out who it is before the hunters figure

26:28

out that it happened i said the

26:31

ending we have a winner she replied

26:34

do you think that these interviews are gonna work

26:36

almost everyone at current basis from this time

26:39

in the murder presumably happens in the future

26:42

i said without letting on

26:44

too much she said this is part

26:46

of a multi pronged approach to the situation

26:48

we are not the only group trying to figure this out

26:51

though the other ends i

26:53

replied no more for me even

26:55

when i said as too much she replied it

26:58

you could figure that out i think through

27:00

the interviews in this present might not result

27:02

in figuring out what happened the

27:05

it could give us a more holistic snapshot

27:07

of the entire event if we can

27:09

get a good idea of what the circumstances might

27:11

be than that would be a good start at

27:13

least yeah that makes sense

27:16

i said oh into i

27:18

didn't kill elder hunter so i just

27:20

to get that out of the way and

27:22

smirked

27:23

oh you're saying you didn't kill him well

27:26

as he say so than i guess we can just skip

27:28

right over that question ha i'm

27:30

not getting look getting actually wrote it down as the first question

27:32

did you kill elder hunter let me know

27:34

and gonna say yes but now silly what i look

27:37

if they would have said yes and i didn't ask

27:39

they are point especially with me there's

27:41

a chance that if it had been me than i would

27:43

have just told you i said there's

27:46

a good chance you would have she said moving

27:48

along a here's a mike specific question

27:51

what do you recall about the night in question

27:53

the elder hunter incident if you

27:56

will let's see

27:58

edgar and i were watching thinking of ending

28:00

things a film i can never watch again

28:03

elder hunter fell into the cabin around

28:06

nine pm a he was already dead when

28:08

he got there from there there are

28:10

two realities that i remember

28:13

one where i called punish hunter and he told

28:15

me to kill edgar to keep him from talking

28:18

i tried to send elder hunter away to the

28:20

over security program but punish hunter

28:22

found me ruff me up on knocks

28:24

me out and set me back to my cabin

28:27

and sent edgar to mesa arizona

28:30

i guess to buy me some time

28:32

and to keep edgar from talking in

28:35

the other reality which i guess is

28:37

this one are you and me showed up to the

28:39

cabin and told my keen edgar to

28:41

mind their own business and to

28:43

never mentioned this to any hunter for

28:45

any reason and then we moved

28:47

elder hunter using the calculator though

28:50

just the events that we corrected and

28:52

us doing the correction itself she

28:54

asked i of

28:56

course yeah just the two what do you mean

28:59

i asked though you don't remember

29:01

any other innovations of that event she

29:03

asked

29:04

no when did it

29:06

her

29:07

are there other it aeration of that event

29:10

that's not for me to disclose

29:13

she said are you saying that

29:15

because you don't know or because

29:17

you do know and the answer is yes

29:20

i asked you have successfully

29:22

pinpointed what i'm not disclosing she

29:24

replied you know having

29:26

recounted that night for the first time in some

29:29

time some of those details

29:31

do feel like the hunters issuing corrections

29:33

on themselves hunter didn't

29:35

kill edgar even though he clearly wanted

29:37

to he knew where to find me

29:39

and he kept me from using the security program

29:41

with who knows what happens if he hadn't done that

29:44

so they were probably more than two ways

29:46

that night played out but , sounds

29:48

like a question from michael if anyone

29:50

remembers than it's him i said said

29:53

got about ten completely different realities

29:55

under his belt from what i can tell i'll

29:58

ask him in his interview next week by

30:00

the way do you know why he said he wasn't

30:02

available to the interview until next week she

30:04

asked he didn't say anything

30:07

to me i said i don't

30:09

see what reason he would have it's not like he's

30:11

doing anything else anything

30:13

else that we're allowed to know about and

30:15

corrected me you would do well to

30:17

remember that he's not a member of your base

30:20

he's base member of base ten years from now

30:23

he takes orders from them first not

30:25

us and that base works him on

30:27

s r t so if something is going to take

30:29

a week then he'll be busy for a week the

30:32

area s r t there's new

30:34

lingo i asked simulated

30:36

real time as in if a job takes two hours

30:39

and when you come back it'll be two hours later we already

30:41

do this she said i picked

30:44

it up from an right

30:46

you picked it up from an end

30:48

you aren't the other an

30:50

sure an

30:52

getting it like a brady bunch and made an important

30:55

point i sometimes sounded too

30:57

easy to forget that mike and michael weren't

30:59

working with us first and foremost

31:01

they were issuing corrections and those corrections

31:03

of course had to be handed down by a later

31:06

aeration of the base with a better

31:08

vantage point and we had that

31:10

was the entire reason that they were here and

31:12

by here ideal meal latvia i

31:15

figured it with my coffee cup nervously

31:17

michael has been acting suspiciously

31:20

or i suppose more accurately

31:22

he did something suspicious recently

31:25

oh what did he do and asked

31:28

the as you know relative to my time

31:30

i just got back from a corrections mission with the last

31:32

year crew regarding the glacier incident

31:35

i explained that mission went smoothly

31:37

we had some unexpected help which really

31:40

michael should detail in his report because

31:42

he was the only one that knew what was going on

31:45

then michael did something really strange

31:48

at the end of that mission i brought up this interview

31:50

as in you interviewing me about the

31:52

death of elder hunter mike reacted

31:54

normally but michael got snappy

31:56

with us as soon as i breached the subject we

31:59

were getting along line i remember

32:01

the mood been really high after action packed

32:03

mission just went off without a hitch then his

32:05

mood switched in an instant and he wanted to get

32:07

us all out of there and away from each other at least

32:09

that's what it felt like and that was a big

32:11

red flag and noted what

32:14

i said in her notebook only looking up

32:16

at me when she was done writing you're

32:18

right mikey that is quite suspicious

32:20

i must say do you

32:22

think that he did it i

32:24

asked well michael

32:27

a hard nut to crack you know that and

32:29

said the easy explanation

32:31

is the yeah he feels guilty about killing

32:33

elder hunter or is worried that i'm going to

32:35

find him out and then he snapped at you

32:37

you could also be aware that

32:39

acting like that would make him look suspicious

32:41

and so he's strong suspicion on to himself

32:44

in order to protect someone that's

32:46

how michael sees himself he's a protector

32:49

the call himself a sheep the morgan the sheep that

32:51

he's hurting our the makes in the edgar's so

32:53

there's a significant chance at he's trying to draw attention

32:55

to himself in order to take the heat off of

32:57

one of you that being said

32:59

that self awareness doesn't end there maybe

33:02

he knows that i would know that it would be too

33:04

simple for him to be the culprit

33:06

maybe he knows

33:07

i would suspect that he's protecting someone and

33:09

that would take suspicion off of him so

33:11

maybe he did do it and by acting like he's guilty

33:13

he thinks of that will make him look innocent

33:16

regardless you

33:17

the exactly what he wanted you to do and told

33:19

me about it at least that i'm pretty

33:21

sure of i stared into

33:23

my coffee cup while she spoke and

33:25

how many layers deep do you think you have to go

33:27

before you find what level he's actually on

33:30

and shrugged dinner rowley

33:33

die maybe whatever number it lands on is

33:35

how many layers deep his reasoning goes edgar's

33:37

got a d twenty in a drawer in our bedroom

33:39

i think i said my

33:42

need more sites and that maybe a random number

33:44

generator and said that

33:46

the coffee cup down on the table gently this

33:48

time the that help it all i

33:51

asked i feel like we ended back at square

33:53

one

33:54

oh absolutely she said

33:56

i thought it was possible but you've given some credence

33:58

the idea that michael knows

33:59

happen

34:00

it does seem likely that he was either involved

34:03

or he's protecting someone who was involved

34:05

either way he's not and unaware party

34:08

he paused for a moment and i could see her studying

34:10

my face correctly to do think that i

34:12

was deciding whether or not selling michael up the

34:14

river had been worth it

34:16

the you feel

34:17

right

34:18

that you told me about that i know

34:21

that michael is you and you've essentially

34:23

implicated him is this

34:25

hard for you no

34:28

it's fine i close my eyes for

34:30

a moment i think that you're

34:32

right that michael wanted me to tell

34:34

you and even if he didn't i think

34:36

that i was right to tell you michael

34:39

is a mike he's one of us

34:41

but mike's need to be wrangled every now

34:43

and then even the mike he says that he's

34:45

the sheepdog you don't have to

34:47

explain that to me and teased besides

34:50

you're not gonna kill him or anything i

34:52

said we just need to figure out exactly

34:55

what happened and when in order to keep

34:57

base from violating this hunter hartley

34:59

agreement who said

35:01

anything about not killing michael and

35:03

asked why we're not

35:06

killing michael i said i

35:09

mean mike if he did it i

35:11

could feel a lump in my throat i

35:13

swallowed hard and look the an beginning to

35:15

stand up on consciously i don't

35:18

know what my body was planning for me run

35:20

run out of the door of base and than what go

35:22

tell michael what i'd done phillies

35:25

whatever it was it wasn't something on the conscious

35:27

level i felt like an animal who

35:30

didn't realize it was stepping on a trap until

35:32

it was too late and

35:34

had a look of surprise on her face

35:36

oh no what mikey i'm so sorry i was kidding

35:39

i thought you knew that i was getting a oh no

35:41

you're actually worried

35:43

mikey i'm so sorry either that you would

35:45

pick up on the joke know of course

35:47

i'm not going to kill michael or anyone else involved

35:49

in this there will be corrections

35:51

and they will be consequences and they might be

35:53

severe when nobody's getting the

35:55

death penalty over it

35:59

i need to lie down i

36:02

said i didn't understand why that i

36:04

cause such a severe reaction and me yeah

36:07

sure she said sorry

36:10

bad joke i lay down on the couch

36:12

that i had been sitting on i should have joked

36:14

about that your him after also

36:16

in a very real sense i made a joke

36:18

about killing you and considering

36:21

your track record us you

36:23

have every right to be touchy about that not

36:27

me i shot back sternly

36:29

and i don't know why i reacted like

36:31

that kill him for all i care okay

36:35

if you say so and says we

36:37

can talk about something else now would be

36:40

a find time to change the subject you made it most

36:42

of the way through the checklist okay

36:44

change the subject of what i asked

36:47

the and that thing for you sit up straight by bouncing

36:49

on to the balls of your feet for like a split second

36:51

with your hands on your knees it's not standing

36:54

or even have standing because you never put your body weight

36:56

over your knees but it's also not just sitting

36:58

up because you do take your way off of your but

37:01

but there's gotta be a word for this so i googled it

37:04

in turns out there's not an all the ads i

37:06

get a fur ball pit bulls and knee braces

37:08

i do hope you understand what i'm trying to describe

37:11

she put her weight on the balls her feet for a split second

37:13

and she use this movement to get closer to the edge

37:15

of the seat at which point she sat up straight

37:18

how is they're not already a word for this you

37:20

know what let's make up a word for it posture

37:22

bouncing am posture bounced

37:24

into a more upright position and change the subject

37:28

okay i'll start with a straight question just

37:30

like with the hundred stuff and said are

37:32

you mustard seed no

37:35

i'm not and i'm tired of people

37:37

assuming that i am i said and

37:40

you're not just saying that because you couldn't prove that

37:42

mustard seed had ever contacted you she

37:45

asked because they never

37:47

have i said what would

37:49

i gained from being mustard seed

37:52

the to me and said but

37:54

they messaged everyone but you and they've been

37:56

posting wobegon guides on reddit so

37:58

smells like you

38:00

the know like me why would i post a

38:02

wobegon guide to read it i asked

38:05

i don't know she said but

38:07

they're guide has the hand thing i never

38:09

did the hand thing only you did you know that

38:11

the hand saying with the song

38:13

yes i remember as the hand

38:15

saying i said and yes

38:17

i know that i was the only one of the two of

38:20

us to do it

38:21

ryan said that it was to score more points because

38:23

i was in the lead and yep saying that

38:25

out loud now i realize that was definitely

38:27

bullshit and he was just trying to fuck with me

38:30

successfully i might add why

38:32

would i post a guide i don't want

38:35

people playing and if i did one people

38:37

playing them i wouldn't want people to cheese

38:39

that challenge by finding the song without putting in

38:41

any work do you know how many hours

38:43

i spent scrubbing through every song

38:45

with the word points in it listen

38:48

to eight hundred and fifty songs

38:50

before i found the right one

38:52

okay but we had chance reach out to the hunters

38:55

and they didn't have to do the hand thing either

38:57

and said and mustard seed has

38:59

been trying to contact them as well stance

39:02

reported that they're a little bit angry about

39:04

it because they think that mustard seed is us

39:07

well specifically they things that mustard

39:09

seed as you well too

39:11

bad because it's not me i repeated

39:14

i already noted that you said that and

39:16

said gesturing towards her notebook did

39:18

you note that i meant it i asked

39:21

i can know the he said that you meant it she

39:23

said it it really seems like you mike

39:26

this person ascending weird messages and links to

39:28

basically everyone at base and the hunters

39:31

how would someone who isn't one of us even know

39:33

that charlie for instance is connected

39:35

to any of this harley

39:37

has been getting messages from this creep

39:40

i asked yeah everyone but

39:42

you it seems like and the messages to

39:44

mention things that only you would

39:46

know about and said what

39:49

what kind of things i asked

39:52

i could feel my face flushing

39:54

the about the

39:54

right out from the third challenge when i got

39:56

hurt so bad and we had to wait it out a week no

39:59

one else knows that only you mike

40:01

you and near future iterations there

40:04

was a distance in her eyes as she remembered

40:06

the third challenge i knew that look

40:09

i also had multiple memories the gave me

40:11

reason to have that expression when i thought of

40:13

them and think

40:15

about it why would i do any of this

40:17

you have to know how seriously i take

40:20

base i said i know

40:22

and i do trust you granted it

40:24

might not have sounded like it just now what i do

40:26

trust you she said i'm just

40:29

trying to understand what's going on and

40:31

the evidence points to you by you're right

40:33

that there's no motive i have

40:35

no idea what you would be achieving by doing

40:37

this hell i don't know what they're achieving

40:40

if it's not you like what's the point well

40:42

i guess i'm glad that i'm only partly suspected

40:45

of being mustard seed then i said

40:48

there any way that i can see all of

40:50

these messages sometime i

40:52

don't see why not and said

40:54

i'm in the process of collecting them from every

40:56

one right now i should have all the transcript

40:59

soon and i've been cataloguing their

41:01

public online posts i'm

41:03

trying to see if there's some sort of digital fingerprint

41:05

in there somewhere but guess you could

41:08

see if you're him then you've already

41:10

seen them right and if you're not than there's

41:12

no harm in schilling you i'm

41:14

glad that the moral calculation has come out

41:16

in my favor this time i said

41:18

i felt awful being suspected

41:20

of something that i honestly didn't do for

41:22

once there are so many terrible

41:25

things that i did do i would like to

41:27

be suspected of those please not

41:29

this wanna be hacker nonsense

41:31

it's childish it's below me

41:33

at this point in my life it wasn't me

41:36

and i didn't think that it was my aeration

41:38

it couldn't have been lastly a mike he's

41:40

too mature for this to and it wouldn't

41:42

be michael either he's not too

41:44

mature for this but there would be like

41:46

a cowboy western themed the whole thing

41:48

if it were him he would have a username

41:50

like tumbleweed he would be found

41:53

out immediately i'm sorry

41:55

that changing the subject just made things worse

41:57

i don't know what i thought would happen she said

42:00

i looked out the window fuzzy bumble

42:02

the laser we flew past in the afternoon

42:04

sun the bees were not extinct

42:07

fine new had to ask i

42:10

said the for any

42:12

more can be said the front door phone open

42:14

an was standing in the doorway sweating a

42:16

frightened expression on her face and

42:18

we have a problem a big one and

42:21

said you can't come in here and

42:23

said i've got mike with me we're not supposed

42:25

to be in the same place and time right now yes

42:27

i know answer which is how you know

42:29

that we have a legitimate emergency i

42:31

don't want to be here i have to get you and then

42:33

we have to get this resolved immediately what's

42:36

going on i asked we can't

42:38

talk in front of him we need to go and

42:40

said okay well didn't give me just

42:42

a minute i've got to send him back and said

42:44

no there's no time and said wait

42:47

so you're leaving me here i don't

42:49

even know when in time i am i objected

42:52

at least let me have a calculator i'm

42:54

a big boy i can make it back on my own no

42:56

because then you'll know when you are and

42:59

said and we need to leave pronto

43:01

and said okay fine mike

43:03

i didn't actually movie through time she admitted

43:06

i only moved through space it was a trick

43:08

there are less contingencies now than if we were actually

43:10

going back and forth through time just to conduct interviews

43:13

i'm still in the present i

43:16

asked yeah gotta run things during the interview

43:18

might i'll be back soon

43:20

i hope and said she

43:22

was already heading out the door by mike

43:25

an added the door slam shut

43:27

abruptly i was alone at

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