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Meanwhile in the Arndand, the
2:18
Americans have recaptured the initiative,
2:20
moving step by step back
2:23
over the lost ground. It
2:25
was an absolute death trap
2:28
for the Panzas. In the
2:30
lead was the Panzas of
2:33
first company. Then came our
2:35
company with SS Haukstern-Führer-Kurekert-Rodel in
2:37
my command. I myself was positioned
2:40
between SS over Shafjor and Boitlhauser, my
2:42
platoon commander. As I reached a point
2:44
near the church, I was given a
2:46
far taste of the dire events to
2:48
come. Boitlhauser catching it right in front
2:51
of me. We had already passed over
2:53
the second crossing. Then Boitlhauser caught it,
2:55
I was able to make out the
2:57
approximate position of the anti-tank gun. Boitlhauser
2:59
succeeded in getting out, and reaching a
3:02
place of safety safety, but the gun
3:04
there was hit by rifle fire-fireful fire
3:06
as he got out. I moved my
3:08
panzer behind a house that could not
3:11
be seen or fallen without at that
3:13
moment knowing what would happen. Near me,
3:15
Brodal's panzer was burning gently, with Brodal
3:17
sitting lifeless in the tide. In front
3:19
of me, further along the road, more
3:22
panzers had been put out of action
3:24
and were still burning. However, Van was
3:26
still moving. I think it was friars,
3:28
and under my covering fire, he was
3:30
able to move back to where the
3:33
unit was later engaged. Some of us
3:35
shot up Cruz who had hidden in
3:37
a barn took advantage of this opportunity
3:39
and likewise fell back with the panzer
3:41
protecting them for being observed. This enabled
3:44
them to escape being taken prisoner by
3:46
the American infantry surrounding them. Behind me,
3:48
as a stern Van Fjour Arnold Jurgerson's
3:50
panther, suddenly appeared. I realized that I
3:52
must abandon my hopeless position and tried
3:55
to pull... back behind the crossing. It
3:57
was clear to me that the American
3:59
anti-tank gun had anticipated this maneuver and
4:01
it was ready to fire on the
4:03
crossing. But that is just what it
4:06
did. The first shot missed. The second
4:08
hit the track and the hull on
4:10
the side. Fortunately, no one was killed
4:12
but the radio set was destroyed and
4:14
the track was almost unusable. I was
4:17
just able to follow the advice of
4:19
Jurgensen. Then the attack came off on
4:21
side and the running wheel sank in
4:23
the mud that later froze hard. The
4:26
whole attack had come to a standstill,
4:28
and our new position we made out
4:30
about 20 of the army in hollow
4:32
under Tarpolin, and then saw them quickly
4:34
emerging. So the army was still in
4:37
various houses in the part of the
4:39
village we had already occupied. Some of
4:41
them also ambushed are comrade band-off and
4:43
shot him through the heart while he
4:45
was unsuspectingly trying to camouflage tanks with
4:48
planks of wood. This happened quite close
4:50
to me, right under my eyes. And
4:52
that was an account of the fighting
4:54
in Kinkelt on the 18th of December
4:56
by the Panther Commander Villie Fisher from
4:59
third company SS Panser Regiment 12. You
5:01
did that absolutely magnificently, can I say?
5:03
Thanks Jim. The willage. I mean, the
5:05
drama. I've got to say, if I
5:07
was German, I'd quite like to be
5:10
called Boitlhauser. I'd like to be called
5:12
Boital Hazar, but I wouldn't want to
5:14
be taking some panzer up into a
5:16
village crawling with Americans with bazookas and
5:18
57 mils, you know, six pounds or
5:21
whatever. I mean, no way. Yes, I
5:23
mean, what will come increasingly clear is
5:25
the importance of American artillery in its
5:27
various forms in this battle. And here
5:29
we have it, you know, the anti-tank
5:32
gun anticipating the maneuver of the Panther,
5:34
being unable to do anything about that.
5:36
and just getting clobbed. I mean, just
5:38
fascinating. But we promised at the end
5:40
of the last episode that we were
5:43
going to talk a little bit about
5:45
the Battle of the Twin Villages and...
5:47
so we are but before we do
5:49
that we need to talk about what's
5:52
going on in the in the high
5:54
command really yes yeah we do at
5:56
the end of day one beginning of
5:58
x plus one yeah yeah the 17th
6:00
of December so huge problems for the
6:03
Germans you know the trouble is that
6:05
the temperatures are not freezing You know
6:07
that it's cold, it's miserable, there's low
6:09
cloud, inevitably there's been not a single
6:11
sign of the 2000 Luftwaffe of fighter
6:14
planes that have been promised. Because surprise,
6:16
surprise, it's loud. There's a reason why
6:18
they're doing it when they're doing it.
6:20
Oh God! I know, I know, it's
6:22
so mad, isn't it? I can't do
6:25
the contradictions, Jim, I can't deal with
6:27
them. No, I know. We live in
6:29
a world of contradictions, and this is
6:31
just enhancing enhancing that. But what it
6:33
means is that the ground is just
6:36
really, really badly chewed up by the
6:38
kind of vast weight of traffic, which
6:40
is going over roads which are just
6:42
not designed for that. You know, these
6:44
are roads that are constructed in the
6:47
19, you know, reinforced in the 1920s
6:49
and 1930s, then predominantly dirt roads. And
6:51
as we've said before, you know, they're
6:53
designed for kind of the odd light
6:55
car, kind of, you know, horse-drawn vehicles,
6:58
you know, they're just not designed for
7:00
massive great pansansa tanks that has happened.
7:02
Well, that was happening at the time,
7:04
because after all, in that earlier episode,
7:07
Hitler's saying, well, our tanks are fewer,
7:09
but they are superior to American tanks,
7:11
or the Americans may have more, but
7:13
ours are better. Or for all the
7:15
sort of tank purving that goes on
7:18
around German panzers, these vehicles are problematic
7:20
on these kind of roads. They're just
7:22
are, you know, and particularly this time
7:24
of year. And even simple things like
7:26
all the gradients mean if you're driving
7:29
uphill, you're burning more fuel. Also, I
7:31
mean the other thing that's going on
7:33
is don't forget we have an airborne
7:35
operation tied up in all this. Oh
7:37
my god. Yes. I mean, it's just
7:40
total, total fiasco. Yeah. Operation Stossa. Of
7:42
course, they're trying to do an airborne
7:44
operation in the winter. So the weather
7:46
is going to, the weather gets a
7:48
vote with airborne operations far more than
7:51
in a, you know, normal ops. And
7:53
with transport aircraft. whose crews are not
7:55
experiencing operating with airborne troops. Sam familiar
7:57
anyone? Oh God! Well I mean given
7:59
the Germans invented this sort of form
8:02
of operational art is a bit, you
8:04
know, it's all a bit desperate and
8:06
kind of tragic really. They dropped 200
8:08
men near Bonn, only 10 of the
8:10
aircraft. get anywhere near the drop zones.
8:13
This sounds positively British. The winds are
8:15
very strong. It's very sisily, isn't it?
8:17
It's very sisily. Winds are very strong.
8:19
Yes, tick. Hardly anyone landing where they're
8:21
supposed to. Tick. Wow. Men landing being
8:24
blown onto the propellers of aircraft behind.
8:26
That's a new one. Right? Yeah, yeah,
8:28
yeah. Even the Brits over Americans over
8:30
Sicily didn't do that. Oh God. So
8:33
by dawn of X plus 1, Fondahator,
8:35
who's been, you know, sprung from the
8:37
Faucien-Yager Academy, has only 150 men, the
8:39
200 is supposed to drop. So at
8:41
least they're making their rondo views, most
8:44
of them. They haven't got their weapons
8:46
canisters, and they've only got eight of
8:48
the 500 pans first, they've come with.
8:50
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, von der I thinks
8:52
it's been an utter failure and I
8:55
think we can. An utter failure. I
8:57
think we can agree with that. He's
8:59
not 90% successful, 80% successful, 10% total
9:01
cock-up. Total cooker. The great news is
9:03
that we don't have to linger any
9:06
further on that. We can just pin
9:08
it. That's the end of that, yeah.
9:10
That's the end of that. Operation Stossa
9:12
is Alice Caput. Alice Caput, yeah. Meanwhile,
9:14
in the US High Command, you know,
9:17
there's something to realise that the Germans
9:19
have broken through in five different places
9:21
with clearly the most threatening position in
9:23
the Los Angeles Gap and around the
9:25
106 Golden Lions Division. But you know,
9:28
the Americans are, you know. slow to
9:30
kind of realize what's happening in many
9:32
ways. So General Hodges, of course, is
9:34
the command of the first, US First
9:36
Army, and he's thinking that the German
9:39
assault is only a spoiling attack. By
9:41
the afternoon of the 16th Assembly, he's
9:43
realized it's something much bigger. Bradley is
9:45
also slow to realize. Bradley's out of
9:48
sorts, isn't he? Yeah. At this time.
9:50
He's not feeling very well. No. He's
9:52
feeling a little bit kind of disgruntled
9:54
about everything. because it was dragging on
9:56
the burdens of command all that kind
9:59
of stuff and I don't I don't
10:01
think he's a kind of laugh a
10:03
minute kind of guy anyway is it
10:05
no he's not he's just very serious
10:07
sort of which doesn't mean he hasn't
10:10
got a sense of humor he does
10:12
but he's just he's out of sorts
10:14
so he's out of sort so he's
10:16
with like but he's with like to
10:18
realize to realize he's out of sorts
10:21
so he's with like but he's with
10:23
like to go to see like they're
10:25
drinking to see like they're drinking to
10:27
see like they're drinking And smoking 400
10:29
camels. Exactly. And as they get the
10:32
news, Ike goes, no, no, no, this
10:34
is the real thing. Bradley's saying this
10:36
can't be an offensive because there's no
10:38
strategic objective there. And he's right, of
10:40
course. I think we've made our point
10:42
in the last few episodes that, you
10:44
know, only a madman would do. Herb
10:46
Snabel just so happens that a madman
10:48
has ordered this attack. Or someone who's
10:50
lost all sense of reality. Yeah, completely.
10:52
And so Ike makes orders. And one
10:55
of the things, of course, Hitler's banked
10:57
on, is the fact that Ike won't
10:59
be able to order reinforcements because he'll
11:01
have to check with his bosses, because
11:03
that's what his field marshals or generals
11:05
of the army, as it were, would
11:07
have to do, wouldn't they? You know,
11:09
so he's judging the Americans by their
11:11
own standards. already gone and pattern to
11:13
transfer 10th armored division. So reinforcing from
11:15
the South as well from third army
11:17
and Simpson does it straight away. Simpson
11:19
is just so easy. He's the real
11:21
deal. Yeah, he's a tremendous guy. Yeah.
11:23
And so by 10 p.m. on the
11:25
16th, I mean, it's Simpson rings back
11:27
and says two hours later, they're on
11:29
their way. You know. it's all done.
11:31
Hodges then at 10 p.m. on the
11:33
16th, Hodges who's been numbing and aring,
11:35
orders second division to stop its attack
11:37
on the Roar Dam and move back
11:39
to the Elson Board Ridge which is
11:41
the which is the sort of next
11:43
peat stretch of the corrugated iron we
11:45
were talking about in the last chapter
11:47
and actually when you get to the
11:49
top of there as we did where
11:51
there's a big radio mast you really
11:53
you can see everything laid out in
11:55
front of you can't you from up
11:57
there. Yeah but again it's not particularly
11:59
high. is it? No, no, no, no,
12:01
but it's that relative high ground and
12:03
there's the main road running along. Yeah,
12:05
exactly. Main road running along it. And
12:07
he sends the big red one or
12:09
in the thick of it. They're sent
12:11
to... Well, don't forget they'd also been
12:14
in the hurt gun. You know, they're
12:16
the ones that are involved in the
12:18
Battle for Arkansas, as well as being
12:20
on Omaha Beach, on D-Day, etc. etc.
12:22
etc. So they're sent down as well,
12:24
in pretty much, on Omaha Beach, on
12:26
D-Day, etc. etc. etc. So they're sent
12:28
down as purpose... civity on the American
12:30
side at this stage. Well, actually, you
12:32
know, they're diverting from an offensive here.
12:34
They're not sat around. And I can't
12:36
even begin to stress how difficult that
12:38
is to suddenly, you know, your head,
12:40
because everything is moving, it's, think of
12:43
it as a sort of the gyro
12:45
effect, how difficult it is to kind
12:47
of deviate. Once your gyros kind of
12:49
rotating in one particular direction, to then
12:51
make it. go in another direction is
12:53
quite actually quite difficult and this is
12:55
the same you've got this you know
12:57
a divisional attack is quite a machine
12:59
yeah because everything's suddenly pointing one way
13:01
yeah and they're all using roads that
13:03
have been worked out to resupply with
13:05
ammunition with food and everything in one
13:07
direction so to move them in another
13:09
direction it's not just a case of
13:11
charging across a field at 90 degrees
13:14
to the route you've been doing you've
13:16
got to backtrack you've got to turn
13:18
around out your supply lines and your
13:20
in your frontline troops have got to
13:22
pass through your echelons, but echelons have
13:24
got to follow up behind. So the
13:26
logistics of changing from one direction to
13:28
you know 90 degrees heading southwards is
13:30
really really complicated and it's made more
13:32
complicated by the fact that you're actually
13:34
suddenly moving quite a lot of units.
13:36
So in this case two armored divisions.
13:38
two infantry divisions. They've all got to
13:40
use, you know, all trying to get
13:43
to the same direction. So there's then
13:45
competition for roads. This is not a
13:47
straightforward operation at all. We've talked about
13:49
this before, but when armchair historians criticize
13:51
the allies for slow movement, they are
13:53
simply not... comprehending, understanding, taking into consideration
13:55
enough, the complications and difficulties of moving
13:57
a formation of 15,000 men that is
13:59
entirely 100% mechanised. You know, you're talking
14:01
hundreds of vehicles in a division. Hundreds,
14:03
if not thousands. I mean, you know,
14:05
it is a lot. Making sure they
14:07
don't all bump into each other, get
14:09
tangled up, get confused. You know, and
14:12
also once you start organizing artillery and
14:14
everything, making sure you're not going to,
14:16
you know, shelling your own side and
14:18
all that. formation is timings all of
14:20
this stuff incredibly difficult you know one
14:22
field battalion of 24 guns is probably
14:24
half a mile road stretch yeah you
14:26
know at least that you've got the
14:28
truck you got the gun you got
14:30
the ammunition they've all got be towed
14:32
you've all got be towed you know
14:34
24 guns by the time they're strung
14:36
out that's what you're talking about and
14:38
that's just one field battalion that doesn't
14:40
include your your medical corps it doesn't
14:43
include food your supply lines it's your
14:45
supply lines it doesn't include your supply
14:47
lines it's your supply lines component all
14:49
of that component all that you know
14:51
so it is it is a big
14:53
big big complicated thing and someone's got
14:55
to work this out in a pre-digital
14:57
age you know that's the point and
14:59
then work it out agree it with
15:01
their bellow units decide it except it
15:03
issue the orders enact the orders yeah
15:05
yeah which is why those combat command
15:07
you know from the 7th, armored and
15:09
night far, and aren't likely to be
15:12
supporting the 106th on the Schneee Eiffer
15:14
or, you know, backwards on the, on
15:16
the, our, Blyalfe Ridge by the dawn
15:18
of the 17th of December. It's just
15:20
not going to happen. All I'm thinking
15:22
of when we're talking about this is
15:24
the some poor fried staff officer thinking,
15:26
I've done it all, you know? I've
15:28
got to, I've got to, I've got
15:30
to unpick all this and start all
15:32
over again, to start all over again.
15:34
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People don't, you know,
15:36
when they're talking about all this stuff,
15:38
they don't talk about this. Yeah. Combat
15:40
Command B of the 7th, you know,
15:43
got stuck in a bit of traffic
15:45
and wasn't there till the 18th. In
15:47
one sentence you have just dismissed a
15:49
whole kind of bucket load of trouble
15:51
and I think it is worth spelling
15:53
it out. Why this is just not
15:55
a straightforward activity? There are no motorways
15:57
down which you can just burn and
15:59
jump off at Junction 23. It's not
16:01
like that. And these are roads which
16:03
are for the most part not tarmac.
16:05
Yeah, I mean of course it isn't.
16:07
Right, so the 17th of December, so
16:09
X plus 1. And I think it's
16:12
quite interesting. We're heading south, 28th Division
16:14
Front, 116th pans up front, send 13
16:16
Panthers to bolster the Pans of Grenadier.
16:18
I mean it's not very many. And
16:20
as a result, there's a great big
16:22
tank and artillery battle that follows. By
16:24
the afternoon, most of 116 Pansa's armour
16:26
is committed to taking Oran. again this
16:28
is you know it's an exploitation force
16:30
which is being used in the breakthrough
16:32
yes they're supposed to be rolling on
16:34
through great tank country aren't they're not
16:36
they bogged down trying to take a
16:38
river a late afternoon US 112th infantry
16:40
this is on the 17th this is
16:43
X cross one still the same day
16:45
given permission to pull back to the
16:47
ridge behind or out after dark this
16:49
has succeeded in holding up a fifth
16:51
Panzer army for a second day for
16:53
a second day and then 112 infantry
16:55
and then 112th infantry and revered northwards
16:57
back towards St Witt which is off
16:59
becoming a sort of you know magnetic
17:01
place as the battle progresses. Yes, so
17:03
in the, in the, it's worth just
17:05
saying that in the 28th division, this
17:07
is Norman Cota's mob, it's 112, 110th,
17:09
109th infantry regiments. The 112 pushes north
17:12
and it veers north and joins up
17:14
the factory with the 424th of the
17:16
Golden Lions. So that that regiment that
17:18
was isolated on the southern, on a
17:20
southern limb from the other two are
17:22
from the Schnee Eiffel, comes back and
17:24
pulls back to a little place called
17:26
vintage belt. What's interesting is that the
17:28
424th is sort of veering slightly southwards
17:30
and backwards westwards. 112th is veering slightly
17:32
northwards, so they're coming alongside one another,
17:34
even though they're from different divisions. Well,
17:36
I mean, that's the nature of this
17:38
particular beast, isn't it? And now you
17:41
get, I mean, this is the absolutely
17:43
extraordinary fighting that starts to develop around
17:45
St. Vitt. A hundred and tenth infantry's
17:47
front. Yeah, so this is a bit
17:49
further south, this is Neklervo. Yeah. these
17:51
ridgelines running kind of sort of roughly
17:53
south. So once you get off the
17:55
skyline drive, which is the one that's
17:57
west of the Urem, and down to
17:59
the Urem, you've got this this region,
18:01
it drops down from these villages along
18:03
the top of this skyline drive down
18:05
to the kind of a significant town
18:07
which is is clever. And this is
18:09
where the 110th infantry are. So then
18:12
then the next one down from 112,
18:14
all part of the 28th division. And
18:16
this is, I mean, this is extraordinary.
18:18
It's 31, 31, and 2,000 Americans. So
18:20
Fuller's got two battalions, you know, who
18:22
are pretty scrappy after Hurtgan anyway, and
18:24
they're hit by elements of three pan's
18:26
divisions and two infantry divisions. It's just,
18:28
ladies and gentlemen in the notes, Jim
18:30
simply writes, yikes. And I think that
18:32
sums it up. But they basically, they
18:34
hold a string of villages, 110th, they
18:36
try to hold a string of villages
18:38
on a ridge line, and it's second
18:41
pounds of division, 116th pounds, 26 volts,
18:43
Grenadier. This is what they'd be doing
18:45
on the 16th on X Targ. The
18:47
Germans, you know, are using battalions against
18:49
companies and battalions against platoons because the
18:51
Americans are fighting tooth and nail. And
18:53
I think it's very interesting because the
18:55
Balk action, for instance, that we talked
18:57
about at Lazard. You turn a Balk,
18:59
yes. Yeah, he's known about, right? and
19:01
is one that's gone in the record,
19:03
but there are loads of those kind
19:05
of actions happening all over, where eventually
19:07
people are overwhelmed and maybe they're all
19:09
killed or they're all captured and we
19:12
don't know the full story. But the
19:14
Americans are fighting like that everywhere because
19:16
if the Germans are having to deploy,
19:18
you know, companies against platoons or battalions
19:20
against platoons, it's not going well, is
19:22
it? No. There's no blitz in this
19:24
particular bit of creek. Well, there isn't
19:26
is there? It's shit's creak, it's really,
19:28
it's shit's creak. Fuller is called, Norman
19:30
Cota calls Fuller and says, you're gonna
19:32
hang on to the whole lot of
19:34
cast. Hurley, Furlough. And he knows, he
19:36
knows what that. Hurley Harland. Be a
19:38
very good gym. He's got early. I
19:41
think you'd be a different person if
19:43
you're called Hurley Holland, Jim. You know
19:45
how names, names, names, register who you
19:47
are. Yeah, owners and dogs and all
19:49
that. Exactly, Hurley Harland. From now on
19:51
I want to be known as Hurley.
19:53
But you know, he's told to fight
19:55
to the last round last man by
19:57
Kota. Yeah, and that kind of is...
19:59
really what's going on at this point.
20:01
700 and this is this is the
20:03
ridge to clever and the clever road
20:05
protects the road into Bastoyne. So and
20:07
that's a kind of our first or
20:09
maybe our second mention of Bastoyne in
20:12
this so far. I think for those
20:14
of you who if you've come at
20:16
the Battle of the Bulge too popular
20:18
culture, the fact that we've only mentioned
20:20
the B word once or twice is
20:22
an indication of how much more there
20:24
is to this battle than perhaps that
20:26
perception. So 707th Tank Battalion is sent
20:28
forward to Manach in hope for keeping
20:30
the road. Manach is one of those
20:32
villages on the skyline drive. Yeah, and
20:34
they're there to keep the road blocked,
20:36
but by the morning, Germans are almost
20:38
in Clervo, 110th Regiments are to lose
20:41
down to one battery, and that 7
20:43
seventh have lost eight Shermans which have
20:45
been picked off. But the point is,
20:47
this fighting is again, the Germans second
20:49
day, but don't want to be fighting
20:51
here. And there's a castle, isn't there?
20:53
A big castle in the middle. So
20:55
clever is amazing because the river kind
20:57
of runs around it in one of
20:59
those sort of snaking things. And it's
21:01
got this deep-sided escarpment running around the
21:03
town and then they're down in the
21:05
bottom. Yeah. encased by the river and
21:07
this sort of steep escarpment, wooded escarpment,
21:10
is clervo itself of its castle right
21:12
at the centre and it's all very
21:14
kind of sort of middle Europa. I
21:16
mean it's very cool. It's actually a
21:18
lovely place, it's a lovely little town
21:20
now, but the castle is you know
21:22
a thick walled bastion. There's no getting
21:24
away from it. Yeah, cotas hold up
21:26
though, isn't he? No, he's sort of
21:28
a back, but fuller back, but fuller,
21:30
but fuller is, yes, yes, yeah, full
21:32
as headquarters headquarters, full as headquarters, is
21:34
headquarters, isn't it, isn't it, isn't it,
21:36
isn't it, isn't it, isn't it, isn't
21:38
it, isn't it, is head quarters, isn't
21:41
it, isn't it, War film cliches, as
21:43
we all know, is the sound of
21:45
a piano playing between the crashes of
21:47
shells. Yes, but it really happened. It
21:49
really happened on this occasion. It's a
21:51
GI playing Debusi's. reflections in the water
21:53
without a note missed. Yes, as the
21:55
shells are crashing all around him. I
21:57
love it. But the amazing thing is
21:59
the Americans just don't really give up.
22:01
They get overrun, but they don't give
22:03
up. They're not throwing in the towel.
22:05
By nightfall on the 17th December, X
22:07
plus 1, the Germans are in the
22:10
town. They're swarming through the town, but
22:12
there are still little American outposts and
22:14
snipers. At 6.25 p.m. Fuller abandoned his
22:16
headquarters. but then he his headquarters and
22:18
most of Company G are captured and
22:20
that shows you just how how last
22:22
minute they've left it, how they have
22:24
taken coaters worse to hold on at
22:26
all costs. They've taken it very literally.
22:28
And some Americans who hold out in
22:30
the shadow right through the 18th and
22:32
December. In other words, they're still not
22:34
throwing in the towel and they're still
22:36
not throwing in the towel and they're
22:38
still making life difficult for the Germans.
22:41
You've then got to kind of stop
22:43
and pause and kind of winkle them
22:45
out. And all this of course just
22:47
eats up time. the more their whole
22:49
operational plan starts to crumble very very
22:51
badly. And the action of the 110th
22:53
infantry regiment around skyline drive and monarch
22:55
and the town of Clervo is just
22:57
an epic. It's an absolute epic. They
22:59
get overrun, they get lost, they get
23:01
put in the bag on all the
23:03
rest of it. But the damage they
23:05
have inflicted over two days is immense
23:07
to the Germans. All the German momentum
23:10
has gone. Already those pans of divisions
23:12
are being sucked into this nutritional battle
23:14
rather than the exploitative battle. Then 106
23:16
division. So pushing northward, so we started
23:18
the last episode, we started X-Day going
23:20
in the north and working southwards, we're
23:22
now starting in the south and working
23:24
northwards. 106 divisional artillery pulls back, pulling
23:26
back to Shomburg, and there's a, we
23:28
did it then and now when we
23:30
were there recently, there's that 90 millimeter
23:32
tank gun in the grotto on the
23:34
road. Yes, just as it's climbing out
23:36
of the town. Yeah, exactly. We're a
23:38
rather nervous-nervous-looking-looking crew-looking crew looking crew on
23:41
the on their anti- nine in the
23:43
morning. I mean, the problem is the
23:45
German units behind them, they're pulling back
23:47
to Germany, the Germans are going around
23:49
them. Because the man toyful's looking to
23:51
encircle rather than just bash at the
23:53
American lines. By nine, the four 22nd,
23:55
four 23rd are surrounded, but the Germans
23:57
have been ordered to keep going. So
23:59
there are gaps and there are men
24:01
streaming through the lines the whole time
24:03
and trying to reorganize themselves and get
24:05
together, aren't there. So these two regiments,
24:07
they set up airdrops, but. comic command
24:10
be accorded traffic they're not going to
24:12
arrive and they're they're this is part
24:14
of the confusion from the phone call
24:16
as well who's where and why they're
24:18
there and all that sort of stuff
24:20
at quarter to three and when does
24:22
it get dark well sort of five
24:24
yeah so there's only eight hours of
24:26
daylight this time the daylight's really running
24:28
out so quarter to three orders are
24:30
issued for the two regiments to withdraw
24:32
they don't get the orders until midnight
24:34
it's all so unfortunate for these guys
24:36
everything just doesn't join up It's an
24:38
unhappy ending really. And we were up
24:41
in those hills above Schoenberg the other
24:43
day and we were wandering around and
24:45
finding all these fox holes of this
24:47
stand by the 106. You could absolutely
24:49
see them, couldn't you, all in a
24:51
row? And then on the 18th, they're
24:53
ordered further instructions to come at half
24:55
or seven in the morning to get
24:57
out and to go to said Vitt,
24:59
but they can't, they can't do it.
25:01
they try putting in a counter attack
25:03
and all this stuff but they run
25:05
out they've run out of ammunition. Yeah
25:07
and actually the decision has been made
25:10
on the afternoon of the 18th that
25:12
combat command B of the 7th and
25:14
combat command B of the 9th just
25:16
cannot get to them so that they
25:18
are not going to an attempt to
25:20
go and rescue them they are going
25:22
to hold the line out of Sam
25:24
Witt instead. Yeah and so I mean
25:26
basically they surrender. They're on their own
25:28
so they surrender so that four 23rd
25:30
surrender the afternoon the afternoon of the
25:32
afternoon of the 19th, four 22th, four-
25:34
four- four- four- four- four- four- four-
25:36
four- four- four- four-four-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two-two- And it's not
25:39
an every man for yourself thing, isn't
25:41
it? The commanding officer goes, you know
25:43
what, we're going to have to throw
25:45
in the towel here. And this is
25:47
Kurt Vonnegut's part of this, isn't it?
25:49
And this is the thing where he
25:51
says I... I joined the wave of
25:53
humiliation. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And this
25:55
is 7,000 guys going in the bag,
25:57
which is the biggest single setback for
25:59
the American, for the US Army, in
26:01
Europe, in the European Theatre of Operations.
26:03
Yep, yeah, yeah. It's a bad moment.
26:05
It's a very, very bad, a low,
26:07
low, low moment. I'll tell you what
26:10
we'll do. We'll take a break and
26:12
we'll look at what's happening in the
26:14
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26:16
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had no Welcome back
28:00
to we have ways of making
28:03
you talk. We just ended on
28:05
the rather down moment of the
28:07
biggest surrender in the US Army.
28:09
It's not good, is it? Yeah,
28:12
but it needs, requires context. I
28:14
mean, you know, absolutely. Don't forget
28:16
that's still the 19th for December.
28:18
So that is, you know, 16th,
28:21
17th, 18th, 18th, that's the fourth
28:23
day. So they're holding up German
28:25
troops until that point. You know,
28:27
Sam Vitt is absolutely key to
28:30
the success of the Fifth Pansarami
28:32
and then they're nowhere near Sam
28:34
Vitt at this point. Well, they are,
28:36
they're near it, but they're still haven't got...
28:38
It's not good enough. They're not there. So
28:41
what we're going to do now is we're
28:43
going to look at the... frost of first
28:45
SS Pansakor through the Los Angeles Graben in
28:48
the next episode because that of course is
28:50
Camp grouper Piper and we're going to do
28:52
a whole episode if not two on KG
28:54
Piper. The notorious Kgee Piper I think. The
28:57
notorious Kia, yeah the infamous Kgee Piper. So
28:59
we're going to go through that next but
29:01
in this one we're going to leapfrog over
29:03
the Los I'm Graben and head back
29:06
to that northern bit in the
29:08
Krenkelterwald and the battle of the two
29:10
villages because and the... last episode when
29:12
we were up there we were looking
29:14
at the we were saying how the
29:16
12 SS had been brought in earlier
29:18
than the price the commander of first
29:21
SS Pansagore had wanted to because the
29:23
Volts Grenadier divisions just simply couldn't get
29:25
through the woods the valve quickly enough
29:27
but by the morning of the 17th
29:29
they are starting to kind of push
29:31
their way through yeah and it's absolutely
29:33
clear that General Joro of the is
29:35
it Joro I think we keep getting
29:38
this wrong Joro General Giro, who is
29:40
the command of the Fifth Corps, which is
29:42
part of Hodges' first army, is sort of
29:44
the head of Hodges in reading the situation.
29:46
And he recognizes that the two villages of
29:48
rock around Kinkel, need to be held absolutely
29:50
as long as possible, because he can see
29:53
where the frost is coming. It's coming through
29:55
this forest. Once you get through the other
29:57
side of the forest, you have to get
29:59
through Kringelt. and Rockerart before you can start
30:01
moving on to the Elsonbourne Ridge. The key
30:03
thing about the road that passes through this
30:06
and goes up onto Elsonbourne Ridge is this
30:08
is the quickest road to the Murs and
30:10
indeed subsequently to Antwerp. So this is why
30:12
this is so important. Yeah, and when you're
30:15
there, I mean we were there in January,
30:17
the traffic rolls through there, you can tell
30:19
it's a major thoroughfare, there's enormous log lorries
30:22
coming through the town, hurtling through the town,
30:24
gigantic lorries. You know, the issue here of
30:26
course is we've gone from, they've gone from
30:28
fighting in woodland and then rolling country, and
30:31
now they're basically in a built up area,
30:33
which if you're armor. is hugely problematic. Well,
30:35
yes, but even before they get to the
30:37
villages, they've got to get past these blocking
30:40
positions. And what's really interesting is, is there
30:42
are these roads that lead out of Krinkelton
30:44
Rockarad, which then bifurcate again and bifurcate again,
30:46
and where these roads all converge ahead to
30:49
the east of the villages, is an obvious
30:51
blocking position. And one of the key ones
30:53
of these is at Lorsdale. And the Lorsdale
30:55
Crossroads is a scene of an epic, epic
30:58
defense. An amazing, amazing defense. Yeah, so by
31:00
dawn of the 17th December, the 99th Chequeboard
31:02
Division is still fighting in the woods. And
31:04
that allows Girao to organize these blocking positions
31:07
because... The second infantry division, which had been
31:09
where the Golden Lions were on the Schnee
31:11
Eiffel, has been moved north of this assault
31:13
on the Rurd Damms, and that Rurd Dam
31:16
assault has now been cancelled, and they've been
31:18
sent southwards. But actually, you're only talking about
31:20
kind of five, six miles, something like that.
31:23
Yeah, so I've got a huge distance to
31:25
go. So let's just go through this kind
31:27
of sort of bit by bit, shall it?
31:29
So 1230 PM on the 17. So this
31:32
is X plus one, this is way more
31:34
than way more than 24 hours on. Camp
31:36
grouper Mueller of the 12th SS Hitler-Eugen division
31:38
finally emerges from the Krenkelterfeld. There's these two...
31:41
trails that go through, you know, main trails
31:43
that they're using. One of the, is the
31:45
Schwarzenbrook Trail, which is Roll Barnet, and they
31:47
finally emerged, and we walked down that route,
31:50
didn't we, little bits? Yeah. And I mean,
31:52
you know, you're so catalyzed by this trail.
31:54
you know which is basically a forest track
31:56
it's like a dead straight forest track that
31:59
runs straight through the through the middle of
32:01
it you can shove your drone up and
32:03
there's your straight line going through and it's
32:05
all pine trees and you know thick as
32:08
you like you know you can tell what
32:10
you like but no pamper tank is getting
32:12
through that wood yeah so the only way
32:14
they're going to get through is by these
32:17
trails and that is a total bumper kind
32:19
of thing this is lying the stern yeah
32:21
rather than line of rest. And that means
32:24
that at some point, your point man has
32:26
got to take the lead and just emerge
32:28
into the open from the forest, which makes
32:30
it very, very vulnerable. Yes. And the Americans
32:33
exploit this completely. So in the afternoon, Count
32:35
Ficopa-Muller ran into a blocking position by men
32:37
for 23rd infantry, who are from second infantry
32:39
division, and two shermans, at the 741st tank
32:42
Italian. who lost nearly everything on Omaha Beach
32:44
on D-Day when they sent in first too
32:46
early and all sank. This blocky position, again
32:48
you said a moment ago, it's all about
32:51
time, they hold them up till dusk. and
32:53
they do a good job of it. And
32:55
so yes, but you know for four hours
32:57
basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Lieutenant Colonel
33:00
William D. McKinley, who is, is he his
33:02
nephew? He's a nephew of President McKinley. Yeah,
33:04
who was assassinated. Who's the tariff man, of
33:06
course. He's the man he likes. Trump's idle.
33:09
Yeah, hero. He's the commanding officer first night
33:11
victory from second division. They get to the
33:13
two villages and he rushes forward. It's basically,
33:16
it's country lanes that sort of separate. There's
33:18
a farmhouse, isn't there? There's a farmhouse just
33:20
on the left-hand side. That's right, the road
33:22
goes up to the farmhouse. Yeah, and the
33:25
other one goes straight on. There's fields on
33:27
the right, just up ahead, literally, kind of
33:29
half a mile away is the Krenkaltavalt. undulating
33:31
it's not you know it's not flat but
33:34
it's not particularly hilly you can see you
33:36
feel the fire is pretty good isn't it
33:38
yeah and actually you know it's great tank
33:40
country in summer it's great tank country in
33:43
summer but in the winter not so great
33:45
and he says streams of men of vehicles
33:47
were pouring down the firest roads through the
33:49
junction and wild confusion and disorder control of
33:52
the 99th division have been irretrievably last and
33:54
the stragels echoed each other with remarks that
33:56
the units have been surrounded been surrounded surrounded
33:58
and annihilated. but he goes no we're not
34:01
having that then well you can tell he's
34:03
a second division man not a 99th division
34:05
man to be there but you know yeah
34:07
and he basically he gets cracking doesn't he
34:10
they put out anti-tank mines and they dig
34:12
in and change of anti-mines on the roads
34:14
that found yeah they've got bazuka teams yeah
34:17
By 6.40 p.m. the German armor under cover
34:19
of darkness passes the roadblock. So this is
34:21
just a handful of Panthers managers just sidestep
34:23
it. And again, when you're standing on that
34:26
crossroads, it's not really crossroads, is it? It's
34:28
like a fork of different prongs. You could
34:30
see how they could just cross the fields
34:32
to the south and squeeze past. And one
34:35
of the reasons they do is because they've
34:37
been told that there's some Americans and tanks
34:39
up ahead. And that's how these two tanks
34:41
get, you know, these couple of Panthers managed
34:44
to get across. Yeah. But, and so these
34:46
two tanks get past and do hit another
34:48
crossroads, which hits the first battalion of the
34:50
38th infantry, which is also part of the
34:53
2nd Infantry Division. you know there's very very
34:55
vicious fighting discover the 57 millimeter anti-tanker which
34:57
is of course is a British six pounder
34:59
yeah he's not so hot against Panthers yeah
35:02
not on the front of a panther it's
35:04
all right side and rear but it's the
35:06
front armor it can't deal with yeah and
35:09
so but bazuka teams are much more effective
35:11
not least because they're much more renewable you
35:13
can sort of scuffle around of course you
35:15
know this is a dark you know it's
35:18
six forty m m m m m it's
35:20
pitch black apart from kind of the flicker
35:22
of lights from explosions and so on. So
35:24
you know you can do stuff with in
35:27
stealth which you know this is why the
35:29
British have a thing that you know you
35:31
don't use tank. after dark. Yeah, for precisely
35:33
this reason. Because you can't defend them, but
35:36
you know, the Germans are in a rush,
35:38
they haven't made choice. And you've got desperate
35:40
stuff though. Guys running up to tanks and
35:42
pouring petrol on them and setting them on
35:45
fire. There's a man, oh God, what was
35:47
his name, who's killed there, who climbs on
35:49
a panther and uses the machine gun on
35:51
the panther on the Germans. It's absolutely desperate.
35:54
They're all right on top of each other
35:56
stuff. It's incredibly impressive, isn't. for this sort
35:58
of total non-entity of a patch of land
36:00
about which no one cares very much, apart
36:03
from if you actually live there. You know,
36:05
it's incredibly inconsequential in the big scheme of
36:07
things, but in this moment, you know, the
36:10
fighting is just absolutely ferocious. You know, so
36:12
basically these two sergeants of McKinley's lot, and
36:14
basically this is known as a task force,
36:16
this is effectively a battle group, this is
36:19
an ad hoc. you know this is stragglers
36:21
from the 99th infantry who are and pulled
36:23
in on this this is forward observation officers
36:25
from a different artillery unit this is a
36:28
handful of tanks and it's men from different
36:30
units here are you know based around the
36:32
first battalion but there's also men from the
36:34
third battalion here because there's company K isn't
36:37
there is the third battalion of the 9th
36:39
infantry so they're all thrown together and they
36:41
just sort of get on with it and
36:43
two sergeants of McKinley's first battalion run up
36:46
to this disabled pamfer So basically the panfers
36:48
come through, the first one has been knocked
36:50
out, but it's still firing. And with both
36:52
its machine guns and its main gun. And
36:55
so these two soldiers go up in the
36:57
darkness and they decide to get round the
36:59
back of it and pour petrol on it.
37:01
And at that moment the hatch opens at
37:04
the top of the panfering. And someone lobs
37:06
out a grenade and they jump to it
37:08
and run and one of them gets badly
37:11
wounded, doesn't he, by the blast of a
37:13
grenade. but they then in turn throw a
37:15
phosphorus grenade onto the back of the pamper
37:17
which then ignites the fuel a whole thing
37:20
bruise up yeah it's amazing and 15 minutes
37:22
after that event a lieutenant stalks a tiger
37:24
tank and knocks it out of of Bizuka.
37:26
It's absolutely amazing. That's all, you know, 8.30
37:29
p.m. that night, the 17th. Finally, you know,
37:31
the full weight of Camp Group and Mueller
37:33
attacks McKinley's lot at the Lausdale crossroads. And
37:35
17 hours of fighting follows. Yeah. that night
37:38
in while the fighting is going on at
37:40
last or four yagged pansers which is a
37:42
sort of which is a pans of four
37:44
chassis with a 88 on it I think
37:47
yeah I think so maybe a 75 I'm
37:49
not sure but I've lost the anti-tank gun
37:51
tons of variants yeah yeah and a platoon
37:53
of pans grown it is they measures will
37:56
get past allows a crossroads but they're still
37:58
being held up there that's the point yeah
38:00
not driving through it they got to go
38:03
around it this is the point so the
38:05
following morning 18th December at this point? So
38:07
at dawn at 830, Company K of the
38:09
9th are overrun. And this is a lot
38:12
which is by that farmhouse that we mentioned
38:14
just a little bit. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:16
And there's a very good picture that one
38:18
of them drew of the landscape. One officer
38:21
left, 10 deep GIs managed to pull back.
38:23
During the morning, the German armour gets into
38:25
Rockaracht. But again, the Pansa Grenadier's infantry, infantry
38:27
support that the tanks need a cut down
38:30
in the attack, and 12... SS lose lots
38:32
of their armor to bazooka teams and and
38:34
actually 57 mill guns because the quote at
38:36
the start we had from Villy Fisher was
38:39
about a crew on a 57 mill doing
38:41
for him well yes that's happening in the
38:43
middle of the day on the 18th December
38:45
the same day it's not until 1 p.m.
38:48
that McKinley's lot pulled back from the Lausa
38:50
crossroads under the cover of four Shermans of
38:52
the 741 tank battalion yeah and they they
38:54
managed to scuttled back and there's then house
38:57
to house to house fighting in rocker out.
38:59
In rocker out, yeah. Which is what Fisher's
39:01
talking about. Five Panthers get to Kinkel and
39:04
they do manage to shell the American command
39:06
place, but they lose four of them. Four
39:08
tanks are lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That amazing
39:10
photograph of those two Panthers knocked out outside
39:13
this house with a kind of sort of
39:15
farmhouse attached to it. And that's still there
39:17
in the kind of main drag in rocker
39:19
out, isn't it? And you can, you can,
39:22
you can, you can go. there match up
39:24
the then and now photograph of it. Completely
39:26
matched up. And then in the evening, Major
39:28
General Walter Robinson, who's the commander of second
39:31
dive, he orders a withdrawal to Vertfeld, which
39:33
is a couple of masterwares, so shorten his
39:35
lines, tidy up. Yeah. But the point is,
39:37
that's the end of the 18th. Three days.
39:40
Three days? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Squandered. And at
39:42
that point, price orders of the 12th SS
39:44
pull back completely, and leaves the third Pans
39:46
of Grenadiers, who anyone who's listened to any
39:49
of our Italian podcast will be familiar with
39:51
them, from southern Italy and so on. Yeah.
39:53
Yeah. So the fighting in the two villages,
39:55
basically, completely, I mean, for three entire days,
39:58
12th SS hit the Yuggena held up. Yeah,
40:00
they're supposed to be the Murs by then.
40:02
They're supposed to be in the Murs. Yeah,
40:05
they've not gone 10 10 10 10 miles,
40:07
30 miles, 30 miles, 30 miles, 30 miles,
40:09
30 miles, 30 miles, and they've, 30 miles,
40:11
30 miles, and they've, 30 miles, 30 miles,
40:14
30 miles, and they've, 30 miles, 30 miles,
40:16
and they've, 30 miles, 30 miles, and they've,
40:18
30 miles, 30 miles, and they've, 30 miles,
40:20
30 miles, and they've, 30 miles, 30 miles,
40:23
30 miles, 30 miles, and they've, 30 at
40:25
the breakthrough so they've they've well what what
40:27
price now does is he now redirects the
40:29
12th SS just a little bit further south
40:32
to Bullion and domain Bertcom back which will
40:34
be looking at in later episodes but the
40:36
12 SSs just can't get through. And of
40:38
course the defence of these twin villages allows
40:41
5th Corps, part of the US First Army,
40:43
to build up defences on the all-important Elsonbourne
40:45
Ridge. And by dawn of the 90 December,
40:47
the shortest route to the MERS is completely
40:50
blocked. And so far the Germans have lost
40:52
around 60 tanks and AFEs, you know, armoured
40:54
fighting vehicles at this point, which is a
40:57
big bite, you know, when it has only
40:59
got, you know, double that, if, if, if.
41:01
If, right, so that was the battle for
41:03
the Twin Villages in this second part of
41:06
this episode. In our next episode, we'll be
41:08
looking at the most notorious infamous of all
41:10
the pans of battle groups, Camp Gripper, Piper,
41:12
whose exploits I think are also a kind
41:15
of the other thing about the Battle of
41:17
Ozic people know about and also offer a
41:19
clue to some of the American motivation when
41:21
the moment comes, doesn't it? It's the truth.
41:24
You know, we often we scratch our heads
41:26
and wonder why American lads from, you know,
41:28
you know, Louisiana... fighting here here Piper's
41:30
men's behavior offers us a offers
41:33
us a very strong
41:35
motivation as we'll very much for
41:37
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