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mikey aims

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, made it in one piece of welcome

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a welcome in melbourne

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man this whole thing into

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i don't know

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it's not fair the

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and is really sorry this is happening

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to you it's , right i'm

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just just little overwhelmed

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when i'm hanging in there will be was every

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right to be overwhelmed know

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there's a my other half come to cheer you up

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he's been attached at the have ever

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since he got here since bruno

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tiny puppy boris's on

2:29

a weekend trip so we've got him

2:31

for three whole days your

2:34

landlord is dump his dog here

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whenever he wants yeah but also

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we don't really pay rent anymore

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evens out are you going sleep

2:43

on the couch with me bruno puppy

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me well as you hide him he

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, to cuddle up with me when i'm feeling

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under the weather he'll sweep right

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on top of you on the couch if he let himself don't

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let him smother you today how are you

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feeling by the way you

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know besides overwhelmed you

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i'd share don't i bruno how puppy

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i feel like shit i'm

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so tired of arguing mike or

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mike thought echo is tired of arguing until

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everyone decided that they'd rather not talk

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to me at all they've decided

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to focus their efforts on the mission the

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details of which are need to know good

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lord howe i hate the phrase need to

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know and since the messages are all

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about me i'm not allowed to

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be involved i've basically recused

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myself now , miss

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arguing now i'm tired of the silent

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treatment mustard seed is

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ruined everything i

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know no one's being themselves

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right now with really strange to watch

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i think you made the right decision to come here

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and him get out of there for a while let

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everyone cool off everyone's

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scared and angry and no one

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knows what's coming next and i think they're

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making bad decisions i just feel

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so the trade it's like mustard

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seed gone to all of them in cast a spell

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on them they treat me completely differently

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now and they won't tell me what any of the messages say

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and everytime i try to talk to anyone i just hit more

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riled up in the previous time and of course because

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i talked to edgar more than i talk to anyone else

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must have the fights or with him and

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now i'm here because i can't

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be there anymore i can't

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share a house with my my husband

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boyfriend anymore which makes

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me feel ashamed and embarrassed

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and , not even positive what i feel ashamed

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and embarrassed about know can't miss

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okay my team well it's not okay

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i conceal you about to correct me and you're not

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wrong it's not okay but even

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though it's not okay we're going to get through this

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it's still base it still

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edgar your still nothing's

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changed there's just a tiny

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little road bomb okay

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i sure hope so

4:58

you can tell i'm up said it's okay puppy

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and snow okay but it's gonna be okay puppy

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before he gets in here michael

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okay i saw him when he

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came into the elder hunter interview and

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he was acting bizarre he

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wouldn't say a word to me and his favorite

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thing is talking michael

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has been going off on his own he

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thinks that i won't know that he's been using

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the calculator as long as he keeps his bedroom

5:25

door closed when he travels but he always

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knock something over when he gets back to

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the only thing i can't tell us how long he's gone

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for he won't let me and on any of it

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oh for instance something happened maybe

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happened week or two ago while ago while out on a walk

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with bruno here i came back and

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michael was really irritable then

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right after the mustard seed stuff started

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getting worse and he shut me out even

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more he wouldn't even talk to me at all

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for a few days and keep this

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between you and me i found a drop of blood

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and the carpet knives who knows what happened

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there for yep he won't sell me

5:58

and he never does in that's

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not him taking orders from his

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base his base

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whole that would be novel witness know

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most of the orders come from my base

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we almost never hear from his base which

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means if there's an order i know about it and

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i'm involved in it because it's my base

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is giving the orders okay then

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do you think that he's acting on some knowledge

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about mustard seed that we don't have

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or of the elder hunter situation again

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no idea it seems related

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doesn't the could know something or

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he could be acting that way for a thousand different reasons

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you know how he gets just

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a black box all the time what

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he's reacting to might not have even happened yet

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watch this michael has been soaking

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in his bedroom all afternoon but as soon

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as he knows you're here he's just gonna turn up the

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charm and act like nothing's wrong a

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michael

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mike easier

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the get ready to be sheepdog

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mikey i'm glad you could make it bruno

6:57

sure looks happy to see the

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old not partner sadly

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boil bulk up mikey boy worse

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why you're going to have with edgar not

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when both the all are involved in the nasty

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business of time travel yeah

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it feels especially nasty right

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now that's because you're under attack

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they don't see it that way yet or

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they be circling the wagons with they'll

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come around the is under

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attack to after all everyone

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just need some time to cool off and

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realize it there's a reason mustard

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seed is haven't this play out no

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fully now that you're here they can get

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their minds are view and focus and

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absence makes the heart grow fonder the

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idea that everyone just needs

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to forget about me for a little while

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and order to tolerate me again doesn't

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actually make me feel any better well

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tough shit milgrom me the truth

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that you like this old cowboy more

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math to done a while without see in i'm sad

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we ain't having a slumber party where

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them satellite base we're

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gonna get to the bottom of this mustard seed

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stuff this affects us to mikey

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boy you don't get to sit

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back and won and play with the dog

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while mark and i get all the important work

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done speaking of has

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mustard seed message do again yet mikey

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no only the stuff i've already showed you

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i have alerts set up on that account so i'll

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see the moment they reply to me again that

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don't delete the account so i guess that's

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the plan has mustard seed

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tried to contact either of you nothing

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on iran i've kept an eye out for

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mustard see posts in the wild but haven't found

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any yet and they have a message mean and

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of course now would be the perfect time to go

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quiet if they wanted to screw with us witness yep

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and the traces are so small to begin with their

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like of

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like a really small thing like

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a seed

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you know it sure would be nice if we had a

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i don't know a base for people to

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help us find these traces well

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we don't partner and so is sam

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to explore other options it

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would be easier to explore other

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options if we even knew what mustard

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seed once they say they've

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got info on elder hunter they sent matt

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audio of the night we completed the for challenge

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based on their reaction i assume

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that what they sent to the rest of bases equally

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bad so what's the point

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the smoke out mike walters okay

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sure why the rest of the bases

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still doing work without me they're working

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on mustard seed an elder hunter he

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doesn't think that they can get me kicked out of base

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do they that isn't

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going to happen is it no

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as a declared a statement that's not going to happen

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why can't i inflict downward that's michael

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tommy it's not gonna happen no

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chance in hell partner

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let's look at this logically

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maybe your important into something

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or there's a correction that you make that

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they're trying to prevent or a

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correction they're trying to issue even they

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want you to do something or not do

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so they are they want base to do something or

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not do something maybe you

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really narrowed it down mike thanks

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for looking at it logically look all

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i'm saying is people have interests and they

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act on them mustard seed is trying

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to get whatever it is that they want so

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the more we can observe their actions

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the more we can decipher why they're doing what

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they're doing okay and how much of my

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life is going to be destroyed before we figure

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that out is edgar knows

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about the pacific ocean and fuck that's already

10:27

too late

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edgar

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news about the pacific ocean

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i don't know what he knows well

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you shouldn't say things like that you don't

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know i don't think that it's a

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good idea to catastrophes about this

10:42

more i wasn't catastrophizing because i thought

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it was a great idea i'm saying drop

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it oh you are who are you talking to me

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or bruno i'm talking to you

10:51

drop it it's , for you to

10:53

say it worked out for you you're engaged

10:57

and it wasn't always pleasant on the journey they're

10:59

dumb ass even the dumbest nineties

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rom coms know that you can't eliminate

11:03

conflict gift to minimize conflict

11:06

and maximize resolution mikey

11:08

you seen the big conflicts we went through them

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together edgar was killed alongside

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everyone else at base because of us

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in another aeration he went through the last

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year and then he almost got us

11:19

killed and rugby the sometimes

11:21

neither was do the dishes enough and then we both

11:23

get passive aggressive even though we're both responsible

11:25

for it so buckle up mikey it's

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a bumpy ride and , the dishes

11:29

more it's not worth it to prove a point if

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, interject mighty

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you love edgar i don't think that's

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presumptuous made

11:39

it through my decade more this the

11:41

new and living got easier when i

11:43

toughened up or not

11:45

often dot when i started acting like it

11:48

you down the hard work already you corrected

11:51

the past you protected him that's

11:53

how you need to see it new protect

11:55

him and he protects you sheep

11:58

dog each other a little in part

12:00

of that means get know are things that never

12:02

happened admit it to yourself

12:04

and move on getting ,

12:06

up gonna get you hurt and hurt

12:09

and her the rest of us okay well

12:11

to be fair michael you never

12:13

told your edgar about the pacific ocean

12:16

ocean made my peace with it without

12:18

him it never happened you

12:21

don't believe that most

12:23

of my life never happened builder i'm it

12:25

only feels like it did bullshit

12:29

did have memories of other innovations to

12:31

michael they're real ah

12:33

don't have to justify myself are you

12:36

sad were wander you sad from the point

12:39

the point is that dwell in will only

12:41

pull you into the darkness and there's nothing

12:43

waiting for you there might

12:45

you know as well you know do that's

12:48

true i do need to

12:50

talk to you about this later but to shouldn't

12:52

be about us mikey need

12:54

somewhere that he can ruminate and process

12:56

what's going on and that's why he's here were

12:59

like his secluded little monastery

13:01

were who billie at considering

13:03

how small and dark it is mikey

13:06

to that help any i feel like we got a

13:08

little sidetracked ha ha i

13:10

was playing with the dog it sounds like you

13:12

guys worked through some of your shit though i

13:14

still feel like shit like think you'll

13:16

even out with some time away to think

13:19

about stuff so what do you

13:21

say we take bruno for a

13:25

the got some how many for dinner

13:27

and then we'll start making plans to deal

13:29

with mustard seed and elder hunter in the

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morning michael how many

13:34

you add me at the first bell many

13:37

let's go

14:13

bruno

14:16

fuck was as a d s a

14:18

freeze michael it me

14:21

don't point that at me mikey

14:23

what was that sound i don't know i

14:25

was asleep someone get the lots

14:28

did it come from in here mike he did you see anything

14:31

so now i heard some scratching noises

14:34

i think and then like a loud bang like

14:36

someone was banging on the other side of the wall but

14:38

he ain't seen nothin know but

14:41

it was pitch black and here bruno's

14:43

sniffing at the wall their did it

14:45

sound like it came from right there maybe

14:48

i guess i was in the middle of a dream

14:50

it was the dog dream the one with edgar

14:52

another one i guess because bruno

14:55

was lying on top of me i

14:57

thought the sounds were in the dream until bruno

14:59

jumped off the couch and started growling and woke

15:01

me up your mac take my

15:03

pistol and check all the rooms find

15:06

anyone other than the three of us shoot i'm

15:08

even if it's another mikey excuse

15:11

me another mikey naturally

15:13

her let me get a better look at you while i'm

15:15

at it michael what are you

15:17

doing let go of me gotta make

15:19

sure your the same one who came in the front

15:22

door this afternoon michael what

15:24

are you even talking about he's our mikey

15:26

from the base leave him alone better

15:28

safe than sorry believe you me i

15:31

got my reasons it might be time

15:33

for a story once we get to the bottom of this

15:36

mack double check the rooms dare the whole

15:38

place apart don't let any corner go

15:40

unchecked know game michael isn't

15:42

this a lot it was probably

15:44

just the neighbor said

15:46

we're at the end of the hall and are only neighbor

15:48

moved out a month ago something

15:51

is either in that wall or in the neighboring

15:53

apartment where it shouldn't be that

15:56

mikey mere take

15:59

these down to luck marks

16:01

on the first floor this

16:03

and opens lockbox grab

16:06

the spare for the neighbor's apartment check

16:08

to make sure nothing in there should be

16:10

completely empty no one live in in there

16:12

you have a key to the spares

16:15

well i have a key to the lock box

16:17

and get into utility closet and case we

16:19

need anything for bruno dog

16:21

food clean and supplies stuff

16:23

like that that sounds like he was signed

16:25

me and mike all of the heavy lifting so what

16:28

are you going to be doing exactly i'm

16:30

gonna be looking for clues what

16:32

kind of clues what do you think made the

16:34

sound a person were about to

16:36

find out all right now standing

16:39

around chop chop i don't

16:41

feel comfortable wandering the building

16:43

alone at night can bruno come with me

16:46

sure right

16:49

bruno let's go and if

16:51

i never make it back remember that michael

16:53

is the one that sent me to my death you

16:55

will be fine it's just the apartment

16:57

building that's what they all say until

16:59

the go shows up

17:01

the number

17:08

you're gonna protect me right boy from

17:11

this

17:12

probably a raccoon realistically

17:14

more something trapped in them off do they have

17:17

raccoons here are like that

17:20

the we might i'll have to get rabies

17:22

shots of at the bad hopefully

17:24

it's not anything that can fall when

17:26

i was i was we had this bird they got stuck

17:28

inside the house and it took forever

17:30

to get it out it was too dumb

17:32

to flout the doors and windows so we had to throw

17:34

a blanket over it it was well whole spectacle

17:38

we didn't have a dog you could have

17:40

picked it up in your mouth and carried it outside

17:42

and or you know torn to shreds you are

17:44

a dog that

17:47

, fast made to the lockbox

17:50

right it was it think he said this and

17:53

where in all

17:56

right then right then he

17:58

should be this

18:01

one so far so good and

18:03

we haven't heard any gunshots which is a good

18:05

sign we're close enough i think we'd

18:07

hear it

18:08

oh let's head back think

18:11

they found anything found anything

18:15

you know of all the nice to be shaken

18:18

out of a dream of course it was one where

18:20

i was dreaming about edgar don't

18:22

tell the other mice or this okay bruno

18:24

like even and dog language don't tell them but

18:27

i feel like my marriage is falling apart and

18:30

i'm not even married that's a lot

18:32

of pressure that i didn't ask for knowing that

18:34

i'm going to marry edgar because mike and

18:36

michael did edgar and i haven't even

18:38

talked about it but it's like a cosmic

18:40

certainty that we're building up and

18:43

, with mustard seed i find myself closing

18:45

off to him again like before we had the base

18:47

and so what now i'm failing to uphold

18:50

my cosmic duties to edgar and the

18:52

other my ex and i can't confide

18:54

in any one it's a fucking dog oh

18:57

i'm sorry bruno i'm sorry bruno not mad

18:59

at you and i'm not mad and it

19:01

of the boy i'm sorry to keep and

19:04

boy the boy everything's ok and

19:09

were , moment of truth

19:11

monthly no one's home

19:13

you ready burner

19:20

wow

19:22

hello if

19:25

anyone is in here come out with your hands

19:27

up your trespassing sniff

19:31

amount bruno

19:38

we might be on a wild goose

19:41

chase after on what a release

19:43

better than actually finding someone

19:47

find anyone in their bruno

19:52

mustard seed why

19:55

now i'll

19:58

try to be quieter next

19:59

it

20:00

the mustard seed mustard seed

20:03

was hear why would mustard seed

20:05

be here

20:07

what the fuck

20:10

michael sarver mikey i didn't

20:12

, he was back upstairs yeah i

20:15

found the bug mood right where bruno

20:18

was sniffing at rider and sad the

20:20

wall there might be a lot

20:22

more of i'm a a bug somebody

20:24

bugged the apartment when there's

20:26

no sign of anybody in this apartment by

20:28

the way know people no furniture no

20:30

signs of entry will bruno

20:33

don't sniff out metal he sniffs out

20:35

flesh and blood in we

20:37

all heard something know michael

20:39

you're saying that someone was in our wall

20:41

do you have someone set this tiny

20:43

list and of us up in the wall than bumped

20:46

around and here before he made his way out

20:49

i thought they could get it bland and while we was sleeping

20:51

it's mustard seed i got a message

20:53

from them when i walked in this apartment they said i'll

20:56

try to be quiet or next time and

20:58

i don't think that it's a coincidence that this happened

21:00

the first night that i stayed here

21:02

that's because they fit in there

21:04

just barely from the looks of things

21:07

and sit in long enough to blab this bargain

21:09

maybe a few more and then get out but

21:11

i don't see any ways in or out

21:14

accept me know the big hole that you just made

21:16

with an axe they didn't need

21:18

away they had a calculator or

21:20

something like it it would be beyond

21:23

dangerous to do that michael

21:25

don't you have a story about a travel gone wrong

21:27

from when you cut it too close and guy intercepted

21:29

by a wall got cook

21:31

clean and half so over mustard

21:34

seed got here they either have either have

21:36

means of transportation than the calculator

21:38

or they're completely reckless they

21:41

were using calculators we were just as

21:43

likely to be clean and their guts off the wall as

21:45

find in their bug and we

21:47

don't know that this is the only place that they've

21:49

bugged they had a recording from maps house

21:52

they could have bugged anything anywhere in time

21:54

and this is just the first time that we noticed

21:57

it because they bumped around while doing it holy

22:00

shit michael there was someone in our wall just

22:02

now with the express and ten of listening to

22:04

us before , gonna do

22:07

do are going to remain calm

22:10

and we are going to formulate a plan

22:12

very carefully and we

22:14

ain't gonna discuss that plan inside

22:17

this build and inside this a

22:19

bruno you want to go for a walk

22:23

he loves that word or

22:25

out bruno let's go for a walk

23:23

new word rat pilgrim

23:26

that's the movies with michael podcast

23:28

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23:31

he have you

23:34

know that