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Hey, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to a
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bonus episode of Work in Progress. Thank
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you so much for listening to Work in Progress
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through. One of the
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things I've really been enjoying about
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the year beginning to wrap up is sitting
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and taking stock of where
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we've been, how far we've come, the
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things that we've done as a society,
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and also the things that I've done as
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an individual. Who I've listened to,
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who I've learned from, what I've read, and
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I want to speak a little bit about the
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phenomenal guests that I've talked to this
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year. In a lot of ways, I feel
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like this podcast itself
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is a measure of progress
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and growth, which I know are things were always
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working on, hence Work in Progress
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forever. And the plus side
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of all of that is that I think one
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here at the podcast was our strongest set
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yet. All of our guests prompted
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conversations that had a huge impact
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on the way that I understand and think about the world,
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the deepening of my perspective and ideas,
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And it's meant so much to hear from so many of you that
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you feel that way too, when you send in
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notes and tell us that you listened to
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a conversation and it helped you expand
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your view of a subject, or
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of a place, or of people. That
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to me feels like not
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only we're doing it together, but those of us who make
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this podcast for really doing something right. So
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thank you for that. I
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thought it might be neat to recap some of the
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moments that I have found looking
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back have stuck with me the most as we transition
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from the end of this year to the
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beginning of the next. So let's
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get started. In
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my conversation with Ebermex
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Candy, I got to really confront
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and examine what it means to be
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active as an ally. Dr
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Kendy's distinction between being not racist
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versus being anti racist put
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a new lens on privilege. Not just for me,
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I know for the world. His book is
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a bestseller after all, and
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he helps really clarify
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and crystallize the role
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that we can take to fight prejudice
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in our country. Something
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he said really stuck with me during our talk.
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He said that we as individuals
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have to recognize our power. I've
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been thinking a lot about what that means in terms
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of working towards being an
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ever better version of myself. And
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how I might and each of you might
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use our individual power to impact
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the world around us. I'd
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love to know, as we reflect
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together, what you think
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you can do to use your individual
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power to impact the world around you. Send
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us a note, send us an email. I'd
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love to hear it. And if
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you took notes, and I know a couple of you did
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during Dr Kendy's interview, feel free
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to send us those two. It's always so nice
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for me to compare my
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notes to yours and to hear about
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the things that impacted me versus
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what impacted you, or or if
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those things are the same. With
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journalists Ken Armstrong and marib
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A Knight, we took a deep dive into the
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power of investigation to uncover
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otherwise invisible issues
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in our society. For me, it
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really demonstrated the role that journalists
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play in holding our society accountable
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and demanding that we live up to our ideals
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and also that we confront with
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truth when we don't. It's
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so incredibly important for all of us
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to protect a free press. Kennon
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Marabaz Pulitzer Prize winning news story
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about children being jailed in
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school districts of Tennessee was
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jaw dropping and heartbreaking and eye opening
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in the episode is something
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I carry with me. It's it's ever
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present in the back of my mind,
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and the story itself is definitely
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worth the read. I imagine
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many of you read it after the episode aired,
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but if you haven't, we will also put a link to
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that story in today's show notes. We
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have to show up better for our kids. We
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have to demand better for their futures,
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and Kennan Marraba really reminded
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me to double down on
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a personal level. Having Anita
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Hill on the show, it was
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just such a refresher to my spirit. I've
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spoken about it on the episode, but
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it feels worth reiterating that seeing Anita
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speak truth to power about her
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experience as a victim of sexual harassment
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to go up against a Supreme Court justice
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is something that I drew so much
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strength from, and I know so many
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people who listen to the episode did as well,
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because so many of us have those
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experiences of our own, perhaps
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not with a justice, but with
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people whose power can be intimidating.
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The interview dropped at a period of time
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where I feel like a lot of us were wondering if things
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were actually improving if
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if all of our work was actually yielding
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progress. But talking
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to Anita reminded me that sometimes
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when we make the most progress, when when our
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collective voice gets the loudest, systems
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of power really try
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to quell us. Because there are more of us
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than there are of them. Power is hard
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to topple and change, but
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it is possible. And in
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talking to Anita and listening
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to her compare where she was during the Claris
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Thomas confirmation hearings and
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her view of watching history
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repeat itself with the Brett Kavanaugh hearings,
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I was really able to I
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don't know, dive deeper and
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and examine perspectives on social
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change. I got to take
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with me that feeling that yes, sometimes
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the rules feel like they stay the same, but it
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doesn't mean the game isn't changing. We
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are making change,
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and it will require dedication
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and longevity. Changesn't
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sexy and it doesn't happen overnight. It
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uh, it's dedicated,
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and it requires us to stay
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the course. But we see more
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and more people calling for
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things to be different, and
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I believe that we
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are going to continue to. As Dr
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King famously said, bend
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that moral ark of the universe towards justice.
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Anita continues working after
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all she went through, she continues
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to light a hope torch for the way
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that the world is changing, especially for women
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and victims of sexual assault and harassment.
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And if after all this time, she believes
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it, she reminds me that we all can too, So
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I highly recommend her episode and her
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incredible book. One
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of the most delightful surprises for me this year
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was getting to sit down with Chef jose Andres.
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By talking to him, I really got to see firsthand
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why he was awarded Humanitarian of
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the Year, and I feel like that award should
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have come with a sort
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of extra metal for jolliest
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person of the Year. He's so incredibly
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positive. Regardless of how many disaster
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zones he's worked in, how many communities
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he's seen just devastated by natural disasters
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or man made disasters, he shows
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up with a smile, and he shows up with so much
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love that it really beams out of him.
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And for someone who's committed to taking
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on and understanding a lot of our deepest
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problems, he reminded
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me of two things. First
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of all, we can find solutions
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and be a part of them as a species.
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Human beings have solved so many impossible
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problems. There is nothing out
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there it should feel undoable, no
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matter how big the challenge might be, and
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the set and thing is keeping our optimism alive.
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To paraphrase Jose's own words, it's
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easy to get bogged down by the things we know are
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wrong or unjust or harmful. But it
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is so important to remember and draw strength
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from all the things that we do
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have. Working from all the societal
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and humanitarian crises we have
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managed to send aid to, to
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move past, or even to surmount.
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We can do hard things,
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and if we do them with love, we
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can often do them with a smile. My
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discussion with Neil cat y'all got to cover
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a lot of different areas and topics, but the
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overall theme that emerged from
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that interview where the effects of
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power on integrity. I
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love opportunities to explore our social
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and political realities on work in progress,
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and there's no better expert than Neil to
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look at the judiciary aspect of
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our political reality. He
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was able to put into really clear words the way
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that our constitution was tested by
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the fast few years. I honestly
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think this episode is a must listen for anyone
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who's interested in the impact of government and party
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politics, and
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he reminded me that's so
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much of the founding
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principles and the best principles
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of our country can
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only remain true if we fight for them to do so,
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and fight we shall. Ah
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again. I just feel so happy to be wrapping out
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another year with all of you. When we started the show
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in twenty nineteen, we had no idea what it would
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become, and it is a
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highlight of my life. For
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those of you who follow me on socials, you know, I'm
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also experiencing another pretty great
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highlight right now. I am gearing
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up to launch my brand new show Good
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Sam premieres on CBS
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on Wednesday, January five at ten pm.
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It feels like it's almost here, and
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I just can't believe it. You know, we all
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got together to make this TV show in and
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then the pandemic hit, and everybody
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put in of work and tested
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their patients by waiting until early to
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film the pilot, and then we went back to
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start shooting the show at the end
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of September. So it is
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a two year labor of love to bring
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this show to you in January,
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and I can't wait for you to see it. And
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because we have been on the grind of those
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sixteen hour days and doing these podcasts
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on the weekends, I
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am going to take a little
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delicious hiatus break for this
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holiday and spend it with my family.
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We've got two weeks off during
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production. It's kind of like being in school, right You get
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a two week holiday break and you jump back in. And
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I've made the decision to actually take these
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two weeks off to be with
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my loved ones as much as possible. So
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that means we're going to take a little bit of a New year
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hiatus, not too long, don't worry,
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but work in progress will not come back
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right away with a new episode for you. The first
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week of two I
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will tell you that we will be back. And
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I want to say again how much getting to do this show
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means to me. How much I appreciate all
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of you for listening and supporting the podcast,
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the creativity that goes into
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it, the way that people show up, open,
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vulnerable and honest for conversations.
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It's something that's very rare in today's
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world, and we are deeply grateful to have this
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space. And we only have it because all
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of you show up, and so I
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hope you too will take a little bit of a
11:29
break and just relish
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in your loved ones, whether they're your family
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or your chosen family. And
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let's all come back to each other rested
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and loved and happy, and let's
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dive back in sending love,
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happy New Year to all of you.
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