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Now onto the show. Here's
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your money briefing
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for Wednesday, April
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16th. I'm Julia
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Carpenter for the Wall
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Street Journal. Had you
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dreamed of buying a
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home this spring? Or maybe
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you're still hopeful about refinancing? Last
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week's turbulent market might have upended
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expectations for buyers, sellers, and homeowners.
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So if you're putting everything you
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have into your home and we
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know that the home prices are
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up, we also know things like
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home insurance, property taxes, homeowners, association
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fees, all those things are so
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much higher now than they were
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in the past. And so to
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take on this big responsibility during
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a time where things may feel
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unstable for you, it may not be
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the right decision. We'll hear more from
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Wall Street Journal reporter Veronica Dagger on
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how a volatile stock market can affect
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recent market volatility means some
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house hunters are reconsidering their
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timelines, and homeowners may be
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thinking twice about refinancing.
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But how should you strategize
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going forward? WSJ reporter Veronica
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Dagger joins me. Veronica, homeownership
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is still such a core
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part of building wealth in
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this country. Can you talk
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a bit about how instability
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in the market affects house
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hunters? It's so tough to be a
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house hunter today. It's actually been tough
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for quite a while just because there's
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such a shortage of inventory, not a
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lot of homes for sale, and lately
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mortgage rates are going in the wrong
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direction. They're going up earlier this week
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I looked and they were at 7.07%
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and that's for mortgage news daily. And
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that's really discouraging to a lot of
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buyers who are already facing high home
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prices. There's so much house hunters
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can't. control and you interviewed some financial
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professionals who suggested instead focusing on what
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they can control. What did they have
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to say? Exactly. Focus on things like
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your budget, how much home you can
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afford, not taking on too much debt.
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Also, think about your job. Are you
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feeling stable in your job right now?
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Think about your overall cash flow. Again,
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you don't want to be saddled in
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debt if you're already facing high student
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loans and credit card bills. And also
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understand, like, you don't have to be... a homeowner
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anymore. That's less of a societal norm. It
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still is very popular. A lot of people
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still want to do it, but some people
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want to rent for the rest of their
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life, and that's okay too. You don't have
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to fit into a certain mold. You have
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to do what's best for you and your
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budget and just feel secure and be able
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to sleep at night with whatever decision you
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make. A lot of people put everything they
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have saved into buying a home and moving
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in, but you wrote in your story that
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being house poor now could be more dangerous
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than ever. Yes, because Akani is feeling
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pretty unstable for a lot of people,
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more CEOs are expecting recession in the
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near future, that could mean more layoffs.
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Also, if you're putting everything you have
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into your home and we know that
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the home prices are up, we also
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know things like home insurance, property taxes,
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homeowners, association fees, all those things are
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so much higher now than they were
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in the past. And so you've got
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this budget for just the basic upkeep
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of your home, also repairs, cost more,
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all these things are so much more
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expensive now. And so to take on this
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big responsibility during a time where things may
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feel unstable for you, it may not be
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the right decision. You have to do what's
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best for you, maybe you don't feel any
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of these cross currents, maybe you are feeling
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stable and that is fine, then go for
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it. But you just don't want to be
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in a situation where essentially you need a
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new roof for your home, but you're worrying
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how you're going to pay for it, or
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you're going to have to rack up all
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this credit card debt in order to pay
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for it. As someone who doesn't own
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a home but who really wants to,
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you're definitely making me feel a little
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better and comforted, but for those who've
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already become homeowners, what does this turbulent
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market mean for them? It's one of
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those things that if you plan on
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staying in your home for quite a
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while you probably don't have to worry
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a whole lot. Again, if you can
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make your mortgage payments, you probably don't
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have to think too much about it.
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It's only the folks who are really
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looking to sell right now and need
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to unload that house. are finding some difficult times,
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depending on where they live in the country.
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For example, if you're in the South, places
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like Texas or Florida, you're probably going to
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have to lower the price of your home
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in order to sell it. You're probably not
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going to see bidding wars depending on where
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you are, and your home is going to
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sit on the market longer. However, if you're
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a seller in a place like New Jersey
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or New York, you're still going to see
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those bidding wars in general. You're still going
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to get multiple offers, top dollar for your
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home. Your story, which is linked
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in our show notes, mentioned
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an intriguing possibility for some
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homeowners that they could ask
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their lender to modify their
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mortgage rate for a set
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fee. How does that work?
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And what are the advantages?
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Any disadvantages? Not every lender wants
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to do this, they only want to
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do it for people with certain credit
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scores, they only want to do it
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for people who are of certain income
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level, so there's a lot of if
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to this, and also not every lender
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does it. However, if you're able to
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reset the mortgage rate, you essentially call
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up your lender, ask for them to
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reset it to current rates in the
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market, there's usually a fee, maybe about
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$2,000 or so, depends on the lender,
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they don't have to approve you for
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you for it. It's sort of an
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alternative to a full refinancing, a
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whole refinancing. It's a lot more
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paperwork, a lot more expense, and
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a bigger headache for folks. But
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this rate reset, it's easier to
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do, and folks like it. And
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when you say that it's only
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available for people with a certain
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income or a certain credit
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score, I'm assuming that means high
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income, high credit score. Generally, yes.
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Well, you mentioned that rates are
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going higher. So much in home ownership
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depends on that mortgage rate. Can
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House hunters and homeowners alike expect
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to see lower rates any time
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soon or even later this year?
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We have been hoping for that
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kind of lowering of rate significantly
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for at least the past year
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and it hasn't happened. and what
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keeps happening is the rate keeps bouncing
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around, range bound and the sixes, and
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now we're going up again. It's very
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difficult to bet on rate changes, decreases.
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There's a lot of people out here
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right now who were hoping that this
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was the year that they were going
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to be able to refinance. And they
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can't. And some folks are having trouble
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making their mortgages because of that. We're
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seeing this just like a little bit
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on the margins, a little bit more,
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especially people who are lower income homeowners.
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We're seeing a little bit more delinquencies. Not
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in a big way yet. But it's something
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to think about. If you are banking on
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refinancing and that day doesn't come when you
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need it to come, you could be in
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a tight situation budget wise. That's WSJ
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reporter Veronica Decker. And that's
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it for your money briefing briefing.
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If you want to hear more
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about what the housing market has
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in store, catch up on our
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recent series, Buying a Home in
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2025, Navigating the Crunch, we'll link
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to it in our show notes.
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This episode was produced by Ariana
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Asperu with supervising producer Melanie Roy.
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I'm Julia Carpenter for the Wall
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Street Journal. Thanks for listening!
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