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you're going to be a

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0:52

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0:54

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not just about the immutable

0:58

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1:01

the medium of podcasting as

1:03

well. Tonight you will bear

1:05

witness to The Impossible as

1:08

my co-host Jamie and I, live,

1:10

and in real time, travel through

1:12

time. going out forever in a

1:14

month or so, but we all

1:17

knew the end was near. Nothing

1:19

to be done from here. So

1:21

I shook my head and on

1:23

to bed I go. Hello and

1:26

welcome back to World Gone Wrong

1:28

where two roommates try and make

1:30

sense of the strange and crazy

1:32

world and get our intro out of

1:34

the way as quick as possible. Which

1:36

wouldn't be a problem if one

1:38

of us wasn't late. I'm a

1:40

leak and I'm only late because

1:42

the bus has stopped running in

1:44

anticipation of the... And I'm Jamie.

1:46

Oh look at her. Interrupting me. I

1:48

remember when she paused not knowing when

1:51

to introduce herself. They podcast grow up

1:53

so fast. listen to this you'll probably

1:55

have been through one yourself. But we

1:57

thought it would be interesting as podcasting professionals.

1:59

to document our own experience for posterity.

2:01

Instruction. Right. This particular time distortion wave

2:04

should be fairly tame. They're calling it

2:06

a 10-year rewind, so no surprises or

2:08

trigger warnings to worry about. Right. No

2:10

one's gonna blink out of existence or

2:12

discover their own deaths. I actually know

2:14

someone who... No. Really? From my college,

2:16

and it was only five-year fast-forward too.

2:18

God, are they okay? I mean, can

2:21

you be? Knowing is bad enough, but

2:23

there's also the experience of... being dead

2:25

to deal with, like he felt it

2:27

being trapped in utter darkness, his body

2:29

decaying. I really hope that's just a

2:31

time distortion thing and not a when

2:33

you actually die thing. Yeah, I think

2:35

we all do. Anyway, none of that

2:38

here. We're just gonna be our teenage

2:40

selves again. Which might be bad enough.

2:42

Sass. This could happen any minute now.

2:44

I just want to say that we

2:46

at World Gone Wrong. Do not recommend

2:48

or endorse this, especially for parents of

2:50

young children. If you're in the path

2:52

of a time wave, please. Um,

2:58

hello? Hi? Hi, Jamie, right? And

3:00

you're Malik? Oh, it's Malik. I

3:03

assume you have a note too?

3:05

Dear Jamie, this is your future

3:07

self. I know, I know, I

3:10

know. Here are five things only

3:12

we know to prove this is

3:14

real. Oh, and then there's a

3:17

list of embarrassing things that I'm

3:19

not going to repeat. Malique and

3:21

I are making a podcast about

3:24

this time travel experience. I can't

3:26

believe that's a real sentence any

3:28

version of me ever wrote. Please

3:31

just engage with it. It'll all

3:33

make sense. I promise. Well, future

3:35

self. I'm here. I'm engaging with

3:38

it and it still does not

3:40

make sense. Mine is much nicer.

3:42

Dear Malique. Hello, my sweet summer

3:44

child. Definitely me. We are in

3:47

the middle of a podcast chronicling

3:49

the experience of actual time travel.

3:51

Capital TV. time capital T travel

3:54

I know I know this is

3:56

Jamie who you'll meet in years

3:58

to come don't worry she's very

4:01

cool I'm not that cool also

4:03

invest in zoom like the kids

4:05

show I guess see yeah this

4:08

is weird right very weird I

4:10

mean this is my handwriting and

4:12

this is my handwriting and this

4:15

is my handwriting and this is

4:17

my handwriting and this is my

4:19

handwriting and this is my handwriting

4:21

and this is my handwriting Like

4:24

some of this stuff I don't

4:26

recognize. I don't even know where

4:28

I am. Like some apartment? I

4:31

could be anywhere. Uh, no. I

4:33

recognize those best sounds though. So

4:35

I am still in Chicago. Oh,

4:38

we should probably do this podcast

4:40

thing. Oh, what kind of podcast

4:42

though? Like are we a chat

4:45

show? Are we an interview show?

4:47

Are we expected to have guests?

4:49

Or is the draw the charismatic

4:52

banter between the hosts? You seem

4:54

to have given their own podcast

4:56

at some point, right? Sure. Unfortunately,

4:58

the market's already bloated. Maybe if

5:01

I'd got in like 10 years

5:03

ago? When you were five? Eight.

5:05

Thank you very much. Oh, maybe

5:08

we're doing a journalism. Like that

5:10

new show serial. Have you listened

5:12

to serial yet? No. Oh my

5:15

God, you have to. It's so,

5:17

it's so good. Are you into

5:19

journalism? Oh God, no. I mean,

5:22

either. And I don't think we

5:24

could be doing like a radio

5:26

drama. Well, not really radio. Like

5:29

an audio fiction thing, you know,

5:31

like old time radio. War of

5:33

the world and the shadow, those

5:35

things. Well, it's like that, only

5:38

it's for podcasts. Are you like

5:40

an actor? Not unless aliens came

5:42

down and swapped out my personality.

5:45

Me neither. I mean, I've done

5:47

performance, but more of just things

5:49

I've written than anything like with

5:52

characters. What do you write? Poetry

5:54

mostly? Poetry slam. Oh, that's um...

5:56

I know what poetry slam is.

5:59

Oh! Cool. Coolio.

6:01

That's what I'm in

6:03

school for at the University

6:07

of Chicago. Poetry?

6:09

Yeah. What about you?

6:11

Are we really doing a

6:14

what's your major? Getting

6:16

to know you. Getting

6:18

to know all about

6:20

you. Maybe I was an

6:22

actor. I don't really know

6:24

yet. Something to do with

6:26

research maybe... Like science research? I

6:29

mean... Or like data analysis? Like

6:31

is your research more studies

6:33

or like computer stuff? Let me

6:35

answer. Sorry, I shouldn't have interrupted

6:37

you. No, it's okay. I just... I

6:40

don't know. Everyone wants me to

6:42

know exactly what I want to do and

6:44

have a goal and have a plan. Is

6:46

it your parents? Parents can

6:48

be like that. No, no, actually

6:51

my dad is fine with it.

6:53

Just dad? That is really, none

6:55

of your fucking business. Sorry,

6:57

sorry, I know, I, I pray.

7:00

Jesus. I have a big family,

7:02

mom, dad, grandma who lives with

7:04

us, three brothers, two sisters,

7:06

and I'm the youngest. Never

7:08

would have guessed. I'm sort

7:10

of used to snooping, I guess.

7:13

It's, okay. I just, this is so

7:15

stupid. What is me. doing a

7:17

podcast? Like, assuming this is all really

7:19

happening and I'm not about to wake

7:21

up or end up on some stupid

7:24

reality prank show, future me should know

7:26

better than to put me on a

7:28

podcast. I don't like to talk about myself

7:30

in real life. Why the fuck would

7:32

she think I'd want to talk about

7:34

myself to like a thousand people on

7:37

a podcast? Is a thousand people a

7:39

lot for a podcast? How should I

7:41

know? I'm just saying, probably it's just

7:43

like your dad and my grandma.

7:45

Oh, hey, Well, what about you? Are you

7:47

all about this podcasting life?

7:49

Oh yeah, this was definitely

7:52

my idea. You do seem a little

7:54

more outgoing. Oh, you don't need

7:56

to be outgoing to do a

7:58

podcast. You just need... a persona. A

8:00

persona? Yeah, a performative version

8:02

of yourself. Like, the you

8:04

that gets up in front

8:07

of the class to do

8:09

a report is not the

8:11

same as the you who

8:13

hangs out with your friends.

8:15

It's more presentational for your

8:17

audience. And what sort of

8:19

persona do you think I

8:21

have? Hmm. From my extensive

8:23

knowledge of you, you would

8:25

be the... I'm trying to

8:27

think of a better term

8:29

than straight man. Definitely not

8:31

a man and also... Never

8:33

mind. Hmm. How about foil?

8:35

That's a good not a

8:37

man term. A foil for

8:39

my exuberance. The voice of

8:41

reason. Someone who takes things

8:43

seriously and brings us back

8:45

to reality when we fly

8:47

too far afield. Does that

8:49

sound a bit like you?

8:51

I mean, it doesn't not

8:53

sound like me. Wait. Are

8:55

you saying I'm not fun?

8:57

Not what I said. You

8:59

said exuberance. Well, we already

9:01

established I'm the outgoing one.

9:03

I can be exuberant too.

9:05

I can be fun. No

9:07

one's saying you can't. I

9:09

just... I can be a

9:11

lot. I know. My family

9:13

is big and when we

9:15

get together, it can take

9:18

a lot to get noticed.

9:20

Also as mentioned, I'm the

9:22

youngest. So you're getting energy

9:24

and need for attention from

9:26

both sides. That's... Probably not

9:28

terrible for me. I can

9:30

be, if we're going to

9:32

psychoanalyze ourselves, I sometimes need

9:34

someone to pull me out

9:36

of ruts. See? And that

9:38

can be what I bring

9:40

to our podcasting partnership. I

9:42

guess. As long as you

9:44

understand that I am fun.

9:46

Hey! Hey, look at me.

9:48

I'm having fun. Okay? Probably

9:50

the most fun I've had

9:52

in a while. That's really

9:54

sad. I didn't mean. No,

9:56

um... It is. I am.

9:58

Kind of. I'm sorry.

10:00

It's fine. I'm just... College

10:02

is a whole thing. I'm

10:04

used to having my family

10:06

and most of them have

10:08

moved away, like all over

10:10

the place away, and we

10:12

talk on the phone and

10:14

text and stuff, but, you

10:16

know, it's not the same.

10:18

And now I'm in college

10:21

and I'm in a dorm,

10:23

and my roommate is some

10:25

business major who I'm pretty

10:27

sure isn't exactly comfortable with

10:29

the gay black kid who

10:31

sleeps across from him. but

10:33

he's too afraid how it'll

10:35

come across if he says

10:37

so. Oh, fuck him. Yes,

10:39

but also, absolutely not. He's

10:41

not that cute. Anyway, I

10:43

guess I haven't really had

10:45

someone to talk to. This

10:47

is basically the best conversation

10:49

I've had. Although, also not,

10:51

I guess, because am I

10:53

really me or am I

10:55

just a deaged older me?

10:57

Yeah. Ooh, what kind of

10:59

time travel rules do you

11:01

think we're dealing with? Right?

11:03

Like are these back to

11:05

the future rules? Can we

11:07

change the future? Are we

11:09

going to fade away or

11:11

accidentally invent rock and roll?

11:13

I'd assume not. Though your

11:15

future sells. Ooh, can we

11:17

call them the old? Yes.

11:19

So your old gave you

11:21

an investment tip. Knowing me,

11:23

it's probably just a joke

11:25

for himself. I mean, I'm

11:27

not exactly the investment type.

11:29

We won't truly know until

11:31

we reage and find out

11:33

if you're rich. Personally, I'd

11:35

be more inclined to believe

11:37

we're in a close-loop system,

11:39

like 12 monkeys. I don't

11:41

know what that is. Terminator?

11:43

That, I know. The first

11:45

two, at least. There are

11:47

only two. The point is,

11:49

by those rules, anything we

11:51

might try to do here

11:53

won't have any effect in

11:55

the past because we always

11:57

did them and would do

11:59

them, and so everything works

12:01

out the exact same way.

12:03

Although, That one I have

12:05

seen. Not that I think

12:08

we're in a time loop.

12:10

I just don't think we

12:12

can affect anything around us.

12:14

Like, we'll just be reset.

12:16

So the olds trying to

12:18

record us are going to

12:20

wake up to an empty

12:22

sound file? I mean, that's

12:24

possible. That would be really

12:26

stupid. Not saying we're stupid

12:28

or our olds are stupid,

12:30

that situation would be super

12:32

stupid. A universal stupid? Yes,

12:34

the universe is stupid. As

12:36

we live in an indifferent

12:38

and stupid universe, most likely,

12:40

that would be the case.

12:42

Alternatively, we could live in

12:44

a less stupid universe governed

12:46

by doctor who time travel

12:48

rules. Things only matter when

12:50

we want them to, otherwise,

12:52

who cares? Who, otherwise, who

12:54

cares? Ooh, I like Doctor

12:56

Who rolls. Yeah. So what

12:58

are your poems like? Only

13:00

the most epic displays of

13:02

lyrical recitation since the haughty

13:04

days when the epics of

13:06

the world passed from poet

13:08

to poet through memorization and

13:10

improvisation. But like what topic?

13:12

Depends on my mood. Sometimes

13:14

something serious or personal. Usually

13:16

about some boy I like.

13:18

Okay. Can I can I

13:20

hear one? Okay, sure. I

13:22

usually keep some notebooks somewhere

13:24

around here. Oh, here. Wow.

13:26

What is it? What's the

13:28

feeling where you pick up

13:30

a completely filled beaten up

13:32

old notebook that you only

13:34

just bought? I believe that's

13:36

called what the fuck. In

13:38

that case, allow me to

13:40

utter a most existential what

13:42

the fuck. What the fuck.

13:44

Okay, um, hmm. Here is

13:46

one I wrote a few

13:48

days ago. Me, me, not

13:50

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13:53

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we're back. Meaning we are back the

15:00

olds. Ugh, I did not expect so

15:02

much shade to be thrown at us out

15:04

of the past. Yeah, use those days, am

15:06

I right? Get off the lawn, I don't

15:08

have, because home ownership is an

15:10

unattainable pipe dream of a

15:12

bygone era. Okay, Zuma. So, the

15:15

experience of being young again. Thought.

15:17

Definitely weird. Definitely. It's

15:20

strange because the memory I have

15:22

of what happened. I remember it

15:24

chronologically. If that makes sense. I

15:26

remember it happening a few hours

15:28

ago, not 10 years ago, but

15:31

I remember it as me from

15:33

10 years ago. Yeah. How does

15:35

that even work? How does any

15:37

of this work? Tishe. The

15:39

detransition was certainly interesting. Oh

15:41

how it was gradual. Yeah, like

15:43

the wave was sudden, but then

15:45

the way everything slowly aged back up.

15:48

Yeah, I could have I could have done

15:50

without some of that. What do you mean?

15:52

Just the twinge in my knee from when

15:54

I dislocated it fading in or the 20

15:56

pounds I've put on since I was 19

15:58

pushing its way out. Oh. Please, you look

16:01

gorgeous! Okay, I'm not saying that

16:03

I don't. I'm just saying, I

16:05

was definitely in better shape when

16:07

I was on a roller hockey

16:09

team. And the sensation, the pressure

16:11

against the inside of my skin

16:14

was, it was unsettling. I was

16:16

thinking of the way memories kind

16:18

of slid into place. Like someone

16:20

shelving books. Leave it to the

16:22

librarian to come up with that

16:24

metaphor. Simile, actually, I said like.

16:27

You've had one tusche, yes, but

16:29

what about a second tusche? What

16:31

are your thoughts on the whole

16:33

time travel thing? The more mature

16:35

knowledgeable thoughts of one who has

16:37

experienced life? Oh yes, those. No

16:40

idea. What about you? Well, I've

16:42

been thinking about this as a

16:44

trip into the past, right? A

16:46

tenure rewind, we'd be transformed into

16:48

our younger bodies, but now I

16:50

feel like it was the opposite.

16:52

A trip into the future for

16:55

our past selves. So do you

16:57

think things can change based on

16:59

what our past selves see? Am

17:01

I rich now? No. No, and

17:03

also no. It's pretty obvious we

17:05

can't affect past events from these

17:08

temporal distortions, but, but we here

17:10

in the present can learn things

17:12

about ourselves. Things we might have

17:14

forgotten. I definitely forgot how kind

17:16

of, were people still saying emo

17:18

in 2014? No idea. How emo

17:21

I was back then. And defensive.

17:23

My mom's death was only a

17:25

couple years before and I was

17:27

still several years out from dealing

17:29

with any of it. And I

17:31

could see, feel, yeah, I could

17:34

feel elements of my depression that

17:36

were present, but that I wasn't

17:38

aware of at the time. Or,

17:40

or I can now, thinking and

17:42

listening back to it. I know

17:44

what you mean. I totally forgot

17:47

I was once a lonely little

17:49

college freshman. Possibly on purpose. Yeah,

17:51

I have a hard time imagining

17:53

you without like a posse no,

17:55

no a passle of friends. Ooh,

17:57

passle, good word. I thought you'd

17:59

like it. Well, listener, it is

18:02

true. I too have felt, gay

18:04

gasp, alone. I know, I know.

18:06

But do not worry about younger

18:08

me too much. He would soon

18:10

find his people amidst the student

18:12

center open mics and the gay,

18:15

gay parties. Yes, that's right, both

18:17

the meanings. And after years of

18:19

fieldwork and the art and craft

18:21

of extra version, he would emerge

18:23

as the exceptional podcast host, poetry,

18:25

1001TA, and hospitality professional, you hear,

18:28

before you. So maybe rewines are

18:30

less about traveling into the past

18:32

and more about offering our present

18:34

selves perspective. Unless that perspective is

18:36

not being born yet. It's an

18:38

imperfect theory. Where does that land

18:41

us vis-a-vis the rules of time

18:43

travel? I'm going to go with

18:45

a controversial choice. Freaky Friday. Body

18:47

swap is not time travel. Okay,

18:49

listen, that is true. Body swapping

18:51

is not time travel, but much

18:53

like what we experienced, the body

18:56

swap is not meant to be

18:58

a way to change your past,

19:00

but gain perspective on your present

19:02

through a glimpse of a life

19:04

you either previously led or will

19:06

someday lead. And so, I feel

19:09

it is apt. What about you?

19:11

Well, I was far more grounded

19:13

and followed the rules of the

19:15

assignment. Disney's The Kid, starring Bruce

19:17

Willis as a man who is

19:19

visited by his younger self. I've

19:22

never seen that. No spoilers, but

19:24

its use of time travel is

19:26

very much what you've been describing.

19:28

Not about changing the past, but

19:30

in gaining perspective about yourself. About

19:32

healing and deciding how you want

19:35

to move forward in the future.

19:37

Oh. Another good example of that.

19:39

A Christmas Carol? Oh my gosh,

19:41

yes! Why didn't we say that

19:43

at the beginning? Listeners, pretend everything

19:45

we just said we did not

19:48

say. It was all in reference

19:50

to Charles Dickens' literary classic, A

19:52

Christmas Carol! Well I like our

19:54

versions better. It's more exuberant. But

19:56

people will take us more seriously

19:58

if we're referencing... something classical and

20:00

literary. But does that make for

20:03

good podcasting? Or do the people

20:05

want authenticity and relatability? I will

20:07

say, it's nice to know that

20:09

even though I might have been

20:11

a little defensive and you were

20:13

a little too nosy, our past

20:16

self still would have ended up

20:18

as friends. Even back then. Really?

20:20

You think so? Don't you? I

20:22

didn't get the impression your young

20:24

self was all that fond of

20:26

me. But you forget. I have

20:29

her memory. And talking to you,

20:31

improved her mood drastically. She definitely

20:33

would have found you again. Oh,

20:35

just goes to show, I guess.

20:37

You never know the full impact

20:39

you have on a person. You

20:42

can't see this listener, but Malique

20:44

just gave me a... Is that

20:46

an okay or a chef's kiss?

20:48

Hey, why not make it both?

20:50

Which I guess is the signal.

20:52

He thinks this is a good

20:55

place to wrap up. You don't

20:57

plan an ending, you feel it.

20:59

Like a force pulling you through

21:01

time, begging you to conclude. Before

21:03

we go, let's do a quick

21:05

reminder about supporting the show. Oh,

21:07

yes. Listener, if you enjoy our

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charming adventures into the past, please

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consider helping us out. You can

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And all these things help us

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it's awesome. All of that is

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at audacious machinecreative.com. Yes, and tell

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21:49

and wanna reach more people navigating

21:51

through this strange upside-down world. So,

21:53

if you like hanging out with

21:55

us, invite your friends to do

21:57

the same. I think that's it.

21:59

Do you wanna plug your? So

22:01

yes, thank you so much. Okay,

22:04

on Apocalypse Cabaret, it's coming up.

22:06

We've decided on Tuesday the 21st

22:08

of November. Still working on the

22:10

exact time frame? Assume, evening, the

22:13

hours of adulthood. Unin' fucking

22:15

your lives with us. Do you

22:17

think you'll be able to make it

22:19

on the 21st? That's it. Let's talk

22:22

about that off, Mike. Yeah, okay.

22:24

Anyway, from me, Jamie. And

22:26

me, Malik. Please remember, we

22:28

may live in an indifferent

22:30

and stupid universe, but we

22:32

hope your baseline, and we

22:34

wish you all a better tomorrow.

22:36

And even when it's ashes, they'll

22:39

be part of me, that wishes

22:41

we could stay. Jamie and Malique

22:43

are played by Hillary Williams

22:46

and Michael Tarentime. This

22:48

episode was written by

22:50

Jay Gregory Moran. Directed

22:52

and edited by Jeffrey Mills

22:54

Gardner. Our show art is

22:56

by Carly Fairbanks. And our

22:58

bang and theme song is falling

23:01

in love at the end of

23:03

the world by Olivia and the

23:05

Lovers. World Gone Wrong is

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produced and created by

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Jeffrey Mills Gardner and

23:12

Eleanor Hyde. of Audacious

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