2:00

I don't know Yeah,

2:05

huge producer are we rolling is it a rolling start yeah,

2:07

but we can start when they're like we cut that out

2:10

What are these do I have one of these yeah, that's

2:12

for you. Do you want a cold one? Nice

2:16

my how the definition of cold one has

2:18

changed Okay,

2:23

it's not we grass it's matcha. It's called magic mind.

2:25

Oh like don't tell me. Oh, this is the stuff

2:28

I'm always What's

2:31

the word what's the what's the Yiddish word

2:33

I look to Katie schlep not schleppin Hocking

2:37

hocking isn't Yiddish, but it's the word I was

2:39

thinking of I'm always hawking my wares There

2:42

you go. What's this gonna do help you

2:45

focus? Make you feel good Make

2:48

you feel real good Remember that

2:50

bronzer bit is there any more terrifying question

2:52

than do you party party to

2:54

party you shoot moose? I Was

2:58

just talking to him the other day about like oh You

3:01

got to get silly bronzer, but his bit about

3:03

a savory Willy Wonka. I Don't

3:06

know it. It just is just like what if

3:08

Willy Wonka instead of sweets. It was all savory

3:10

flavors It was the dumbest best thing I've heard

3:14

I've said it welcome. How do you do let's take

3:16

a trip down my River of stew? Oh

3:20

Man that is a

3:23

plus bronger stuff right there just being a

3:25

weirdo That

3:29

is fantastic, yeah, he's the best you know it's

3:31

funny that you mentioned cold one I'm so happy

3:33

to see you the new special Dirt

3:36

nap. Yes is available and will

3:38

be available. No, it's out. It's out. It's

3:40

out. Oh, you could I'm sorry I said

3:42

send me the link I thought I'm not

3:44

gonna make you watch the YouTube video that

3:46

makes it makes my already bloated

3:49

special 45 minutes

3:52

longer with ads Oh does it yeah, I

3:54

mean it might be a magic mind so

3:56

you'd be excited You see

3:58

yourself tell him remind you to do I

56:00

was like that fucking sucked cuz you know why

56:02

yeah, I wasn't on drugs mom called something cool

56:06

It's not it's not what it that exact

56:09

Your mom was like I made goggles that

56:11

make you trip balls. All right, mom. I

56:14

do think that's pretty cool Kyle That

56:17

means it's not cool Yeah,

56:22

I don't I've been I haven't drank

56:24

in like two and a half months Okay,

56:26

and that's just it's the

56:29

new like that's the new experiment Yeah,

56:32

you know everybody else ran to DMT.

56:34

I'm like what if I don't do anything.

56:36

This is gonna be wild Because

56:39

could be a hell of a hell of a two

56:41

and a half months. Yeah, it just kind of happened

56:44

just fell away Yeah, I was sick

56:46

for a week. And then that was the break

56:48

and then It's one

56:50

of those. I got five days. When's the

56:52

last time you haven't had a drink in five days?

56:54

Just all right Let's get another day another day Wow

56:57

And it's I'm pissed because everything got

57:00

better man. I just

57:02

like being drunk. I Really

57:04

like it. Like I'm not alcoholic. I

57:07

don't need it. I just fucking

57:10

love Having

57:12

a few beers when it's I

57:15

love it. Yeah, it's rules There's

57:18

a Colin Hay song about being sober and

57:20

it's and it's like a love song to

57:22

like why can't I drink? It's like the

57:24

most honest. Yeah Song it

57:26

made me just made me think of it. That's

57:29

interesting me I feel like more people are quitting

57:31

drinking for the same reason all Information

57:34

is like there's more youtubes about just

57:37

like why you shouldn't which

57:39

the marketing was very one-sided It was

57:41

all it's Miller time. It's high life

57:43

and the people older than you Well,

57:45

I don't know but it was like that was

57:47

also a component of every social of course So

57:50

that I also quit drinking

57:53

I don't know if you're saying that but like I'm saying I

57:55

quit drinking and a lot of it was

57:57

flipping it I'm just putting this to you from

58:01

I'm quitting drinking too, I've been had.

58:03

That was very helpful to me. Like I've been had

58:06

by, talk about the real

58:08

estate developer that's just parking his money.

58:10

I'm like, the Anheuser-Busch doesn't give a

58:12

fuck about you. That's how I got

58:14

out of cigarettes. Yeah, they're just playing

58:16

you. I'm like, I paid

58:18

a lot of money for this cough. Yeah.

58:20

I spent a lot of money to smell

58:22

bad and have my fingers be yellow. Yeah.

58:25

And have a cough, interrupt every comedy show

58:27

and cough. Yeah, I remember the cough. Yeah.

58:30

Yeah, yeah. And again, being known for things that you

58:32

don't want to be known for. Is Kanae in here?

58:35

Oh yeah, yeah, he's over there. That's

58:38

it. What about Pablo's laugh? Huh? Huh?

58:41

Do you remember that guy? Pablo was, which

58:43

guy was Pablo? Pablo, he went into the

58:46

army. Pablo was a guy

58:48

in the audience at the Lion's Den,

58:50

who it sounds like I'm making fun of him. Couldn't be

58:53

further from the truth. He laughed like this. Huh?

58:56

Huh? Huh? Huh? And

58:58

you'd think that would be the worst thing in the world, and

59:01

maybe it is, but in a room that

59:03

seats about 25 people, if he's

59:05

one of them, you'll murder. I never understood

59:07

the pointing somebody out for having a weird

59:09

laugh. This is the one place where you

59:11

should be free. To have your joint. To do

59:13

that. It's like being at the nude beach

59:15

and like, look at that guy's little dick.

59:17

He's like, this was where it was supposed

59:19

to be okay. You

59:22

know like this? We had an agreement. Yeah,

59:24

what? I was just in the cold ocean.

59:27

Ruining the one thing that I thought was

59:29

okay. This was fine. You're absolutely right. And

59:31

Jazz, Jazz Punts out here and out. When

59:33

she would laugh, there's certain laugh, and there

59:35

was a woman named, there still is a

59:37

woman named Guru. She used

59:39

to go to the Tiger

59:42

Lily, and if she was there, he'd have a great

59:44

set. These were people that are like, these people have

59:46

to be at the album taping. And it kind of

59:48

spurns the other people. It does, yeah. Do you remember

59:50

Pablo though? I'm trying to, I'm- Not really. Again, how

59:53

drunk was I every Monday at the Lion's Den? Yeah.

59:56

What you're feeling better? Sleep better?

1:00:00

Sleep, being able to get shit

1:00:02

done. We got a commotion. A

1:00:05

little commotion. Marauders. You still have

1:00:07

marauders on the street? Well, well. Gotta

1:00:10

lock ourselves in. Yeah, we've been marauded. That's

1:00:12

the new, that's Civil War Part Two. Podcasters

1:00:15

defending the studio from Maraud.

1:00:19

Are you telling the truth or are you telling the truth?

1:00:21

What are you doing? We're taking

1:00:23

over the studio. It's not, it's podcasts, it's

1:00:25

not live. I don't care, hit record.

1:00:30

American people need to hear this. It's

1:00:33

a good Alex Jones kind of. It sounds a little bit

1:00:35

like Alex Jones. Yeah, that's shit. Well,

1:00:37

I just, it just, again,

1:00:39

I think, yes,

1:00:41

we're in Portland, I'm still going to

1:00:44

do shows and there's, first

1:00:46

off realizing, like, wait a minute, I forget that

1:00:49

I look like this. I

1:00:52

forget that I look my age and if

1:00:54

I'm in a bar, I'd be like, who

1:00:56

wants shots? Like, bro. You've

1:01:00

had enough. You

1:01:03

mean in your life. Yeah, like, why

1:01:05

are you here tonight? Yeah. Because

1:01:08

I'm like, man, no kids living this life. And

1:01:11

everybody in the bar is quite

1:01:13

literally half my age if they're

1:01:15

even there, because there's this whole

1:01:17

swath of people in their 20s

1:01:19

that have already hit it hard in

1:01:22

their teens or know the effects of drug

1:01:24

and alcohol because their parents are

1:01:26

closer to my age and they've seen what happens.

1:01:30

And it's like, oh, I don't want to be

1:01:32

a youth freak and be all about what, but it's, I

1:01:36

think it's very important to pay attention to

1:01:38

what somebody that's in their mid 20s,

1:01:41

I never know what the delineation points

1:01:43

are between the generational names. Finish your

1:01:45

thought though. But like, if whatever

1:01:47

Gen Z is dealing with in life, pay

1:01:50

attention to that. Yeah. That's

1:01:52

important. I want to be

1:01:54

relatable. I still want to do the comedy I want to

1:01:57

do, but I still want it to be relatable. I

1:01:59

saw Tom. on Papa last night at the store. Like

1:02:01

he's one of my favorites. Cause he's going to

1:02:03

talk about anything he wants to talk about, but

1:02:05

he still makes it so easy to listen to.

1:02:07

Yeah. From any, I think from

1:02:09

any angle to go like, you know,

1:02:11

well, because I'm this age, this is how things are. He's like

1:02:14

just matter of fact about his life. And

1:02:16

it's so easy to listen to, I

1:02:18

think from any generation. Like, I don't want to be that,

1:02:20

which means listening to the shit

1:02:23

that's going on with somebody that's 25 by

1:02:25

watching their standup or consuming the art that

1:02:27

they're putting out. And they're not drinking and

1:02:29

they're not in a bar, just getting wasted.

1:02:32

Like, and it makes me look back like,

1:02:34

yeah, but we were all drinking back in

1:02:36

the day. Like, no, I

1:02:38

was drinking. That's what I thought everybody

1:02:40

else was doing. Because you

1:02:42

don't notice the people that quietly slip out after

1:02:44

they're set that like

1:02:47

went home and went to work on time

1:02:49

and did fine the next day. You

1:02:51

just only remember the five other people that

1:02:53

stayed in the bar until it closed on

1:02:56

Monday. We were all

1:02:58

drinking. Right, right. And

1:03:00

I went to one of the shows here,

1:03:02

it was like a Chicago show a few months ago.

1:03:04

I was like, really? And everybody quit or

1:03:07

needs to stop? It

1:03:10

was. Look,

1:03:12

everybody had quit or needs to stop. His

1:03:15

jacket's getting pretty tattered in

1:03:17

the elbows, guys. Wow. Yeah.

1:03:21

I think it is the information age. It's one of

1:03:23

the under reported good things about

1:03:25

the internet. It's really easy to talk about how shitty

1:03:27

it is, which it is. Like I said, being had

1:03:29

though, being like, yeah, these are just like, oh, if

1:03:31

I hate corporations, but now here I am just at

1:03:33

the teat of this one. You're

1:03:36

a wonderful joke. People who hate big government

1:03:38

and socialism, unironically enjoying a

1:03:41

state park. Yeah, national park. A national

1:03:43

park. Such a brilliant joke, but it's

1:03:45

also, I laugh because I'm like,

1:03:48

in what ways am I full of shit?

1:03:52

That's the only comedy I like. You could say what you, I

1:03:54

needed to come back on the comedian to tell me, tell

1:03:56

me why you're an unreliable narrator. That's the most

1:03:59

important thing I know. if

1:08:00

you want me to have this for marketing things.

1:08:02

So I have a Facebook that I can't access.

1:08:05

I had Twitter that I told them

1:08:07

to change the password. I'm like, this

1:08:09

is just making me shitty. So

1:08:12

I don't have access to that. I

1:08:15

don't participate in Reddit. I just read it.

1:08:19

It can serve as, News.

1:08:21

Like really, or just information.

1:08:25

What does somebody, I actually think about this product now.

1:08:27

Do I think that you work for the company or

1:08:29

is this a real review? But

1:08:32

I can't, I mean, it's been, I've seen like,

1:08:34

you know, I've gotten good information out of that.

1:08:36

And Instagram is just, I've curated it to where

1:08:38

I really don't follow any comedians. I don't want

1:08:40

to see politics on it. I don't want to

1:08:42

see, I want to see cats. I

1:08:45

want to see bicycles. And then

1:08:47

just a lot of

1:08:49

accounts where guys build really intricate

1:08:51

Hot Wheels tracks and race

1:08:53

those. And I'm like, I

1:08:55

can make this exactly what I want it

1:08:57

to be. So if I'm wasting time, I'm

1:09:00

wasting time by what I've chosen, not what you're

1:09:02

telling me I need to waste time with. But

1:09:04

it still does, it still trash. It still trash.

1:09:07

It's still trash. It's still trash. Like people you

1:09:09

don't follow. Yeah, what did you do? What did

1:09:11

you do when you were 24? What did

1:09:13

you do with the time where that wasn't with you?

1:09:16

Like, did you just sit and look at a thing? We

1:09:18

didn't just sit and stare. This is what

1:09:20

I mean. It's like, I don't even remember how I used to

1:09:23

not eat meat. Like, I don't remember what we were doing. I

1:09:25

napped a lot. I napped a lot with a disc man. I

1:09:28

think there were disc man's. Disc men? Or

1:09:31

a Walkman or even just the early iPods. Magazines.

1:09:34

A magazine is just a print out

1:09:36

of Instagram. You just

1:09:38

kind of, you're tapping it, doesn't do anything. I never,

1:09:41

again, it was. It was specific

1:09:43

like, this is a BMX magazine. I'll read that.

1:09:46

There was nothing more rewarding than being at a

1:09:48

checkout stand in a grocery store and not recognizing

1:09:50

anybody on an Us Weekly. Like, I'm doing it

1:09:52

right. I'm crushing it if I don't know who

1:09:54

any of these people are. Now it's I'm just

1:09:57

old. But if I was 30, I'd be like,

1:09:59

thank God. I don't know who this is. I

1:10:01

don't know, man. I agree that you're more likely to

1:10:03

go that way when you're old, but there's a lot

1:10:05

of old people who

1:10:08

are really into that. Like if I were

1:10:10

to say that the average US Weekly Reader, maybe

1:10:13

it is a young woman in her 20s, but

1:10:15

I think there's a lot of housewives in their 50s that

1:10:18

are like ripping into. Real ones.

1:10:20

Real housewives. Real ones. Yeah. Ha

1:10:22

ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ripping into the

1:10:25

real ones. There's

1:10:27

more stuff than ever to consume.

1:10:30

And that's how every generation's felt. When you have

1:10:33

to recognize that every generation felt the way you

1:10:35

felt when you got to your age. So it's

1:10:37

not some new, the sky

1:10:39

is falling, has never felt more real than

1:10:41

it has right now. But it's also, did

1:10:43

you spend your whole day reading about how

1:10:45

the sky is falling? Because then it is.

1:10:47

If you just got up and went and

1:10:49

walked around, would you feel the same

1:10:51

way? It's Bill Hicks. Yeah. You open

1:10:54

the window and it's just, I can't do the cricket sound, but he

1:10:56

does the cricket sound. Because he's like, the news, everything,

1:10:58

rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, and you look in the window and he

1:11:00

does the cricket sound. I need to revisit

1:11:02

Bill Hicks, because I saw him when I was 12,

1:11:04

I'm like, this guy's just mad. I

1:11:07

didn't like him when I was young either. No, and

1:11:09

I didn't get, I haven't gotten to the point where

1:11:11

I want to experience. Even though I agree with most

1:11:13

of what he says, he's still not my go-to cup

1:11:15

of tea. I don't think it age well. Yeah. Oh

1:11:17

really? Well, I'm like, I just remember his

1:11:20

whole thing was like, we need to learn how to love

1:11:22

each other. And then it's also like, we need to shoot

1:11:24

Billy Ray Cyrus. I'm like, well, you can only see the

1:11:26

world now. That's

1:11:28

true. I think

1:11:31

about how I want my own

1:11:33

mind to settle down. Like how

1:11:35

I would, like if you were to

1:11:37

ask me, would you like more thoughts or fewer thoughts?

1:11:40

And you can will to have more thoughts.

1:11:42

I'm talking about involuntary thoughts. I

1:11:45

would like less involuntary thoughts. Like I'd like

1:11:47

it to be quiet when it's quiet. And

1:11:49

I look at things like Reddit, Facebook, Instagram,

1:11:51

as just other people's thoughts. It sort of

1:11:53

changes it. Why are you

1:11:55

letting all these non-experts, fuck

1:11:57

even experts, why are you letting all of this? thinking

1:12:01

in. Because do

1:12:03

we think we're enriching ourselves? I

1:12:05

think that's. Oh, I'm gathering, you're gathering

1:12:07

opinions. You're not gathering information. That's the

1:12:09

lie, yeah. But you're all, you're like,

1:12:11

you've meditated yourself into

1:12:14

space, right? Yeah, sure. So

1:12:17

why, so why are you still, don't you have it?

1:12:19

Can you click into like? Yeah, no, I can. That's

1:12:21

why I took Facebook off my phone. You know, then

1:12:23

you realize, look, I'm not saying I have it figured

1:12:25

out. Did you do all the drugs? I

1:12:29

did a fair amount of psychedelics, yeah. Yeah, do

1:12:31

you still do them? I will

1:12:33

occasionally do a psychedelic, yeah, but not. Which

1:12:35

ones are you doing? If

1:12:37

this is well-worn territory, right? It doesn't come up as much

1:12:39

as it used to, wouldn't you say, Katie? It doesn't come

1:12:41

up as much as it used to. I

1:12:44

had a Academy experience recently that

1:12:46

was very, very profound. Yeah,

1:12:48

I did too. It's from a guy named Travis

1:12:50

in a green room. He's

1:12:54

like, you know, people do this for

1:12:56

therapeutic reasons. I'm like, not in the

1:12:58

green room with a Sacramento punch line

1:13:01

in Travis. But thanks,

1:13:03

this is pretty wild. This dude named Travis,

1:13:05

you did it after the show, I hope.

1:13:07

Yeah, yeah, I won't do things

1:13:09

before a show. You wouldn't be able to do

1:13:11

stand-up after Academy. I don't think. No, no, no.

1:13:13

Or it would just be a lot of like,

1:13:15

I love you. Yeah, I mean, I just didn't,

1:13:17

however much Travis gave me. So

1:13:20

I don't know, I don't know if it was, if

1:13:23

they're a medical dose, or

1:13:25

whatever much he had to spare. It's funny

1:13:27

how much you realize they're all the same,

1:13:29

because what I would say, meaning the conclusions

1:13:32

that they bring you to, whatever the substance

1:13:34

is, you realize that it's

1:13:36

stripping away. It's not actually introducing

1:13:38

something new, as much as

1:13:40

it's stripping away the impediments to what

1:13:42

has always and will ever be with

1:13:45

you. So there is this state

1:13:47

that you are, and I've just

1:13:50

put a lot of peep, identity,

1:13:52

ego, and a lot

1:13:54

of games that I'm playing. They're

1:13:56

not on nefarious games, but right now we're playing

1:13:58

a subtle game of like. You'll

1:14:00

listen to me, I'll listen to you, that's fine.

1:14:02

It's not a bad game. I thought that was

1:14:04

called a conversation. It is called a conversation. But

1:14:06

there is a dance to it, right? Oh yeah,

1:14:09

yeah. I'm just saying, but behind it, there's something

1:14:11

that's totally fine. And psychedelics, that doesn't really care

1:14:13

how anything goes. Whether I

1:14:15

live or die, it's just sort of like good.

1:14:18

And I find that psychedelics, whichever

1:14:20

one it is, removes all

1:14:22

the sediment from the

1:14:24

lake. I'll ask my

1:14:27

friends with kids this, how do you find

1:14:29

optimism for the future? Because you kind of

1:14:31

have to have it, I think, if you're

1:14:33

a parent. To have a kid? Yeah. Because

1:14:36

I don't have to worry about the future.

1:14:39

As much, because you're leaving. Yeah,

1:14:41

because it'll just be done. That's

1:14:44

why all these people like, so what you're

1:14:46

saying is you don't care about my kids. Yeah.

1:14:56

Again, it's the vegan thing. Oh, I got sad

1:14:58

because I saw one chicken that wasn't happy. Now

1:15:00

I don't eat any of them. I got her,

1:15:02

but you can't get care about everybody's kid. Time

1:15:09

out an old joke, never joke about how

1:15:11

I love vegans that use iPhones to look

1:15:13

up cruelty-free businesses. That's really funny. That's great.

1:15:16

I just want to make sure nothing was harmed in the making

1:15:18

of this meal. I keep trying to wipe the fingerprints off this

1:15:20

thing, but it's like they're on the inside of the glass. Oh,

1:15:23

that is a brilliant. Yeah, I'm good

1:15:25

at comedy, Pete. That's a brilliant. Can

1:15:27

I put my hat back on? I'm very self-conscious. You can, it's

1:15:29

behind the couch. Wait,

1:15:32

do you think I'm the arbiter of whether or not

1:15:34

you can get it? No, I need to face who

1:15:36

I am. I think you

1:15:38

look handsome. I'm having a brave moment. Do you remember that painting

1:15:40

I made of you? It looked more

1:15:43

like this. I made you a painting, and you said

1:15:45

I gave you too much hair. It's because I made

1:15:47

your hair kind of wild. Where's this painting? You didn't

1:15:49

give me this painting. I gave you a painting. You

1:15:51

never gave me a painting. I definitely gave you a

1:15:54

painting. Gave you a painting. I

1:15:56

don't, I have, I take all

1:15:58

those things very preciously. Really? Then

1:16:01

I texted you a picture of the painting? I can't believe

1:16:03

I would have kept this painting. Okay,

1:16:05

the text might be. I don't

1:16:07

think. I haven't held on to texts as well.

1:16:09

I've changed some phones since then. Ah,

1:16:12

it doesn't matter, we'll do it later. It's good. I

1:16:15

painted you. I definitely remember painting you

1:16:18

and then you saying I gave you too much hair,

1:16:20

but you look like that painting now. All right. There

1:16:22

it is. I've grown into it. Where

1:16:25

were we? Oh, optimism. I don't, we

1:16:27

were kids. I don't care about, yeah.

1:16:29

This almost has more to do with

1:16:35

a certain trust that

1:16:37

might even be biochemical that I just sort of

1:16:39

have. Meaning I can't take

1:16:41

credit for it. I inherited from

1:16:44

my father a certain it'll

1:16:46

be okay-ness Yeah. that

1:16:48

I have even as a dad. I'll let my

1:16:50

daughter climb a tree while other

1:16:52

people are just like don't do that. And I'm just

1:16:54

like, it'll be okay. So I

1:16:56

have that big picture wise. You

1:17:00

could also break that down and just be like, when

1:17:02

it comes to AI for example, or whatever the next

1:17:04

evolution is, you're talking about

1:17:06

the things that seem new that aren't new. And

1:17:08

one of them is going like, this is the

1:17:10

end. We're at the end, this is over. And

1:17:13

I'm like, yep, that's, we're right on

1:17:15

course. We're right, the fourth turning. Yeah.

1:17:17

And something is gonna come. I'm not

1:17:19

saying we should be lazy. No, it

1:17:21

does feel close. To

1:17:24

the end, but it always does. We

1:17:26

also can't, this is interesting. I'll put this to

1:17:28

your brilliant mind. We can't

1:17:30

separate that feeling of doom

1:17:32

that we have is

1:17:36

married to our own, like

1:17:38

the planet is us.

1:17:41

And the way we feel about our bodies and

1:17:43

we're like, I'm getting old, I'm decaying, I'm gonna

1:17:45

die. It's all over. Yeah. Don't you

1:17:47

see? Watch it all happen. You are kind of

1:17:49

a baby in a crib screaming. Like don't you

1:17:51

see, I'm dying. Yeah. And that kind

1:17:53

of gets writ large in the world. And

1:17:55

meanwhile, I'll give you despair. This is a

1:17:58

Romnesslin. I'll give you despair. Yeah.

1:20:00

And you could see the hostess who took

1:20:02

whatever their title is now. No,

1:20:04

it's great. It gives me more time to interact

1:20:06

with the customers and not worry about running food.

1:20:08

That's the line. That's the line,

1:20:10

yeah. But the way we were sitting, there

1:20:13

was like the hallway where all the little

1:20:15

food robots were lined up,

1:20:17

blinking. But then there was

1:20:19

the hallway and there was the door into the kitchen.

1:20:22

And I was watching a guy try to open

1:20:25

a tin can with a fork in

1:20:27

the kitchen. Oh my God. And I'm like,

1:20:29

maybe we need the robots. Like,

1:20:32

what begat what in this scenario?

1:20:35

Like, are we getting dumber and the robots

1:20:37

are getting stronger? Like, are they replacing our

1:20:40

jobs or are you allowing it to happen?

1:20:42

Because this guy, whose cousin

1:20:44

is this? Because he's not helping. He's

1:20:47

not helping over here. Yeah,

1:20:49

this was the favor hire in the

1:20:52

kitchen and the robots blinking to just

1:20:54

help you. Oh,

1:20:56

please let me do that for you. I

1:20:59

think what we're going to uncover too is just how many

1:21:02

jobs. It'll be weird again. I

1:21:04

think it'll be weird to my daughter that most

1:21:06

people did things they didn't want

1:21:08

to do. I think it's one of the

1:21:11

changes will be so many

1:21:13

jobs that weren't pleasant jobs

1:21:15

will be done by robots. What we

1:21:17

do with that, I don't know. It's

1:21:19

kind of like your question, what were

1:21:21

we doing before we had phones? There's

1:21:24

also a great joke. I forget who has it,

1:21:26

but they're like, actually, I don't

1:21:28

think it's a joke. I think it's something I read in

1:21:31

a spiritual book, but it was like, if you see like,

1:21:33

it used to take four hours to make

1:21:35

dinner. Now we cook it

1:21:37

in four minutes on the microwave.

1:21:40

What are you doing with that extra three hours

1:21:42

and 56 minutes? You know what I mean? Like,

1:21:44

we don't know. Yeah. So

1:21:46

the answer actually ends up being, I

1:21:49

would say we're looking for a quality of

1:21:51

our experience. We're looking for a deepening and

1:21:54

a widening and expansiveness of our consciousness more

1:21:56

than we're looking for something to do on

1:21:58

the toilet. I think. What's

1:54:00

the only, it's a Ramana Maharshi

1:54:03

meditation. What cannot be taken

1:54:05

away from me? Yeah.

1:54:08

It's the knowing that knows all the things

1:54:10

that change. Yeah. And

1:54:12

why can't we know that and be like, dude,

1:54:14

stop doing your fucking stuff. Yeah, so that's

1:54:17

why somebody- I don't think you can exclude

1:54:19

them. So that's why we can allow prank

1:54:21

videos in restaurants. No, that's why we

1:54:23

can allow Kyle going, get in your

1:54:25

fucking lane, this is a factory. Ram

1:54:27

Dass's guru used to scream at people and

1:54:30

yell at people that you're engaged, you're being you. That's

1:54:32

why I'm like, I'm not trying to extinguish the light

1:54:34

of Kyle. Yeah. But

1:54:36

if you can be Kyle and you already are

1:54:38

this way, I think you have

1:54:41

a lot of this going on. It's

1:54:44

the part of you that knows to

1:54:46

get out of show business and go in the

1:54:48

woods. You wouldn't be so

1:54:50

comfortable alone. You wouldn't be so comfortable

1:54:52

breaking away if you didn't have some

1:54:55

connection to this. It's

1:54:58

a day-to-day basis. Why do

1:55:00

I like a guy playing saxophone in the subway?

1:55:02

But don't you dare try to do a weird

1:55:04

dance in front of me in the car. It

1:55:10

changes from day to day. That's what's frustrating,

1:55:12

is there's some days I love the whimsy

1:55:14

and randomness of the world. There's

1:55:17

beauty and everything. And

1:55:19

then the next day is like, fuck you,

1:55:21

fuck everything. I need you

1:55:24

to hear me. I couldn't relate more.

1:55:27

Ask Val. If you

1:55:29

do visit us in Ojai, just ask Val. I

1:55:31

can tell how open my heart is based on

1:55:33

how I hear music. And if my

1:55:35

heart is open, any music will

1:55:38

bring me to my knees almost. And

1:55:40

if my heart is closed, which it often is. He

1:55:43

said, don't be an asshole. Somebody came over our house last

1:55:45

night and I was like, why am I being an asshole?

1:55:47

I just saw it. And I was

1:55:50

like, because you're depressed. I've been depressed for

1:55:52

the past couple of weeks. And I'm just

1:55:54

going like, fuck, hurt people, hurt people. I'm

1:55:56

out there poking because I'm in pain. What

1:55:59

registers as depressed? depressed if you

1:56:01

know it's gonna be like, oh, the last couple

1:56:03

weeks. Because I don't, again, and

1:56:05

I don't want to use Midwestern as a crutch. It's

1:56:07

like, no, that's kind of

1:56:09

the factory setting. I hear

1:56:11

that. I

1:56:13

expect the worst. I would call it a

1:56:16

debilitating numbness. That's what I call

1:56:18

depressed. And it means

1:56:20

I can tell I'm depressed by

1:56:22

my own standards when I'm not

1:56:24

exercising, I'm less interested in learning.

1:56:27

Controllable factors. Everything in my life

1:56:29

just kind of starts hitting pause and all I want to

1:56:31

do is, I don't know what I want to do. That's

1:56:33

the problem. I'll be at coffee with

1:56:36

a friend having a nice time, but I'm like, I don't want

1:56:38

this to end because I'm gonna go home and I know I'm

1:56:40

not gonna do anything for four hours. That's

1:56:42

what I mean by that. That's the definition

1:56:45

of absolute happiness to me. Which,

1:56:47

oh yeah, no, you're right, from a different

1:56:49

lens. Katie, do you have to go soon? No,

1:56:52

I was just kidding. Okay, I'm just making sure. Because

1:56:54

you have a thing at two. Oh yeah.

1:56:56

I didn't know if you were getting squirmy not

1:56:58

that you're getting squirmy. I just saw you, I

1:57:01

just want to make sure we're not pushing you too long.

1:57:05

Yeah, I have a room full of musical

1:57:07

instruments that I'm terrible at and that's what

1:57:09

I just sit there and make my noise.

1:57:11

I'm not gonna force it on somebody. I

1:57:14

think that's great though. I'm

1:57:17

not giving you my, I thrive

1:57:19

in solitude. Yeah. But

1:57:22

I think it's, especially playing music, music

1:57:26

helps, I

1:57:28

can't say what it does for you, but music, writing,

1:57:31

even swimming, running, walking, being

1:57:34

in nature, being in silence.

1:57:38

When there aren't all these things, like right now

1:57:40

I'm asking you to bring Kyle forth. You

1:57:43

know what I mean? To summon Kyle. Bring Kyle

1:57:45

to me. The podcast

1:57:47

guest is Kyle, so bring him to me.

1:57:50

And the podcast host is Pete, so I'm bringing

1:57:52

him out. Do I sound depressed right now? Yeah.

1:57:55

No, it's because I've dragged fucking Pete out and

1:57:57

here we are. You turn it on. Turn it on. Sometimes

2:02:00

I just had my physical and like, when

2:02:02

she's interviewing me, I'm like, who am I?

2:02:04

Like, who am I pretending to be? I

2:02:06

catch myself and I correct myself, but I'll

2:02:08

be like, that's a story. I

2:02:10

don't do cardio five times a week. What

2:02:13

are we talking about? Well, you know what?

2:02:15

Just be honest, it's only good. And then

2:02:17

I was honest and I got fucking judged.

2:02:20

By your doctor? But in like, not

2:02:22

the, my appendix was, it didn't burst,

2:02:24

but it was, in fact,

2:02:27

it was a weird day. Like I had, like, you know,

2:02:29

I'd done jokes about it, but I had a pain. I'm

2:02:31

like, this isn't Kylite dumb shit

2:02:33

again pain. This is something's wrong. And

2:02:36

I went to the doctor and they're like, okay, well just

2:02:38

we'll do some blood work. And I got to call it

2:02:40

like 930 at night from the doctor going, your

2:02:43

appendix is, it's not bursting, but

2:02:45

it's about to go to the

2:02:47

ER. Oh

2:02:49

wow. Or go to the hospital. Did your appendix

2:02:51

call the doctor? How did he? Look,

2:02:54

you gotta tell him. You missed Agnes. But

2:02:56

I forgot, because I went in that day. I'm

2:02:58

like, this feels weird. Is this the appendix? She's

2:03:00

like, what do you do? Drugs or whatever. I'm

2:03:02

like, I'll just be honest. I'm like, I've recreationally

2:03:05

taken mushrooms and it hadn't been

2:03:07

recently or anything. Why

2:03:10

do you do that? Why do you think you need

2:03:12

to do that? We're

2:03:14

here because of the appendix pain. You're

2:03:16

not gonna do, like, so you want

2:03:19

me to be honest and now I'm

2:03:21

doing something that's almost legal. And it's

2:03:23

like, and you got judgy

2:03:25

about it. I'm like, this is why people

2:03:28

don't say shit. This is why AI

2:03:30

is gonna take over the doctor. Because

2:03:33

we're gonna be sliding a thing, being like,

2:03:35

how much sass do you want? Zero.

2:03:38

Yeah, zero sass. Who's

2:03:40

turning that one up? That's what gets me in shape. Is

2:03:43

to be shamed. Salus Ivan is very neutral.

2:03:46

Yeah, this must be other issues. But also

2:03:48

doctors, it's, I mean, it's said the other

2:03:50

day, but it's also like TSA, we're like,

2:03:52

oh, you're one institution. Why is there different

2:03:55

rules in each place? Why are

2:03:57

five doctors gonna tell me five different things about how

2:03:59

to take care? I don't care myself. Well,

2:04:02

that's not building a sense of trustworthiness

2:04:04

in this field. If

2:04:07

you all have different opinions. Why? My

2:04:09

last talk, not my current doctor, but was like

2:04:11

still writing things down and putting them in folders.

2:04:14

Like pen written folders. I

2:04:16

don't mind that. I kinda like that.

2:04:20

You're not gonna like it when he retires

2:04:22

and no one can find the folder. Well,

2:04:24

why am I gonna die? Well, because the

2:04:26

transformer exploded. Oh, there

2:04:28

you go. Because the new guy clicked

2:04:31

on the wrong link. And

2:04:33

now our system blew up. In the new Blade

2:04:35

Runner, they talk about a blackout and they go,

2:04:37

it's ironic that only paper survived. You're gonna love

2:04:39

the new Blade Runner. It's

2:04:41

not like the old Blade Runner. You'll get through

2:04:44

it. You're gonna love it. Okay. I

2:04:46

don't have to see the first one? No. Zero.

2:04:48

Do you watch Dune? Do I have to watch

2:04:50

Dune? No. Okay. You don't have

2:04:53

to watch Dune. I just, I feel

2:04:55

bad. Sorry everybody. Science fiction does...

2:04:58

Nothing for you? It's like gay porn.

2:05:00

I'm glad it's there for the people

2:05:03

that enjoy it. It doesn't move

2:05:06

my heart rate a single bit. It's

2:05:09

just nothing there for me. Can I just say,

2:05:12

having known you all these years, when you

2:05:14

started doing the bit about the robot that

2:05:16

delivers the food, I felt

2:05:18

like, you know, on The Simpsons that have a

2:05:20

future episode, you know, Bart's gotten

2:05:22

earring. I was with you

2:05:24

in the lion's den, watching the future

2:05:26

episode of Kyle. You're like, you're gonna

2:05:28

make it blink? And I'm like,

2:05:31

I was like really straddling two times. It

2:05:33

was crazy. It doesn't have dry eyes. It's

2:05:35

a touch pad. It

2:05:38

was so, and you look like you look.

2:05:40

All right, we'll put it in the act. I

2:05:43

just came here to work stuff. I think you have to put in, just

2:05:46

say who you want us to vote for. It doesn't

2:05:48

come on during Yellowstone. Okay. I don't

2:05:50

write down bits anymore, so I guess I just have

2:05:52

to rewatch this podcast. That's the way to go. You

2:05:55

can watch it on 2X. It's a good riff.

2:05:57

It's a good riff. I got a lot of bits out of Pete for me.

2:05:59

A lot of good riffs.