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This is the Woo-Wai podcast.
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Podcast. weekly no -nonsense life
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you to master your
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awesome you. We're your
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hosts, David James Lee's
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and Alexandra Lee's. This
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week we are talking all about
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perfection. Now do you do
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you always strive for perfection
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in your life, maybe your
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your your your or your career?
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or your Perhaps you are your
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own worst critic and you
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are always fault with yourself. Well,
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what if you could let
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go of this driving need
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for perfection and embrace who
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you truly are you your
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unique journey? Well, this is
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what we'll be discussing today. we'll
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be discussing today. Okay David
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so why is it that
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we are always David,
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so why is it that or
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are always striving for perfection
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or always kind of
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criticizing ourselves fault finding? is a
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really big subject big it's
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one I speak to
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my clients a lot about
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I speak have this kind
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of about. They have idea this idea, this
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goal that they're trying to
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reach to reach, they were
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perfect perfect, then everyone would
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like them and love them.
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Everything would work out just
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as they wanted it as they
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They could future They themselves. prove
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Things would go the way go
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they way They would never
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be what we call be what we
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call CCJ criticized compared or been judgmental.
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And so they've And so they've
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got this aim that they're
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heading like a It's like a
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journey. And I always have this
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image of the donkey the cat. always
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trying to grasp, but
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they never get there.
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Yet, they do not
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give in. They continue.
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My little adage on
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this is perfection is
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a perception. Perfection doesn't
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exist in anything you
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do. But that part
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of the mind that
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I call the inner
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child doesn't want to
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let that go. So
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is our inner child
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striving for self-preservation, self-protection, and
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it believes that if I'm perfect,
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if everyone likes me, if I
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do everything right, if I achieve
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everything that needs to be achieved,
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then I'll be okay? It is
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what I call the utopian or
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the Disney world kind of idea
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that that part of our mind.
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And for those of you new
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to this teaching perhaps we should
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spend just a moment to describe
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what we mean when we say
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the inner child. And we're talking
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about a part of the mind
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that was kind of frozen in
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time. win your childhood around the
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age of six to nine years
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old. And it's almost though, although
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you mature and you're grown up
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and you're highly intelligent, this part
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of the mind has got these
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kind of patterns of thinking and
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this perfection is one of them.
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So even though you know intellectually
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doesn't make sense. Even though you
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know it's wrong, it's almost like
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you can't let it go. As
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one of my clients says something
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very interesting to me. It's like
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a drug. It's like I can't
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let go of this drug. I've
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got to keep on trying to
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get it. But David, I think
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that part of our mind, if
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we call it the inner child.
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It does kind of make sense
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to it because we get that
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drug hit when we do get
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say recognition or we do make
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an achievement. We do get that
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small drug. It doesn't last long
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and then we're still chasing the
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next thing, we're still trying to
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improve the next thing, or we're
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still comparing ourselves to the next
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person who would perceive as better
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as us. But for some reason
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that small drug hit seems to
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be enough to keep driving us
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on this hamster wheel of self-criticism
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and striving. That's right and I
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think what's getting even worse in
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my experience working with clients is
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the social kind of media being
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on social because that's almost like
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another you've got it the way
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you look. what car you drive,
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the way you dress, the size,
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the size you look, you know,
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your career, you're always being kind
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of compared with or you're always
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driving. So I think right now,
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this is this is the worst
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time that this perfection and moving
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away and being better and driving
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yourself. And a lot of my
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clients will say, what is my
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motivation? Keep me going. Put it
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to motivation that can't. you can't
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sustain? So it's learnt behaviour in
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childhood initially so we want to
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be a good boy or a
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good girl for our parents so
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we want to be the best
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we can be and we're always
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watching for that kind of parental
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or feedback from our parents, guardians,
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teachers, important adults in our life
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and then we carry the belief
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that we need to be perfect,
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we need to be the best
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into adulthood. and that
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self-doubt, that comparing, that criticising
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is then reinforced as you
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say by consumer society, social
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media, and also the fact
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that you know nowadays, particularly
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on social media, where we
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spend a lot of time
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consuming stuff, false
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realities are presented
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of people's
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lives lives. So we are
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not only not only
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comparing ourselves, but we're
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comparing ourselves to other people's
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illusions they're presenting. presenting. And it's perverse.
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It's self -harming in a
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way. a way. if you go
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right to the heart
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of this, and it goes
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right to the heart
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of the it goes right to the
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this goes back to understanding
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this goes you already have
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an innate. have an innate
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and worth. worth. You
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don't have to look outside
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externally to get get this validation.
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so if And so if
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you're looking for any kind
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of validation, just
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think of that word, of
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the giving of value. That's
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what validation means. And
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how can somebody give you
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give you? what you've already got.
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And here's where the inner
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child part of our mind
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steps in mind they do
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not believe they already have
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it. They do not believe
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it's inherent, it's innate. They
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believe it has to
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be earned or given to
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them. them. And that that sentence,
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that teaching, that that really
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is the core of
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this teaching. That's the
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question to ask yourself. Do
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you believe you have
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an innate worth and
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value? that? Or do Do you believe
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that? Or do you believe
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that worth and value is something
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that has to be to of
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given to you you or somehow on
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you earn it? have to earn
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it? Because if you believe that,
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then you're on what I
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call the carousel of despair. a
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It's like a hamster on the
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wheel, running faster and faster
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and faster faster with this... force goal
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of perfection. When I
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reach the utopian perfection, then
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everyone's going to give
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me what I want.
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want. this is the ideal
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of the inner child. Yeah,
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and I think if we
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hold that self-doubt, that then
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creates the drive to compare,
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criticize and be judgmental about
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other people and ourselves. Those
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people who are constantly criticizing
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and judging others. are doing
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it to themselves even worse.
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Even worse. Even worse. Again,
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this is what I find
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when I'm working with my
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fantastic clients. They are their
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own worst critic. They hate
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other people CCJing them. Let
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me repeat what CCJ means.
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Criticizing, comparing, or being judgmental.
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They dislike it intensely when
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somebody else does it to
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them. But they are the
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expert. They will do it
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to other people. And as
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you say, more destructively, they
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will do it to themselves.
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It will never be enough.
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Even if they reach their
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goal, they will set another
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goal. I call it the
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high jump syndrome, you know,
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in the Olympics when people
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jump over the high jump
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bar. Well as soon as
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you get close to jump
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it, guess what you do?
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Raise the bar. So you
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never actually jump it. And
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so David, a lot of
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people would say, well the
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teaching is all about embracing
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imperfection, but I kind of
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sense that the term or
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the connotations of the word
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imperfection is not a very
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spiritual not very dull it's
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not a very woo way
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concept so what is what
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are we aiming for here
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well the unit child would
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say imperfection because the unit
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child would see it as
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the emotional pendulum if you're
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not perfect then you go
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to the other imperfect
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and really if you picture
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in your mind now that
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pendulum what we're looking for
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is the center of that
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pendulum what we call woo
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way or being in your
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flow why can't you just
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celebrate your uniqueness I say
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to all my clients, there
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is no one in the
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universe like you. You are
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unique, and if that's not
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enough for you, I don't
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know what is, because you
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can't be better than someone
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else, and you can't be
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worse than someone else. when
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you start comparing that the
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inner child now saying I
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have to be better than
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them I have to be
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make more money than them
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thinner than them happier than
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them more successful than them
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or then the pendulum swings
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the other way, they're more
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successful than me. They're happier
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than me. They've got a
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bigger car than me. They're
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progressing in their career more.
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They had a better childhood
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than me. This is one
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I hear all the time.
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They had a much happier
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childhood than me. And so
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it's always running in this
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comparison. And this CCJ is
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another part of the drug.
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You get almost hooked into
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this CCJ. That you do
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do to everyone and CCJ
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and perfection. are brother and
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sister, they are linked. Yeah,
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I'm just smiling to myself
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because it's like, you know,
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nature, animals even, they don't
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compare, they don't criticize, they
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don't judge, they just get
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on and do, they focus
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on, they just do what
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they do and they just
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thrive and transform and except
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they're not looking around
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to say, oh, that
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dog's better than me,
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or that tree's better
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than me, just, and
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it's the ego that
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creates these artificial parameters.
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statuses, statuses,
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hierarchies. child, the ego strives for
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know, the inner of the ego
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strives for like a sense
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of completion and perfection. Once
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I get this completed, once I
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reach this point in status, in
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goal and then then everything will
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be okay. That will be enough. but
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the way the way the universe isn't. there
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isn't a completion and there's
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a there's a and a
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grain to life life
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that the inner the inner child. want
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to know because the inner inner of
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our mind is in this kind of
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polished. this kind of polished Disney
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world or it's aiming
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for like a polished where we
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are. where we are crowned
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the prince or princess you
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know crazy. I call
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it hand you know it's so
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crazy. Yeah yeah the inner wants
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to be special. be
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special so you either accept that
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there is someone special or somebody
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can't be special special or all special we're
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all that really is the and and
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what you were saying about the
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ego because we would call the
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ego the inner child we would put
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it as one of the same. the
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same So one of the things
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why the the inner a child ego
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want to do this. It
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means it has to be accountable.
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to be It has to now
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take responsibility for itself, for its
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progression. It can't blame other
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people. Oh, well, if it wasn't
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for them, if it wasn't for
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this, if it wasn't for
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my childhood, if it wasn't if it
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wasn't a child. child. wants
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to be able to shift
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the blame onto something else
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rather than stand up. And
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this is the spirituality of
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this teaching. You this
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you already you already,
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to this, you already
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have everything you need
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or will ever want,
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it's within you. you. This
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is what I would
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call your Shen, your
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innate spirituality. This is
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your birthright. And the
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moment you look to
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other people and say,
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I'm better than them,
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they're better than me,
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you are moving away
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from your journey. You
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are departing. I think
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about it like a
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fork in the road.
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And we have these
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choices almost daily. Do
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we walk our path
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of truth? Thank you.
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honesty and integrity and
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do we respect and
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honor our shed our
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spirituality or do we
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go down the other
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path where we're always
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comparing criticizing being judgmental
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being our own worst
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critic you know it's
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much harder to stand
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up on the stage
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and to act it's
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much easier to sit
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in the audience and
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criticize and the inner
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child will want to
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be in the audience
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we want to be
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in the audience we
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want to have the
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gravitas of being famous
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and being on stage
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but not one be
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on stage once it
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be in the audience
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and criticize. Yeah, and
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so I think there's
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a misunderstanding that the
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spiritual way, the authentic
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way means not wanting
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to self-improve. are authentic
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self-improvement without the like
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layering on top
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of the unrealistic,
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unhealthy drive for
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perfection and external
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and fuel by the self-doubt that
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we talked about. Well the two
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paths that you identified there Alex
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is the one path is you're
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going down this path and this
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relies on others external this relies
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on what other people think what
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the papers are saying what your
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social media is saying the way
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you should look. This other path
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which I would encourage you most
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strongly to follow the path of
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your spirituality doesn't rely on anyone
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else, but it does rely on
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you. This is your
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journey, this is your potential,
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this is what you should
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be responsible for. And again,
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when the inner child hears
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this teaching, it will absolutely
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want to push this away
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because when you are being
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responsible, it means other people
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can criticize you, will criticize
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you. They will
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criticize you, you will be
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criticized. Can I give you
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one of my best little
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mantras? Think about this, what
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other people think of me,
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is none of my business.
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because you will always be
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criticized. Now, do you want
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to be criticized going down
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this force road where you'll
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never win or just accept
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the criticism? And that's why
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this word acceptance is so
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powerful. Just accept, do you
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be criticized? Whatever you do,
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you'll be criticized. Everybody gets
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criticized. It's a human condition.
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You just smile and say
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thank you for your feedback
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while they're criticizing you. You
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can focus on your journey.
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Let them walk around the
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carousel of despair and you
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plot your course. You follow
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your journey. And David, I
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think if we can move
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a place of self-acceptance, but
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that we are on our
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journey, we are still going
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to develop and grow and
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not stagnate. But that acceptance
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of ourselves then transforms into
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acceptance of other people and
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acceptance of situations. Again, it's
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not being adormat, it's not
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putting up with inappropriate things.
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but it's almost like we
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take 30% of the edge
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of pressure off on things
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if we drop the CCJ,
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the comparing critter. And that
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frees us up so much
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to transform and grow and
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develop, but in a healthy
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way. So we still move
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forward, we still progress, we
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still move towards
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what we intend to move
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towards. But we do it
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in a way that feels
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good, that's full of green
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light, feelings of calm, peace,
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exhilaration, joy rather than stress,
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angst, pressure, self-loathing. And that's
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why you have to understand
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that inner child part of
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your mind, Alex, because the
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inner child part of your
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mind has what I said
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earlier. This idea of this
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Disney world, this utopian, where
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there's no problems, everything works
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out the way that they
19:29
wanted to, when they wanted
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to, in the way they
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wanted to. But that's not
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the reality that we live
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in. And so you're always
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going to be chasing this
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illusion. This is just made
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up from a child. And
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if you walk the other
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path, when you're connected to
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your shen, to your truth,
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to your honesty, to your
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integrity, problems still come. They
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come whichever path you take.
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There's no path that doesn't
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give you issues, problems, difficulties
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in your life. This is
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an illusion. But the difference
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if you walk the spiritual
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path, when those problems do
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come, you don't see them
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as barriers. You see them
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as stepping stones. You build
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bridges. You get through it.
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And that really is the
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teaching of woo-way wisdom. We're
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not offering you a life
20:27
where nothing ever goes wrong.
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We're saying, this is why
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we call these videos, life
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lessons. Every situation in life
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offers you a lesson. Now
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do you accept that lesson
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and learn from that lesson
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and build a bridge to
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get through this situation or
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do you go on to
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an illusion road where you're
20:51
going round and round thinking
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whatever was perfect then this
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problem would never arise it
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will still arise it will
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still happen so the choice
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is yours do you walk
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down this forced path? with
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this illusion that life will
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suddenly have bunny rabbits jumping
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in the field and roses
21:13
growing around the door and
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everything works out it's almost
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like it's like a Disney
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movie isn't it where the
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path just unfolds in front
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of you but that's not
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the universe the reality that
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we live in or do
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you equip yourself? like, as
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I often use the metaphor,
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like a sailor, a skilled
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sailor, sailing across the seas,
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knowing when to open yourselves,
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knowing when to close down,
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being able to read the
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tides and the winds and
21:48
using the stars, the North
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Star is your guide. So
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you may have to move
21:54
off course occasionally, but you're
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following what I would call
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ye, y I. and
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your potential. Don't
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worry about anyone else's
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journey, focus on yours
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and you will see the
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life lesson is perfection
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is a is a perception. This
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This doesn't exist, but
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what does exist? exist. What is
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real is is your spirituality,
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is who you really are.
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are. Wonderful. Thank you, David.
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And if you'd like to
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explore the subject some more,
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please check out the links
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to other the -form videos some
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guided meditations. I'll put in
22:36
the show notes for you
22:38
to help you get to
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grips with the subject and
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the issues around CCJ issues around CCJ
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