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You made it

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I was going to say everybody. It's

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It's been a minute. This is

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a great episode. We are obviously

0:25

in an interesting time in the

0:27

country. Val and I obviously being

0:29

here in California. Thanks to everybody

0:31

who's reached out about us, we

0:33

are doing fine. We live north

0:35

of the city. So we've actually

0:37

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0:42

ours, family. And it's been sort

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But it's been really

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and devastating, yes. To

0:52

just see so many lives affected

0:55

by these fires. Yes. And it

0:57

sounds, or I'm worried it'll sound

0:59

trite to be like our heart goes

1:01

out to them, but it truly

1:03

does. We're with you or thinking about

1:05

you and what we want to

1:08

do. Yeah, and I wanted to

1:10

share this. So if you are,

1:12

you know, like us feeling... sort

1:14

of helpless and wanting to just

1:16

wondering how you can help or

1:18

if you are in LA and

1:21

you need help there are a

1:23

lot of great resources that are

1:25

coming up on Instagram but one

1:27

of them is like a Google

1:29

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1:32

it's constantly being updated with

1:34

just different resources. So like

1:36

where you can send your

1:38

animals if you have to

1:40

like be in a hotel

1:43

or different shelters and places

1:45

that there are. The AirB&B

1:47

thing too, you can get like. Yeah,

1:49

if you are, if you ping in LA,

1:51

you can get free. Yeah, AirB&B

1:54

and be is offering free

1:56

places. So. This is called,

1:58

I don't know how to...

2:00

pronounce it, but it's M-A-L-A-N-M-A-N-M-L-A-N-M-L-A.

2:04

So if you go to

2:06

if you go to mutual aid

2:08

LA on Instagram, you can get

2:10

access to this Google Doc

2:13

sheet that has updated resources. And

2:15

yeah, and then I also know

2:17

Baby to Baby is doing a

2:20

lot of really great stuff like...

2:22

Getting diapers formula like all these

2:24

things you don't think about when

2:26

you know when you really are

2:29

processing that You don't have either

2:31

access to your home or everything

2:33

has been Yeah, is gone. So

2:36

Yeah, I just wanted to share

2:38

like some way that that we

2:40

could help because it's definitely

2:42

It's a it's a big thing that's

2:45

happening. It's weighing heavy. It's weighing heavy

2:47

for sure and as old Mr. Rogers

2:49

said looked at the helpers and it's

2:51

been so beautiful seeing the help and

2:54

Absolutely We even have friends that are

2:56

like going down and checking on houses

2:58

getting things for people and stuff. It's

3:00

been really beautiful. Yes, that's right and

3:03

as we've lost power and had people

3:05

coming by there's been like a sweet

3:07

kind of communal aspect to it as

3:09

well, but all that is to say

3:12

We're feeling it and that's a

3:14

great way to support. Yep,

3:16

that's right. That being said, this

3:18

is a pretty normal episode. Yeah,

3:20

well, we're not, it's not fire

3:22

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3:25

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3:27

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3:29

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3:31

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3:33

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3:35

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3:38

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3:44

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8:27

weird Valerie Get into it.

8:30

Hello and welcome to We

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only show that gives you

8:37

a bonus episode that you

8:39

weren't expecting, hoping for, or

8:42

needed. Me and my life

8:44

partner. Oh God. Could you

8:46

imagine? I don't mind that

8:48

term, but it's so not

8:50

what we call each other.

8:52

Valerie and I are life

8:54

partners. What if I said...

8:57

My partner in crime. Oh God.

8:59

That made my winter go inside.

9:01

You know those water snakes they

9:03

give you? You know what like

9:05

a water snake? It's hard to

9:07

hold it. Yes, I know water. Those

9:09

are winners, right? 100% and

9:11

they're flesh lights. Put

9:14

a water snake in a microwave

9:17

for I'm guessing like four seconds.

9:19

Oh, that thing can't withstand more

9:21

than four. The plastic will melt. Yeah.

9:23

Yeah. But you have a good

9:25

four and you're in business. It's like,

9:28

do you want to? The crime.

9:30

The crime is ruining water snakes.

9:32

Water snakes are the most sexual

9:34

thing. They're so sexual.

9:36

It's a flashlight, obviously. But

9:39

then also. It's too hot to

9:41

handle. To hold it. You have to

9:43

sort of like. I'm jerking off.

9:45

Yeah. We got dirty immediately.

9:48

It's not that dirty. Okay.

9:50

Jerking off? Jerking off of

9:53

all the ways you can say

9:55

it. Look at this jerk

9:57

off. Well, that's pretty bad.

9:59

Yeah. Wanking is nice. Feeding

10:01

the chickens, I've never cared

10:04

for. I have never heard

10:06

that. You've never heard that.

10:08

No, I've heard. You've never

10:10

been feeding the chickens and been

10:12

like, because you put grain in

10:14

your hand and you do a

10:17

little. Are you kidding me? Is

10:19

this a real? Look, the farming

10:21

community has been sleeper, hilarious, for

10:24

a very long time. And some

10:26

farmer was out there shucking the

10:28

corn. Also, that was, oh,

10:30

that was one of my questions

10:33

on Hollywood Squares. Spoiler.

10:35

Ooh. Was before toilet paper, what

10:37

did we use to wipe our

10:39

butts? And I said the answer

10:41

was corn, but it... Corn. Corn.

10:43

Corn. You see it coming out?

10:45

Use it to get it away. That's

10:47

where the myth that corn doesn't

10:50

digest comes from. It

10:52

was actually because you wiped

10:54

too aggressively with corn. Or as

10:56

we call it. Mays. Mays? Mays

10:58

is the life partner. You aren't

11:01

you talented? I've missed you.

11:03

I've missed you. I've missed you.

11:05

I was going to say, everyone

11:08

that listens to this podcast knows

11:10

I'm obsessed with when things

11:12

are over. And I think

11:14

when you're in your 20s,

11:16

that's your golden decade to

11:19

correct people on Frankenstein's monster.

11:21

Right. Yeah. Then I had another one.

11:23

Do you remember what the other

11:25

one was? Oh boy.

11:27

But then Mays, like to

11:30

know that the natives,

11:32

the Native Americans called Corn

11:34

Mays, is your first taste

11:36

of a factoid? You know

11:39

what I mean? Like a

11:41

weird flex that you're like,

11:43

or as they called it,

11:45

maze. It's like a, it's like

11:47

a good joke area. It's one of

11:49

those things that you learn and you

11:52

put it in your pocket for like

11:54

next time we have corn with my

11:56

friends at the pub. I'm going to

11:58

say something about maze. And they're going

12:01

to love it. It's always been

12:03

funny. Yeah. And I think because

12:05

growing up, every time someone told

12:07

me the natives called corn maize,

12:09

it was completely humorless. So it

12:11

became very dry, like a church

12:13

laugh, you know what I mean?

12:15

Right. And then the thing is

12:17

that there are corn maize. Amaze

12:19

maize. And that's got to be

12:21

a joke. It's like people made

12:23

that. I've certainly heard it. But

12:25

when, but what I'm doing is.

12:27

When people, again, going back to

12:29

funny farmers, when they made the

12:31

corn maze, did they know? Did

12:33

they call it that? Did they

12:36

make it that? Wait, wait, wait,

12:38

that's hilarious. Yeah. A farmer is

12:40

growing corn. Yes. And then someone

12:42

said, this is the scene in

12:44

the movie. He's looking at an

12:46

ear of his corn. Yeah. Admiring

12:48

it. It's been a good season.

12:50

Someone says, you know what the

12:52

natives called it. And he goes,

12:54

of course, maze. And then he

12:56

looks up. And the camera follows

12:58

his eye to the field of

13:00

corn. We've also at this point

13:02

in the movie established corn ain't

13:04

selling like it used to. The

13:06

community is trying to buy his

13:09

land for a shopping mall. J.T.

13:11

Foxtrot is trying to buy his

13:13

land. Foxtrot? A new Foxtrot mall?

13:15

Mr. Foxtrot? Isn't it true that

13:17

employment goes down in areas where

13:19

your malls pop up? So he

13:21

doesn't want that Foxtrot. No. So

13:23

he gets it in that moment.

13:25

I'm going to build the world's

13:27

best corn maze. Wow. And he

13:29

saves the community. We figured out

13:31

how to make field of dreams

13:33

without baseball. Do you remember? You've

13:35

done it. You've found your way

13:37

into my heart. The vacancy sign

13:39

on my heart? Just switch to

13:41

no. on the vacancy sign. So

13:44

yeah, it's weird that you turn

13:46

something on to say that there's

13:48

no more vacancy. That's right. Yeah,

13:50

you think you would turn it

13:52

off, but that's not how it

13:54

goes. No, the gift. is that

13:56

there is vacancy and you have

13:58

to effort when there's no vacancy.

14:00

Which got to feel good as

14:02

a hotel owner. Which there's like

14:04

some sort of metaphor there for

14:06

like you know like you let

14:08

your heart be like a hotel

14:10

where the given is vacancy. It

14:12

actually takes more effort to turn

14:14

people away. We've probably said this

14:17

a million on this podcast, but

14:19

even as a kid when they

14:21

were like, it takes more muscles

14:23

to frown than to smile. Yeah,

14:25

but it takes no muscles to

14:27

just don't have a face. Which

14:29

is why you have that picture

14:31

where you're doing total neutral. Have

14:33

we talked about that? I don't

14:35

know, but my brother who's with

14:37

us. Not in this room, but

14:39

at our house, yes. We call

14:41

that the lounge lizard photo. And

14:43

the lounge lizard photo was the

14:45

church portrait. So there was a

14:47

church directory, which I have to

14:50

think back growing up was probably

14:52

like a hot social. Oh, it

14:54

was the yearbook for the church.

14:56

We had one too. Yeah, yeah.

14:58

It's a big deal. You want

15:00

to look good? Yeah. Not too

15:02

good. Nobody's wearing a tuxedo, but

15:04

look good. God, if anyone were

15:06

a tuxedo to a church directory.

15:08

I'm going to do you one

15:10

better. Could anyone have any humor

15:12

at all? No. Nowadays, I am

15:14

positive. I'm going to say 40%

15:16

of the photos have some comedy

15:18

elements. Oh my God. Like a

15:20

funny tie, a funny face. Do

15:22

you think they're still doing it?

15:25

Yeah, an online directory, maybe? But

15:27

my father would wear his like,

15:29

I think he's wearing like a,

15:31

I have the photo in the

15:33

studio, in the podcast studio. I

15:35

know. And my dad's wearing like

15:37

a sweater and a sport coat.

15:39

Yeah. He looks like he's having

15:41

a great time. Yeah, he does.

15:43

He has, he's a very good

15:45

smile. Good photogenic, which is so

15:47

funny because now that he's over

15:49

80, he just stopped. He won't

15:51

do it. What do you mean?

15:53

Every photo of my dad is

15:55

mid him saying, just take a

15:58

photo of my dad. Like in

16:00

the middle of a, I'm not

16:02

gonna, oh, I gotta go. It's

16:04

like there's the picture. Every

16:06

picture I've seen of him

16:08

recently, his mouth is slightly

16:11

open. He's doing a sentence. He's

16:13

saying it's a real flex, it's

16:15

a real power move to be

16:18

like, oh, I look in your

16:20

fucking. There it is. But when

16:22

he tries, very handsome, very photogenicenic,

16:25

and he gave me a tip.

16:27

But feeling a lot of fun is

16:29

to my dad. What if the tip was

16:31

say cheese? Well, you know that Judd

16:33

Abbott. Who is it? Al Pacino?

16:35

No, it's DeNiro. Robert DeNiro?

16:38

Judd Appetow is taking a picture

16:40

with Robert DeNiro. Like, I don't

16:42

know if it was a red

16:45

carpet, but it was like a

16:47

lot of people were taking pictures.

16:49

And he's like, I hear like,

16:51

mmm, mmm, mmm. And he's,

16:53

this is Judd's bit, by

16:56

the way, full credit. I

16:58

love this. What is that?

17:00

And he leans into Robert

17:03

De Niro and realizes that

17:05

Robert De Niro is going,

17:07

cheese, cheese, the greatest actor,

17:10

one of the greatest of

17:12

all time, can't fake a

17:14

smile for a photograph without

17:16

the cheese trick. My father's

17:19

tip was to laugh. It's

17:21

unbelievable. It's a real treat.

17:23

My father's tip was not the

17:26

cheese tip. My father's tip was

17:28

not the cheese tip. My father's tip

17:30

was to laugh. And I know I've

17:32

said this before, but you know, for

17:35

all of the psychology and

17:37

unpacking that we've done with my

17:39

family, which I'm very grateful for. And

17:42

frankly, micro update here have been feeling...

17:44

cleaner and freer than I ever have

17:46

in my life. My therapy's been

17:48

going wonderful and with that comes like

17:51

an easing up. Like everything feels a

17:53

little bit less complicated and wonderful. So

17:55

then it can make it a little

17:58

bit more clear. The gift. that

18:00

you got from your parents, and

18:02

one of them is, and this

18:04

is not a fawn, and this

18:06

is not a, that could be

18:08

true. It's true. Remember, your brother

18:10

was like, your dad didn't really

18:13

teach, like, go get it, you

18:15

know, like go fuck it, your

18:17

dad, your, Valerie's dad. My dad

18:19

was doing that for himself. But

18:21

he didn't teach it. But yeah,

18:23

he, he like, it wasn't like

18:25

the wisdom that he was gonna

18:27

hand down to us, really. Which

18:30

is, you know, not to talk

18:32

to, if you're uncomfortable, take it

18:34

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18:36

plays a lot. Like, I remember

18:38

I've told you that's a million,

18:40

he plays the piano really well.

18:42

Yeah. I was like. I didn't

18:44

say this, but I'm like, Jesus

18:46

Christ, you're incredible at the piano.

18:49

And he was like, oh, I

18:51

just picked it up here and

18:53

there. And I was like, that's

18:55

so weird. Yeah. Because my dad

18:57

would be like, practice, focus, you

18:59

know what I mean? He wouldn't,

19:01

or if you played it, cool,

19:03

it would be so obvious that

19:06

he would be so obvious that

19:08

he's playing it cool. Yeah. There's

19:10

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19:12

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19:14

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19:16

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19:18

such a shift, was to be

19:20

like, it's not wicked or wrong

19:22

or sinister to accept applause. But

19:25

when I would lead worship. And

19:27

that would clap, this is appropriate,

19:29

I suppose, you just like point

19:31

to the sky. But even that

19:33

is just so performative. Oh, yeah.

19:35

Just makes my vagina so dry.

19:37

I know. I know. I know.

19:39

I love that you just roll

19:42

with that. Yeah. I remember even

19:44

when I was like fully in

19:46

the church thinking it was gross

19:48

when like people would think God

19:50

in like that. You know the

19:52

way, like when they would win

19:54

a Grammy. Oh my God. And

19:56

I think God. And that's why

19:58

I- Well, look. Sorry. I love

20:01

the snoop. Have you, have you,

20:03

I, we, something, listener, dear listener,

20:05

something that we've been enjoying is

20:07

seeing how different our algorithms are

20:09

with the memes that they give

20:11

us. Yeah. And one of the

20:13

memes that is going around my

20:15

algorithm is a clip from Snoop

20:18

Dog's acceptance speech for something, where

20:20

he goes, and most, most of

20:22

all, I'd like to thank me.

20:24

I'd like to thank me for

20:26

all the work I've done. I'd

20:28

like to thank me for, you

20:30

know, like giving it 100% or

20:32

whatever. And the meme is like

20:34

mom's after Christmas. Love a meme.

20:37

Love a meme. That's fantastic. Sorry,

20:39

we're kind of going off the

20:41

subject, but I feel like that's

20:43

okay. I've been, again. I get

20:45

this really weird feeling when I'm

20:47

looking at things on the internet.

20:49

I already feel like an old

20:51

person. So everyone here knows I'm

20:54

tray, pretty vocal about being off

20:56

social media as much as I

20:58

can. Sometimes when I'm on the

21:00

road, my tip is just take

21:02

it off your phone and then

21:04

if you really need it, install

21:06

it. It's so prohibitive. Like I'll

21:08

be sitting on the toilet for

21:10

what I think is a long

21:13

sash. Turns out I'm there for

21:15

less time than it takes to

21:17

download YouTube. You know what I

21:19

mean? So just maybe don't entertain

21:21

yourself for five seconds. And also

21:23

public service announcement, full Andy Rooney,

21:25

full old guy. What is going

21:27

on? with everyone watching videos volume

21:30

on and making phone calls on

21:32

speaker. This is another one of

21:34

those things where like in the

21:36

90s the most depraved thing you

21:38

could do was be so self-absorbed

21:40

that you'd be talking loudly on

21:42

a phone or you know what

21:44

I mean like I guess it

21:46

wouldn't be the 90s but the

21:49

2000s you'd be like oh my

21:51

god what a like set up

21:53

that someone's a dush in an

21:55

action movie is he's loud on

21:57

the phone. It's the guy in

21:59

Diehard, Hans, Booby, I'm your white

22:01

knight. That guy that gets shot,

22:03

spoiler, he's allowed on the phone

22:06

guy, because he's just inconsiderate. That,

22:08

and I've already said this, but

22:10

like flipping through channels in a

22:12

dark room, like someone who can't

22:14

even watch one television channel, that's

22:16

the most deprived thing in the

22:18

world, and that's all we're doing.

22:20

But that's all fine, go, go

22:23

with God. But I don't understand,

22:25

like, middle-aged women. 22 year old

22:27

men, everyone's just rocking speaker phone

22:29

phone calls in an elevator. Yeah,

22:31

like going through reals with

22:33

the volume on. And that too.

22:35

And I'm sorry, but like. And

22:37

speaker phone. Yeah, yeah, also the

22:39

speaker phone. Yeah, yeah. Where they're

22:42

just like, okay, I'm in an

22:44

elevator, I'm gonna be in my room

22:46

in a minute. There's a real call

22:48

that I just heard. And I

22:50

was like, I'd like to make

22:52

America shame again. Well and bear

22:54

or disgust I think covers

22:56

and maybe it's not great

22:58

but like we've are we've

23:00

covered this ad nauseum but

23:03

like if I I'm so

23:05

triggered by being feeling invisible

23:07

or inconsidered that if I

23:09

order an oatmeal latte and

23:11

then they say okay what

23:13

kind of milk I'll just

23:15

for a flash I'm like yeah

23:17

you're my enemy. So you're saying

23:19

you're my enemy? Oh, I see.

23:22

You've made a very insignificant enemy

23:24

today, my friend. You're going to

23:26

make me say oat twice? Here's another

23:28

bit, because I love doing the

23:31

bits up top. Without a doubt, we're

23:33

going to get into the into something.

23:35

The needy greedy. We watched the Jim

23:37

Henson documentary. It's called Idea Man. I

23:40

don't know. But I have a lot to

23:42

say about that. Well, I'm very glad.

23:44

Duncan Trussel is great in

23:46

it. But Jim Henson is

23:48

obviously incredible. Yeah. And I loved

23:51

every, he's almost like a Mr.

23:53

Rogers kind of quality. He's so

23:55

pure. But he also isn't. That was

23:57

the shock. Yeah, to me. Well, that

23:59

leads. to the bit. So he and

24:01

his wife didn't vibe. And like

24:03

the kids remember him fighting. Fighting like

24:06

all night through a hotel door,

24:08

like hearing them fighting and they eventually

24:10

got divorced. And there's no disrespect

24:12

or shade here. I'm just saying like

24:14

Jim Henson sounds like Kermit the

24:16

frog. Exactly like Kermit frog. So can

24:19

you imagine hearing through a wall

24:21

like, shut up bitch. Oh,

24:26

is that what you want? You

24:28

want half of my money? We'll come

24:30

and get it because it's right

24:32

up your own ass. And she's like,

24:34

I just like anything with that

24:36

voice. We need to have a serious

24:38

conversation. Your mother and I are

24:41

having a hard time. It's not your

24:43

fault. Any time it is not

24:45

your fault guys. I couldn't Kermit. I

24:47

couldn't get over it the entire

24:49

documentary. And Frank Oz too is like,

24:51

oh, hey Ernie. Oh, when I

24:53

heard him talk, I heard him, he

24:55

sounded exactly like Miss Piggy to

24:58

me. He does sound like Miss Piggy.

25:00

Like obviously he's doing a higher

25:02

register in that. This is before we

25:04

cared about casting like that because

25:06

now it would have to be an

25:08

actual pig. But back then it

25:10

was Frank Oz. Yeah. He

25:13

was like, Jim, I think

25:15

we have to get up. I

25:17

can't really do it. You're

25:19

making the bit funnier. They had

25:21

meanings where they're like, I

25:23

don't know We're going to get

25:25

to do this. I don't

25:27

know. The producers just pulled out.

25:29

They pulled out. The financing

25:31

is gone. The finance. It is

25:33

not easy being green. And

25:38

another guy's looking up at the

25:40

numbers. He's like, Mark. Mark, Mark,

25:42

Mark. Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark.

25:45

beep, beep, beep, beep. And

25:47

Fawzi is Miss Piggy. Let's

25:49

just say it. Similar boys.

25:51

Yeah, similar boy. Hey, I

25:54

can't do it. Not today.

25:56

Not today, Satan. Not today,

25:58

Satan. So go ahead. That

26:00

was that was the bit I couldn't wait

26:02

to get out. I feel like there's a good chance

26:04

that's a podcast bit. It's hard

26:06

to get people to laugh. And

26:09

he's so magical and wonderful. I

26:11

almost don't want to, but it's

26:13

pretty funny. Yeah, I loved, I

26:15

didn't really know. I remember hearing

26:18

that like he didn't like the way

26:20

that he got boxed in to being

26:22

like the puppet man. Well, yeah. But

26:24

I didn't, that's all I knew. I

26:27

didn't know that he made like trippy

26:29

like short films. Oh yeah. I didn't

26:31

either. I'm saying that like I did.

26:33

Yeah. You ever try and get away

26:35

with that? Oh yeah. Even though I

26:37

didn't either. Totally. I definitely do

26:40

that. And I really feel like

26:42

I know when people are doing that.

26:44

Would you have known? With me? Just

26:46

now? No? This is like when I

26:48

was like, I think I could have

26:51

gotten away with it. I'm always

26:53

noticing what people are wearing and

26:55

you're like close your eyes. What

26:57

color is my shirt? Remember this

26:59

on the pod? This just happened

27:01

and I was like green. It

27:04

was red. Anyway, so I just

27:06

got busted that I don't. I

27:08

don't know what people are doing

27:10

that. But these numbers are plummeting.

27:13

We are gonna be bankrupt people.

27:15

Wake the fuck up! I think

27:17

there is a part of

27:19

me. And I wonder

27:22

if you're laughing.

27:24

It is really serious.

27:26

Focus up. Oh, kermi.

27:29

I really want to

27:31

try to do Miss Piggy

27:33

better. I can't really

27:35

do it. Oh, kermi.

27:38

Oh, kermi. I think there

27:40

is a part of

27:42

me. And I wonder

27:44

if you see this.

27:46

Scrooge! That no good

27:48

scrooge! Welcome to just two

27:51

lunatics, try out voices. But

27:53

come on man, I'll say

27:55

it a million, AI would

27:58

never make this. No. would

28:00

never be, it won't bullshit. It's

28:02

too good. Yeah. I can, I

28:04

actually completely agree it would want

28:06

to keep it moving. It would

28:08

be like, well clearly people are

28:11

going to want some sort of

28:13

fact or something and I'm like,

28:15

no, the show is, oh Scrooge,

28:17

tiny Tim. That was good. That

28:19

was really good. I do think

28:21

this is a, this little side

28:23

tangent, but I really feel in

28:25

like my chorist core. that I

28:28

relate to Miss Piggy. I was

28:30

thinking about this last night and

28:32

I was like, but what about

28:34

me? Really relates to her because

28:36

that's not like, well Kermit Ed

28:38

and Miss Piggy are the same.

28:40

They're misfits. It's not easy being

28:43

green. Every kid knows the feeling

28:45

of not fitting in. And Miss

28:47

Piggy I think is just the

28:49

female version of that. And I

28:51

really related like the primary feeling

28:53

that I had growing up. was

28:55

that I that everyone around me

28:57

like had a gift like a

29:00

talent and I didn't really have

29:02

a talent and that's that's what

29:04

they pointed out about Miss Biggie

29:06

is that she's not good her

29:08

only talent is her gravitas yeah

29:10

and so she knows she stinks

29:12

deep down she knows she stinks

29:15

but all the only place she

29:17

has yeah to never admit it

29:19

and I think that's the way

29:21

that I was when I was

29:23

like 10 like zero to 10.

29:25

Yeah, I was like You know

29:27

I was like the the queen

29:29

of the crop What's that? Cream?

29:32

Cream of the crop. Queen of

29:34

the South, I think. I was

29:36

just like the, I was just

29:38

walking around that church in like

29:40

platform shoes and I would like

29:42

lead the kids and songs. And

29:44

I was like very clueless and

29:47

I thought I was like as

29:49

pretty as her and I was

29:51

very like confident. You're going piggy.

29:53

I was going piggy. And then

29:55

adolescence just was like too hard

29:57

of a reality check that I

29:59

never. really came back from. Right.

30:02

But I really think there

30:04

is a there is a

30:06

version of me that still

30:08

lives in there that is like

30:10

totally Miss Piggy. And here's

30:12

another way. Well I wouldn't

30:14

love you if you didn't

30:16

have some Miss Piggy in

30:18

there. I love a Miss Piggy.

30:21

Thank you. But I also relate

30:23

to her her... Unrequited

30:25

affection. For the good-looking

30:27

guy. For the cool... Well, that's

30:30

why I've been chomping at the

30:32

bit quietly over here, because I

30:34

have a lot of feelings about

30:36

Kermit. I'm not a Kermit. I

30:38

would like to be a Kermit.

30:40

But to me, Kermit is Shalemay.

30:42

Kermit is... Bob Dylan is a

30:44

Kermit. Like, a scandal noted,

30:46

a woody Allen. That's how I think

30:48

of him. That's... I'm going to agree.

30:51

Similar to Bob Dylan, though.

30:53

Oh, shots fired. I'm just kidding. I

30:55

just think the scandal shrouds Woody so

30:57

much that I don't think you can

30:59

say, you know, like Bob Dylan. You

31:01

mean like, because then that's saying that

31:04

Bob Dylan is... By the transitive

31:06

property. We're not saying Woody Allen's

31:08

a genius songwriter. Have you heard

31:10

him on the clarinet? Jay-K. Anyway,

31:12

put that to one side. Who

31:14

cares? What I'm saying is, there's

31:16

like a... Well, first of all,

31:18

Kermit skinny. So I feel like

31:20

to be a Kermit you had

31:22

to have been skinny. And I

31:24

know that might be silly. Because

31:26

to be a piggy, you don't

31:29

have, because she's big boned, as

31:31

we would say in the 80s.

31:33

But you don't have to be

31:35

a big bone to be a

31:37

Miss Piggy. I'll concede that. But

31:39

I feel like there's something, Kermit

31:41

is, whoops, am I, am fazzy?

31:43

I have a rubber chicken. I

31:45

have a scarf. I'm wearing my dad's

31:47

borrowed hat and I'm going up and

31:49

I'm like, hey, would you? I can't

31:51

do it. Oh, we can all hear

31:54

it. I do love a Fuzzy. I

31:56

love Fuzzy. He's the best. Yeah. And

31:58

then Joe De Rosa is gone. I mean,

32:00

that's all we know. All

32:02

we can say. All we

32:04

know is Joe De Rosa

32:07

and Al Pacino Arganzo. Or

32:09

is Joe De Rosa the

32:11

like crab or like, what

32:13

is that thing? Oh, he's

32:16

a prong. The prong. Yeah,

32:18

yeah. I don't think Joe's

32:20

the prong. No, you're right.

32:22

He's gone. You're right. But

32:24

I do think like if

32:27

I'm Miss Piggy, I was

32:29

I there have been times

32:31

in my life where I've

32:33

been. like chasing the Kermit

32:35

who is just like sort

32:38

of mid-level interested in me.

32:40

Yes. And I'm just like,

32:42

hi. I love you. Can

32:44

I say I relate so

32:46

hard to Miss Piggy. Yeah.

32:49

And being like. Oh, imagine

32:51

getting in there. Yeah. Lara

32:53

Bice. Starting to sound like

32:55

Lara Bice. Lara Bice is

32:58

doing a very good new

33:00

take on sort of that

33:02

energy. I don't even want

33:04

to say it's a Miss

33:06

Biggie energy. But that gravitas,

33:09

that's one of the things

33:11

that makes Lara so funny.

33:13

Yes. But then I love

33:15

for myself that I ended

33:17

up marrying a Fuzzy. Because

33:20

I ended up marrying a

33:22

Fuzzi. Can't believe my look.

33:24

I can't do that. That

33:26

sounded like Miss Piggy, though.

33:28

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

33:31

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

33:33

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

33:35

Mm-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h- Yeah, I'm sure she's

33:37

now she's probably rolls her

33:39

eyes and she's like well

33:42

Where to start? I do

33:44

like that Jay-K Mikey What

33:46

I was gonna say about

33:48

the doc is first of

33:51

all I think I will

33:53

forever Remember watching it because

33:55

it was Not to get

33:57

too much into this part,

33:59

but because like there are

34:02

these spires happening in LA

34:04

and it's just a very

34:06

stressed out. Yes, just so you

34:08

know I think we'll talk about that

34:10

in the intro. Yes, I figured we

34:12

would. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this will be

34:14

after we cover the morning of that.

34:17

But so it's been like a very

34:19

sad tense time like my body

34:21

has been so stressed out just

34:24

checking in on friends and feeling

34:26

really helpless. that like so many of

34:28

my friends are going through such a

34:30

hard time and there's nothing really much

34:32

I can do right now for them.

34:34

So that's the like state my nervous

34:37

system has been in for the last

34:39

two days and then your brother came

34:41

last night because he lives in LA

34:43

and he's coming to find refuge

34:46

and he suggested that we watch

34:48

the documentary which I wanted to

34:50

see and I had just totally

34:52

forgotten about it and the like...

34:54

it really was the gift of

34:57

like film and in the best

34:59

way where I was transported like

35:01

for that hour and a

35:03

half. Yeah we were just

35:05

in the 70s making puppets.

35:08

Yes and I and

35:10

remembering the like very specific

35:13

heart warmth that comes

35:15

from the muppets like it's

35:17

such a specific feeling that's

35:20

the through line through all

35:22

of the Muppet stuff that

35:24

like my body just

35:26

knows and like rested

35:29

in it was like oh

35:31

this room the walls are

35:33

felt and everything is soft

35:36

and beautiful colors and like

35:38

I can just take a

35:41

little nap in this room

35:43

and it felt so good

35:45

and I really was

35:47

so inspired by the creativity and

35:49

this is the main little nugget

35:52

that I wanted to talk about

35:54

is like I I'm not going to

35:56

say I'm doing the artist's way. There's

35:58

been a pause. I've done the

36:01

artist's way. I was on the

36:03

way. I was on the way.

36:05

I've lost my way. I've lost

36:07

my artist's way. But I had

36:09

done it part of it before.

36:12

And you know, sort of the

36:14

thesis of that. It's very Stephen

36:16

Pressfield too. Get out there. Or

36:18

the war of art. Get it

36:20

right. It's like your your whole

36:22

well-being, like your whole purpose here.

36:25

is to open the channel to

36:27

creativity and collaborate with the creator

36:29

or the creative energy that made

36:31

this whole life happen. And you

36:33

can either flow with that or

36:35

you can ignore and resist it.

36:38

But like all these things like.

36:40

You know, and this is oversimplifying

36:42

their work and I'm so I'm

36:44

I understand it's not this simple,

36:46

but I'm just expressing the thesis

36:49

of this, which is like any

36:51

misalignment, like anxiety, depression, even a

36:53

lot of like chronic pain or

36:55

physical cases, they would say comes

36:57

from a lack of being connected

36:59

to your creativity. Right. The artist

37:02

way says that as well. Yeah.

37:04

Oh well. And I mean, yeah,

37:06

I'm not sure. I think there's

37:08

something to that. Can I? I

37:10

do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

37:13

But yeah, jump in. I'd love

37:15

to jump in. Because I was

37:17

just talking to somebody, I was

37:19

talking to our friend Sam yesterday,

37:21

because one of the, I won't

37:23

even say silver linings, but one

37:26

of the things that has been

37:28

very loving and sweet about this

37:30

trying California time, is that you

37:32

know, where we are a lot

37:34

of people lost their power. coming

37:36

to our house and there we

37:39

were like hanging out and it

37:41

was very communal and very sweet

37:43

and there's a baby crawling around

37:45

and Lila's playing with a little

37:47

friend and I'm hanging out with

37:50

Sam and Aria's at the table

37:52

doing her work and you're in

37:54

the office doing it. And it

37:56

was just like, oh wow, love

37:58

it. I love how forced together

38:00

we are. And we kept talking

38:03

about that. I was like, we

38:05

could just do this. But for

38:07

some reason, we don't want to

38:09

be embarrassed, we don't want to

38:11

be impolite, we don't want to

38:14

impose all these things. But we were

38:16

talking about creativity and,

38:18

you know, I'm really fascinated now

38:20

that I've had ideas, even ideas

38:22

that are completely fleshed out. And

38:24

even in some cases written, like kind

38:26

of. done, like in the tweaking stage.

38:29

And then I, you've heard me talk

38:31

about this, these projects on the show

38:33

a lot. Why am I dragging my

38:35

feet? Why won't I just do it?

38:38

And like people would be like, oh.

38:40

you know, or I have conversations, maybe it's

38:42

a fear of success, maybe you don't

38:44

want your life to change. You know,

38:46

that's one of those early things. It's

38:48

like, you don't want to be like

38:50

better than your friends, do you? Oh

38:53

my gosh. And I get that. But

38:55

I didn't think that was it. In

38:57

my case, because I'm already way better

38:59

than my friend. Hey, hey, but the

39:01

truth of that joke is that I have,

39:03

I've already gotten over the fact, I'm

39:06

okay, I'm okay with that. If that

39:08

project, and it's not just

39:10

one project, it's several, if

39:12

that project existed, the world

39:14

would be exactly the same.

39:16

Oh, interesting. Yeah, I not tell you

39:18

this? No. Yeah, I've had that, like,

39:21

one of the movie ideas in particular,

39:23

I was like, why won't I fucking

39:25

push this? Because if it existed,

39:27

the world would be the same. It's

39:30

not adding anything. It doesn't need to

39:32

exist, whereas Val and I are working

39:34

on a show right now, and I'm

39:36

like, that needs to exist. It would

39:38

heal people, it would touch people, but

39:40

also entertain and make people laugh, but

39:42

it's also like the world would be

39:45

different if that show exists. So

39:47

like even something, so it doesn't

39:49

have to be, you know, whatever, some

39:51

example of Shakespeare. Big mouth changed the

39:53

world. Like a show like that about

39:55

puberty that really looked at puberty at

39:58

puberty in an on a show. and

40:00

deeply funny way. The world was

40:02

different. And then it poo-poo! It

40:04

changed how every cartoon will be,

40:07

it'll be a post-big-mouth idea. Because

40:09

it'll, it'll, at least it'll be

40:11

an option to be that extreme

40:13

and that loud and that wild

40:16

and that honest and all that

40:18

sort of stuff. So I was

40:20

like. Now that I'm 45 and

40:23

I'm feeling myself it's harder for

40:25

me to get jazzed about ideas

40:27

I'm not just a young man

40:29

Playing any bucket like a drum.

40:32

I'm just like I want to

40:34

do things that are me going

40:36

answering a call like you're saying

40:39

like answering something sort of divine

40:41

like that this feel even if

40:43

it is like big mouth This

40:45

feels like what I should be

40:48

doing this feels like I'm uniquely

40:50

equipped to make this and I

40:52

think that's why I get stodged

40:55

up on so many ideas and

40:57

can't move forward. Because I'm like,

40:59

because if that thing already existed,

41:01

everything would be the same. Yeah,

41:04

that's really interesting. Well, a couple

41:06

things about that. One is Bill

41:08

Lawrence, the creator of Stringing Dead

41:11

Lasso, Spin City, which I didn't

41:13

know he created Spin City, and

41:15

I used to love Spin City.

41:17

Scrubs. He says, If you're writing

41:20

a script and any scene could

41:22

be lifted out and the story

41:24

would go the same, then you

41:27

don't need that scene. So I'm

41:29

thinking of it in terms of

41:31

like a life. If you have

41:33

a life and any, what you're

41:36

saying is like if any project

41:38

could just be lifted out and

41:40

nothing would be changed, then like

41:42

don't invest. your time and energy

41:45

in that project. But I also

41:47

do wonder, just let's play in

41:49

this pool for a little while

41:52

and see how it maybe works

41:54

with or against what you just

41:56

said. I really have been feeling,

41:58

I've been enjoying adopting sort of

42:01

the creativity. as my spiritual practice

42:03

world view that is taught in

42:05

the artist's way, where it is

42:08

like, is it really that

42:10

simple that we just are,

42:12

we were created in a

42:15

creative reality and we were

42:17

born to keep creating in

42:20

whatever way that looks, that

42:22

can look like so many

42:25

different things, but like. you

42:27

know it and I'm sure a lot

42:29

of the people listening know it just

42:31

sort of that flow state that you

42:34

get in where you feel like a

42:36

clear channel and you feel like something

42:38

is being handed to you and you

42:40

are documenting it by making it as

42:43

quickly as you can and and

42:45

it's also like not that effortless

42:47

often it's very effortful but it's

42:50

j-k rolling on the train to

42:52

London where she thought of Harry

42:54

Potter and it's entirety I believe.

42:56

Yeah, and you just are, and then

42:58

you, you know, there's like

43:00

really hard moments, but that

43:03

kind of hard feels very

43:05

different. It feels like good,

43:07

like you want to, you

43:09

want to, it's like how

43:11

people explain exercising. It's how

43:13

I've been told exercising

43:16

can be for some people. Yeah.

43:18

But I'm just like, I'm wondering

43:20

if it's that simple. And

43:22

like, so. Instead of me being

43:25

like, okay, like how do I, you

43:27

know, giving my energy to all these different

43:29

other ways of regulating, I'm not saying

43:31

I fully believe this, but I'm like,

43:34

what if instead of being like, how

43:36

do I regulate? What do I do

43:38

with my anxiety? Like, how do I

43:40

process all of my trauma so that

43:42

I can like, you know, move past

43:45

it like I do think there is

43:47

a place for that but I'm but

43:49

I also am wondering if I'm in

43:51

the stage of my journey now where

43:54

I'm like what if I just put

43:56

all my energy into clearing that channel

43:58

yeah so that I can be and showing up

44:00

for my creativity every day, at least

44:03

for a little bit of time. And

44:05

what I have, what I do know,

44:07

and I've said this on the podcast

44:10

before, is like when I was making

44:12

my short film in every stage of

44:14

that. I noticed my body didn't hurt,

44:17

I didn't have the same aches and

44:19

pains, I didn't feel scared of life

44:21

in this sort of low humway that

44:23

I do all the time, otherwise. Like

44:26

I felt like bold and... You had

44:28

purpose. I had purpose and I felt

44:30

like playing and I felt like it

44:33

was safe to play. And you were

44:35

participating, yeah. So that was the thing

44:37

that struck me about Jim Hinson is,

44:40

I think someone even says like, I

44:42

don't think he was afraid of anything

44:44

creative. creatively. And it really seems like

44:46

if the documentary is to be believed,

44:49

he didn't, he wasn't the type of

44:51

person who had like a lot of

44:53

anxiety or neuroses. No. It was, except

44:56

about being boxed in, like stopping his

44:58

flow. Stopping his creativity. Yeah. So that's

45:00

the question that rose for me was,

45:02

you know, because I am in this,

45:05

I can get in this. zone where

45:07

I do feel like the scary story

45:09

that I'll tell myself is I'm too

45:12

afraid to ever really do anything like

45:14

I'm just too small and afraid and

45:16

I'm like watching him not seem to

45:19

have any of that I'm wondering like

45:21

it's a chicken and egg thing you

45:23

know like is he not afraid because

45:25

he's not afraid because he's not afraid

45:28

because he's not afraid because he's not

45:30

afraid because he's not afraid because he's

45:32

not afraid because he's not afraid because

45:35

he's not afraid because he's not afraid

45:37

because he's Or is he not afraid

45:39

because he is prioritizing his creativity? Was

45:42

this in the documentary that Paul McCartney

45:44

said I never did therapy, I always

45:46

just did music? Because I heard that

45:48

somewhere else then. It seems very similar.

45:51

Like he was so in his flow

45:53

and all that sort of stuff. I

45:55

did, with any documentary, I always get

45:58

a slight feeling of him. like, I

46:00

don't think you're giving me the

46:02

whole picture here. And that's

46:04

possible. Which of course, there's a

46:07

whole, I'm not saying it's some

46:09

dastardly secret, I'm just saying like,

46:11

there was a lot of like, you know,

46:13

I don't, there was a lot of,

46:15

this is a dead icon. That's all

46:17

also. To dead icon, people are going

46:19

to be dead iconing. And it's

46:21

made by Ron Howard who is

46:23

just like, he's not going to

46:25

be like, let's find the shadow. And

46:28

I didn't want that either. That's why

46:30

we all tuned in. None of us

46:32

wanted the tell-all. I have a

46:35

couple thoughts about that. One of

46:37

them I was like, you know, speaking

46:39

sort of big picture, I think

46:41

for a lot of people, what we

46:43

consider art. writing, music, painting,

46:46

photography, whatever it poetry,

46:48

whatever it might be,

46:50

that might be the right, that

46:52

might be how they engage in

46:54

the flow of the world. I'm

46:56

just putting back to you as

46:58

the thought experiment, I'm like, I

47:00

feel like some people, their lives

47:02

might just be their art project.

47:04

And it's like they never, it

47:07

never even crosses their mind. to

47:09

write it down or create it

47:11

or showcase it. But I'm also

47:13

like, I feel like the divine

47:15

agenda of creating and expressing

47:17

and exploring and evolving and growing.

47:19

I think everybody's involved in that,

47:22

including the stiffest stiff in Boise,

47:24

Idaho that just works and sells

47:26

insurance or whatever. I'm just trying

47:28

to say something ordinary. Their life

47:31

can also be art and they

47:33

can also be in the flow

47:35

or not in the flow. So

47:38

I can get very liberal with

47:40

that. The problem, I know you

47:42

can. The problem is I'm like,

47:44

I bet that guy in Boise

47:47

selling insurance would probably

47:49

enjoy a directed... Like I'm gonna make

47:51

something out of nothing. Like your life

47:53

can be art. Yes. And then it's

47:55

like, but then there's something about looking

47:58

into the portal and becoming. like

48:00

a blank piece of paper and

48:02

saying like what would you like

48:04

to write on me? Exactly. Yeah,

48:06

no, I think we are creating

48:09

a life every moment. So I

48:11

don't think it does have to

48:13

be anything like outside of that.

48:15

I do think the one trick

48:17

of like if you're going to

48:19

keep that channel open and be

48:21

creating a life. The only thing

48:24

you have to do is really

48:26

be seeing it that way. Yeah.

48:28

And I do think, I can

48:30

speak for myself, there's been huge

48:32

swaths of my life where that

48:34

all felt really blocked up and

48:37

not, like that channel was not

48:39

open. And I was, I was

48:41

creating a life, but it didn't

48:43

feel like a, you know what

48:45

I mean. Look, I'll talk out

48:47

the other side of my face

48:49

and be like, yeah. Someone else

48:52

could make a documentary about a

48:54

very dull dull, you know what

48:56

I mean, person and find the

48:58

art in it. Yeah. But I

49:00

don't know if it's just like

49:02

everybody's doing it. I don't know.

49:05

I don't know. Well, I think

49:07

you are pointing to something which

49:09

is that it doesn't have to

49:11

be like you're writing or painting

49:13

or whatever like these, the arts.

49:15

I do think it's more about

49:17

a state of being. that people

49:20

do truly, I know we made

49:22

the joke, but like get from

49:24

exercising or like, you know, riding

49:26

their bike cross country or climbing

49:28

mountains. Well, okay, so Rupert, Spira,

49:30

Alert. It talks about in the

49:32

non-dual understanding, it's like beauty is

49:35

recognizing that an object shares your

49:37

inherent nature, that everything is made

49:39

of the knowing of it, including

49:41

you and your body and your

49:43

mind, and including a sunset. So

49:45

there's this recognition, and then love

49:48

is recognizing that you and I

49:50

share our essential nature. So it's

49:52

not a relationship. It's the dissolving

49:54

of relationship is what he would

49:56

say. It's standing sort of naked

49:58

as... the exact same thing. Same

50:00

with beauty, you see a sunset

50:03

and you merge with it. We

50:05

even use words like that. You

50:07

get lost in a sunset. It's

50:09

because for a moment, you weren't

50:11

there. It was just knowing

50:13

itself as a sunset. So

50:15

there's this selfless or unifying

50:18

quality. So love and beauty

50:20

being like, that's the art of

50:22

living. So I think if you're

50:24

living in a way that's conscious.

50:26

and Murgie that that is art

50:29

no matter what you're doing.

50:31

Yes, I agree with

50:33

that and that's interesting

50:35

because that I'm wondering

50:37

if it's just one of the

50:39

ways like if when we are

50:41

the things that we like really

50:44

love that sort of align us

50:46

and give us that

50:48

fulfillment. might be things

50:50

that mirror the nature of

50:52

reality, which is love. So

50:55

loving is like the number

50:57

one. We feel so good

50:59

when we're falling in love,

51:02

when we're, you know, when

51:04

people are actively loving us,

51:06

because the truest nature of

51:09

reality is love. Okay. But

51:11

then also, we love

51:13

stillness. Because the truest

51:15

nature of reality is totally

51:17

still and present. You know,

51:20

we love the ocean because

51:22

a true nature of reality is

51:24

this sort of in and out,

51:27

in and out, you know. And

51:29

then we love creativity because...

51:31

you know, there is a mysterious

51:33

force that will make a green

51:36

shoot come out of ashes. Yeah.

51:38

And we don't know what that

51:40

force is, but that is the

51:42

nature of reality. Right. This,

51:44

so to mythologize it

51:47

a little bit, there's a God

51:49

that is completely sustained, content,

51:51

perfect and whole, and

51:54

yet it elected to

51:56

divide and split and dance

51:58

and forget. This is all

52:01

just sort of like a metaphor,

52:03

obviously, but it's like in the

52:05

name of creativity or in the

52:07

name of exploration or in the

52:09

name of like Leila's name, play

52:11

or dance. Which I would think

52:13

all of those things fall under

52:15

creativity. I agree. Rupert would say

52:17

just because it's its nature to

52:19

overflow out of itself. In the

52:21

same way that it's the sun's

52:23

nature to shine, the one's nature

52:25

is to play and express and

52:27

spill over. And it's sloppy and

52:29

it's messy and it can be

52:31

scary and it can be all

52:33

these things. But then there, I'm

52:35

totally with you, but I love

52:37

this conversation because I'm like, yeah.

52:39

So there's something very similar. If

52:41

we go with the consciousness only

52:43

model, right, that God is consciousness,

52:45

that God is the knowing of

52:48

behind all knowing. And we think

52:50

like, but how did God create

52:52

anything out of anything? It's like,

52:54

I always think it's crazy that

52:56

you can do that. too. You

52:58

can hear the sound of a

53:00

violin in your head or you

53:02

can picture Baybuth's tiny legs. You

53:04

can you can picture and so

53:06

you're doing you are conjuring up

53:08

thoughts are well springing out of

53:10

you constantly. Feelings are coming and

53:12

going you are created and you

53:14

are creating and you are creation

53:16

and it's not that far from

53:18

going how could one perfect knowing

53:20

make a universe, it's like, that's

53:22

what we're doing. That's what we're

53:24

doing. That's what we're doing. And

53:26

the only way that the universe

53:28

is known is with knowing, which

53:30

is just more of the same

53:32

stuff. If you think that matter

53:35

is real, it's hard to think

53:37

how could one knowing make matter?

53:39

When you consider that matter is

53:41

only known by knowing, and I

53:43

know this is getting kind of

53:45

trippy. I just mean, I touched

53:47

this. pillow and the only experience

53:49

I have of it is knowing

53:51

the feeling of it and the

53:53

feeling of it is made of

53:55

knowing. I know this is really

53:57

trippy but the matter isn't really

53:59

a thing it's a it's a

54:01

it's a it's a modulation or

54:03

it's the activity of knowing it's

54:05

it's knowing momentarily dancing as

54:07

a feeling and momentarily dancing

54:10

as a texture and momentarily

54:12

dancing as a thought or

54:14

and you realize boy you

54:16

really touched on something I

54:18

love talking about you realize

54:20

that like today we were talking

54:22

about how smelling How drinking

54:24

is more immediately satisfying than eating.

54:26

Like if you're really thirsty, you drink

54:29

and you feel it. But it's so

54:31

weird that like, oh, actually what brought

54:33

it to mind was that smelling is

54:35

tasting, like you smell something and you

54:37

kind of know what it tastes like.

54:39

But really, look at the data, look

54:41

at the raw input of that. Smelling

54:43

is tasting, it's both knowing. One is

54:45

something you know and you say that's

54:48

a smell. One is something you know

54:50

and you say that's a taste. And

54:52

they both trace it back. They both

54:54

say and where are they happening in

54:56

the same place? My voice is happening

54:58

in the same place. Is happening in

55:00

the same place right now for everyone

55:02

as your thought about what I'm saying.

55:05

You might be thinking this is nonsense

55:07

is over lane. It's blurred. It's in

55:09

the same field, for lack of a

55:11

better term, as your feeling of your

55:14

butt in your seat, as your thought,

55:16

as this sound. And really, sight is

55:18

just the most elusive one. But sight

55:20

is also just the most seductive one.

55:23

But sight is also just knowing. It's

55:25

funny that I talk to you where

55:27

I'm like, I don't know what I

55:30

care about. And then I start

55:32

talking about this and I get

55:34

real enough. It's like, it's also

55:36

so funny because I'm with you.

55:38

I really went there so I

55:40

know everything you're saying, but it

55:42

also is when it's not totally

55:44

your mode, it's it can sound really

55:46

dry. And I think I'm just,

55:48

it's crazy that it's taking me

55:50

this long to realize like this

55:53

is your offering is that you

55:55

get so worked up and excited

55:57

about something that's very

55:59

dry. something that's really dry.

56:01

I'm the only one that's shouting

56:03

about it. Yeah, no, I say

56:05

what Rupert and other teachers that

56:08

I love are saying, but I

56:10

shout it. You're like so excited.

56:12

And it's not performative. It's because

56:14

I get so excited about it.

56:16

No, I know about it. But

56:18

Rupert would say if you're, if

56:21

you're, it's easy with a sound

56:23

for some reason, if you hear

56:25

like a bird chirping in the

56:27

distance or my voice or whatever,

56:29

it's like. He says, close your

56:31

eyes, hear the sound of my

56:34

voice, and then reach out an

56:36

imaginary hand. He says this, he

56:38

goes, made of pure sensitivity, and

56:40

touch what sound is made of.

56:42

And it's such a helpful exercise,

56:44

or touch what a feeling is

56:47

made of. Like you might be

56:49

like, I'm a little hungry. Go

56:51

touch, what is... what you're labeling

56:53

hungry made of, and then go

56:55

touch what the sound of a

56:57

bird is made of. And you

57:00

really start to get the tantric

57:02

experiential knowing, not just a fun

57:04

philosophy, an experience lived in knowing,

57:06

that a feeling and a sound

57:08

and a thought. a sensation of

57:11

perception, all of these things are

57:13

only made of the knowing of

57:15

them, which is the most boring

57:17

thing you can say, and is

57:19

the most exciting thing you can

57:21

say. Sure. Once you kind of,

57:24

this is gonna sound crass, but

57:26

like you make love to, like

57:28

you experience it. Well, yeah. To

57:30

merge with it. That's what, I'm

57:32

not surprised Tantra is a type

57:34

of love making. Yeah. Which is

57:37

very like, it's sensual. And let's

57:39

recognize that all that's happening is.

57:41

It is very sexy. So there's

57:43

something about... Yeah, because it's funny,

57:45

it's the opposite of how it

57:47

sounds. It's like if you just

57:50

are thinking about this as a

57:52

concept, it is incredibly dry and

57:54

void. Like, it's the least sexy

57:56

sounding kind of thing. But if

57:58

you are experiencing it, then it's

58:00

like to reach out a... of

58:03

pure sensation, sensitivity and touch sound,

58:05

the sound of a bird is

58:07

to be so much with that

58:09

sound. That's what I mean, it's

58:11

sex. Yeah, everything is so vibrant

58:13

and alive and getting your full

58:16

attention. Yeah. It's, no, you're absolutely

58:18

right. It's making me think of

58:20

Tara Brock talks about this thing

58:22

about intention where she, her son.

58:24

got an ant farm and just

58:26

spent like hours and hours watching

58:29

these ants, you know, move. I

58:31

might be getting the details of

58:33

the story wrong, but the message

58:35

is the same. And then he

58:37

went to school that day and

58:39

she picked him up and he

58:42

was crying and he said the

58:44

kids at school were stomping ants

58:46

on the sidewalk. And it's like

58:48

if he hadn't had that ant

58:50

farm... and given his focused attention

58:52

to the way ants live and

58:55

really like merged with them in

58:57

this way he never would have

58:59

noticed that right so it's just

59:01

like how powerful it is to

59:03

give life our full attention it

59:05

is and there's also see this

59:08

is I love that so beautiful

59:10

so I don't want to feel

59:12

like I'm changing or going back

59:14

a click But there's something... But

59:16

I heard that story in the

59:18

knowing. Sorry. Just go back to

59:21

the point of the knowing. The

59:23

sound of you telling that story

59:25

was bringing me back to the

59:27

more interesting thing. No, I'm just

59:29

kidding. No, when you were talking

59:31

about that merging, and again, in

59:34

the interest of making this more

59:36

alive and interesting, it's a little

59:38

bit like... It's not sneaky, but

59:40

it's indulgent. If you hear a

59:42

bird chirping and you close your

59:44

eyes and you, you're asking yourself,

59:47

what does that sound made of?

59:49

And you're trying to run an

59:51

imaginary hand through it. and

59:53

you're saying, where

59:55

does that sound

59:57

take place? And

1:00:00

recognizing that it

1:00:02

takes place in

1:00:04

you and that

1:00:06

it takes place

1:00:08

as you, that

1:00:11

it's made of the

1:00:13

knowing of it and that

1:00:15

you are made of the knowing

1:00:17

and you are the same thing

1:00:19

as that sound. My body is

1:00:21

like a series of

1:00:23

sensations and I

1:00:25

experience those in the exact same

1:00:28

way as I experience a bird

1:00:30

chirping and that is merging. That's

1:00:32

recognizing that me and the sound

1:00:34

of a bird are

1:00:36

experienced differently through thought. I

1:00:38

tell myself, I am not that bird.

1:00:40

I'm not that bird. That bird

1:00:43

isn't one of my thoughts. How do

1:00:45

I know that? Well, you heard

1:00:47

it too. All right. Well, now

1:00:49

we're getting pretty lava lamp, pretty chunky

1:00:51

funky, but if you didn't hear the bird

1:00:53

and I did, I would say, oh,

1:00:55

I guess it was one of my thoughts

1:00:57

and it would be exactly the same

1:00:59

to me. It's like this test. I always

1:01:01

think about this test when I say

1:01:03

lemon, like the fruit, a lemon, a lemon,

1:01:05

you see a lemon. I know I

1:01:07

always talk about this, but they proved this.

1:01:10

They had people, science

1:01:12

got curious. They had people looking

1:01:14

in a visor, looking at a

1:01:16

blank white screen and they would

1:01:18

say, one of the things they

1:01:20

would ask is if at the end

1:01:22

of the experiment, did we project anything? Like did

1:01:24

we put anything on the screen? What did

1:01:26

you see on the screen? And they would say

1:01:28

lemon and they would for half a second

1:01:30

flash a lemon and then

1:01:32

they would say, did we project anything

1:01:34

on the screen? Of course they would

1:01:36

camouflage the experiment better than that. And

1:01:38

everyone would say no because they couldn't

1:01:40

discern the difference between a screen flashing

1:01:42

a lemon or your mind flashing a

1:01:44

lemon. And the whole non -dual thing is

1:01:46

like, what's the difference? What is really

1:01:49

the difference? There is no out there.

1:01:51

There is no lemon on the screen

1:01:53

or lemon in your mind. All of

1:01:55

these boundaries and borders and that's what

1:01:57

love is, is recognizing no boundaries, no

1:01:59

borders. I am. bird tweeting. Let's do

1:02:01

some ketamine. All right. We'll

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go to the, we'll go to the

1:02:06

mids here and then when we come

1:02:08

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1:02:10

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1:02:12

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I just wanted to say that I

1:06:26

filmed my special and since then to

1:06:29

start there, they went great, went fantastic.

1:06:31

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1:06:33

been waiting to like come back to

1:06:36

life, I've been waiting for some and

1:06:38

I'm just like mush. And now that

1:06:40

I'm, I don't know if it's because

1:06:43

I'm older, or if it's because I'm

1:06:45

just getting more honest with what a

1:06:47

labor, like a child-bearing labor it is

1:06:49

to like push a project over a

1:06:52

mountain. But like, now that I am

1:06:54

a little bit more in touch with

1:06:56

my feelings and everything, I'm like, oh

1:06:59

my gosh, taping a special is no

1:07:01

joke. No joke. Yeah. The amount of

1:07:03

like, just, I won't go on and

1:07:06

on about it, but like... while you're

1:07:08

leading up to it, you're thinking like,

1:07:10

I'll get a haircut. This is the

1:07:12

haircut for the special. It's what makes

1:07:15

it fun too. But it's a little

1:07:17

bit like planning a wedding. This is

1:07:19

my jacket. This will be the jacket

1:07:22

for the special. This will be the

1:07:24

shirt for the special. This will be

1:07:26

the city for the special. This will

1:07:29

be the set for the special. And

1:07:31

you're carrying all of this. And then

1:07:33

when it's done, I would have like

1:07:35

to say that it was this instant

1:07:38

like this instant like, like, But I've

1:07:40

been processing it. Sure. I can't even

1:07:42

look at it. Ricky sent me a

1:07:45

cut. I'm like, I can't even look

1:07:47

at this. There's such a vulnerability hangover.

1:07:49

I watched a little bit, Ricky, if

1:07:52

you hear this, just to see the

1:07:54

angles and it looks great. But it's

1:07:56

funny. I also, the big thing I

1:07:59

wanted to share was. listeners of the

1:08:01

show will remember that when I did

1:08:03

my special I'm Not For Everyone in

1:08:05

Minneapolis the first show the AC was

1:08:07

off I was sweaty and it wasn't

1:08:09

very good I was in my head

1:08:11

and then the second show was very

1:08:14

very good. This one incredibly similar. the

1:08:16

the crowd by the way everyone who

1:08:18

was there was amazing i did notice

1:08:20

that because it was like a seven

1:08:22

o'clock show on a friday people were

1:08:24

having a hard time getting there so

1:08:26

they were like empty seats even though

1:08:29

the show is sold out and the

1:08:31

vibe in the room was a little bit

1:08:33

like we made it yeah it wasn't like

1:08:35

easy for them to get there right

1:08:37

so that was a consideration i'm like

1:08:39

we should have done eight o'clock but

1:08:42

anyway went out started doing

1:08:44

the show and was fine, but also

1:08:46

very in my head, very like,

1:08:48

this isn't, this is the special.

1:08:50

And like nightmare of nightmares, I'm

1:08:52

in the first five minutes and

1:08:55

I'm like, what's the next part?

1:08:57

And just for half a second,

1:08:59

I was like, I don't know. And

1:09:01

I couldn't remember it. And

1:09:03

just luckily, just kind of

1:09:06

surrendered to that and trusted that

1:09:08

my body knew the next part. It's like.

1:09:10

Let the throat do it. Don't let the

1:09:12

brain do it. And then the throat, I've

1:09:14

done the special so many times, this hour

1:09:16

so many times, it picked up the slack

1:09:18

and it kept going. Yeah. But it was

1:09:21

very, not quite what do I do with

1:09:23

my hands, but it was like, where do

1:09:25

I stand? Where's the spotlight end? Oh,

1:09:27

I wish I could walk out to the edge. I love

1:09:29

walking out to the edge of stages and leaning over

1:09:31

the crowd. I can't do that because I'll be a

1:09:33

bad shot and I'll be a bad shot and I'll

1:09:36

be a bad shot and I'll be a bad shot.

1:09:38

Weirdly, famous people who like my

1:09:40

stand-up and I'm like, they're gonna

1:09:42

see this. This is the special.

1:09:44

Doing it while you're on the

1:09:46

stage. While I'm doing it going like,

1:09:49

it's not Billy Joel, but I'm like,

1:09:51

I wonder if Billy Joel will like

1:09:53

that bit. So in my head, still

1:09:55

doing it, but feeling this weird energy

1:09:57

of the lateness of the people.

1:10:00

maybe probably projecting that, but mostly

1:10:02

just feeling kind of stiff. But

1:10:04

this is the fascination. The reason

1:10:06

I mention the one in Minneapolis

1:10:08

is I'm like, maybe that's just

1:10:10

how it has to go. You

1:10:12

do two shows, you do one

1:10:14

word perfect, and you end up

1:10:16

using some of that. And then

1:10:18

the second one I go out

1:10:20

mad. Now this is, this I

1:10:22

think is, this is a little

1:10:24

embarrassing, but this is how I

1:10:26

really. think about doing stand-up comedy.

1:10:28

There's an athletic component and there's

1:10:30

even like a war, like battle

1:10:32

component. And we're about to go

1:10:34

out and in between show one

1:10:36

and two, the weirdest thing is

1:10:38

like my manager and my, you

1:10:40

know, you guys, everybody was like,

1:10:42

that was great. And in my

1:10:44

mind, I'm like, that was not

1:10:46

great. That is not what I

1:10:48

want. Obviously, what are you going

1:10:50

to say? You have to... But

1:10:52

also, it was better than you

1:10:54

think because you were in your

1:10:56

head. You weren't there. I wasn't

1:10:58

even there. We were there. I

1:11:00

wasn't even there. And my perspective

1:11:02

of it is that it's really

1:11:04

good to have. I told you,

1:11:06

I was like, if I was

1:11:08

directing this special, I would say,

1:11:10

you should do one that's so

1:11:12

clean, so like mid-energy. Yeah. So

1:11:14

it's not like extreme. Yes. And

1:11:16

we'll end up using that. And

1:11:18

like word perfect. Like let it

1:11:20

be the one that is the...

1:11:22

Playing the music. Let it be

1:11:24

the Bert. And then the second

1:11:26

show can be the Ernie. And

1:11:28

you can play knowing that you

1:11:30

have every bit. Yeah. But for

1:11:32

me, I was shocked that I

1:11:34

was like, weird, I've been doing

1:11:36

this 20 some years. This is

1:11:38

my sixth special, if you count

1:11:40

my album. And I'm like, okay,

1:11:42

shouldn't I be used to this?

1:11:44

Shouldn't I be able to go

1:11:47

out and do the first one?

1:11:49

Fine. And then I was like,

1:11:51

I think I have to put

1:11:53

myself in a hole, even if

1:11:55

that hole doesn't exist. That's right.

1:11:57

That's what I'm saying. It's the,

1:11:59

that's why I'm embarrassed to say,

1:12:01

you're fabricating. I'm fabricating it. There

1:12:03

was a key moment backstage where

1:12:05

I'm like, mad. Like I feel

1:12:07

mad that I didn't fucking tear

1:12:09

it up. And then I go,

1:12:11

get mad. Yeah. I heard, like

1:12:13

I didn't really hear a voice,

1:12:15

but it's all knowing anyway. But

1:12:17

I heard a voice that was

1:12:19

like, get mad. I want you

1:12:21

mad. And I want you nervous.

1:12:23

And I was like, oh, I

1:12:25

have the chills because I'm like.

1:12:27

Oh my God, that's what it

1:12:29

is. There was a higher knowing,

1:12:31

just in my body, in my

1:12:33

brain, in my whatever, that was

1:12:35

like, you need to be nervous

1:12:37

and you need to be mad,

1:12:39

because you need to go out

1:12:41

the first set you were asking,

1:12:43

and the second set I want

1:12:45

you to go out and I

1:12:47

want you to tell, and I

1:12:49

want you to drive the bus.

1:12:51

Like I don't want... That doesn't

1:12:53

mean a dick. I was still

1:12:55

receptive and porous and present, but

1:12:57

it was like... different. It was

1:12:59

like, I'm going out, first show

1:13:01

I went out and was like,

1:13:03

hey, thanks for coming, I'm going

1:13:05

to be out in a minute.

1:13:07

Second show, I was like, none

1:13:09

of that. I'm the fucking headliner,

1:13:11

I'm not doing that. I come

1:13:13

out and we start the show.

1:13:15

There's no throat clearing, we're going

1:13:17

to do it. Yeah. This is

1:13:19

the part I couldn't wait to

1:13:21

share on the pot because it

1:13:23

was really tender hug and I

1:13:25

really were in the side stage.

1:13:27

I wanted to just melt into

1:13:29

you like a baby. Like I

1:13:31

was like, ugh. And then the

1:13:33

voice went, no, mad and nervous.

1:13:35

And I broke away from you,

1:13:37

not in a rude way obviously,

1:13:39

but I was like, the hug

1:13:42

is for after the show. So

1:13:44

I broke away, stood up, straight,

1:13:46

claimed like a physical. kind of

1:13:48

power and taking up space but

1:13:50

like also a distance I was

1:13:52

like this is not you and

1:13:54

me watching Blossom on the couch

1:13:56

this is fucking go and I

1:13:58

never have moments I have very

1:14:00

few moments like this in my

1:14:02

life although more that you know

1:14:04

auditions and stuff but this was

1:14:06

a big one yeah was like

1:14:08

stood up and it felt like

1:14:10

a battle with full respect to

1:14:12

actual warriors that actually do real

1:14:14

things I'm not trying to claim

1:14:16

it's a metaphor it's it's a

1:14:18

way of understanding but I remember

1:14:20

it and this is so corny

1:14:22

and cheesy but there's a moment

1:14:24

in the movie 300 which for

1:14:26

some reason I'd recently rewatch where

1:14:28

Leonitis Drud Butler, he's going off

1:14:30

to war and he wants to

1:14:32

go and hug his wife or

1:14:34

kiss his wife, but he doesn't.

1:14:36

And it's so cheesy, I actually

1:14:38

don't think that movie aged very

1:14:40

well, because it's so earnest. And

1:14:42

the voice over is, goodbye my

1:14:44

love, is what he wants to

1:14:46

say. But Leonitis has no room

1:14:48

for tenderness like that. That's literally

1:14:50

what I was thinking. I was

1:14:52

like, I'm going off to fight

1:14:54

the Persians. Yeah. And then I

1:14:56

went off. So hot. I wish

1:14:58

I had that bod and that

1:15:00

cape and that shield. I'm just

1:15:02

kidding. But I went out, I'd

1:15:04

rather be fast bender, I'm obsessed.

1:15:06

But I go out full fast

1:15:08

bender energy. Within five seconds, exactly

1:15:10

the same as Minneapolis, me and

1:15:12

the audience merged, we clicked right

1:15:14

away and we were off and

1:15:16

it was perfect and I loved

1:15:18

it. It was about an hour

1:15:20

and 15. Walked off and we

1:15:22

actually got this on camera. There

1:15:24

you are on the side stage

1:15:26

and that that version of me

1:15:28

Swelled back up meaning the the

1:15:30

full me. Yeah, like the warrior

1:15:32

guy got off stage and again

1:15:34

I'm gonna say how embarrassed I

1:15:36

am that I'm like warrior. I'm

1:15:39

just saying like I went from

1:15:41

this like competitive mode to seeing

1:15:43

you and it was Deeply emotional

1:15:45

my shoulders go down I and

1:15:47

I saw the footage I kind

1:15:49

of look like I'm gonna cry

1:15:51

and I hug you and kiss

1:15:53

you and it's like one of

1:15:55

the best I had like a

1:15:57

little I had to go like

1:15:59

in Lila language you have to

1:16:01

go to school to leave your

1:16:03

fucking family. And there's teachers and

1:16:05

classes and you don't know what

1:16:07

it's gonna be. So my life

1:16:09

has gotten soft and I'm like,

1:16:11

no, I remember that you need

1:16:13

to fucking cake some dirt on

1:16:15

your hands and pick up a spear

1:16:17

and go out. And then after that

1:16:20

I was like, this is

1:16:22

incredible. And for four weeks

1:16:24

now, I've just been. Fucking

1:16:26

farting around the house. Yeah, and

1:16:28

it's been really well earned and

1:16:30

truly amazing So that was the

1:16:33

story the moment of breaking away

1:16:35

from you from the hug. I'll

1:16:37

never forget that because every impulse

1:16:39

was like Just stay in your

1:16:42

safe Love is arms. Yeah, that's

1:16:44

great. I'm so proud of you push

1:16:46

it away. It's the whole thing. Yeah, I

1:16:48

know I yeah, and I have few of these

1:16:50

but I'm just like That is

1:16:52

her like not take

1:16:55

me out of it

1:16:57

all heroism is like

1:16:59

I'm going to push

1:17:01

away The comfort comfort

1:17:03

yes in the interest

1:17:06

of the

1:17:08

shoulder-slumping cryface kiss

1:17:10

That was a million

1:17:13

times. Yeah, over a million

1:17:15

So much better than the

1:17:18

hug before. Well, you had to

1:17:20

leave the shire, and obviously I'm

1:17:22

the shire. You are the shire.

1:17:24

That is how I love everybody,

1:17:27

but especially you, is that I,

1:17:29

it's like I'll be your shire, baby.

1:17:31

You were the shire. And you have

1:17:34

to leave the shire to go

1:17:36

on, to go to Mordor. This

1:17:38

is it, Mr. Fro, but then

1:17:40

you get to come back. And

1:17:42

it's the furthest I'll ever be

1:17:45

from home. Let me carry the

1:17:47

load. Oh, it's so good. And

1:17:49

my frogfoot. He puts

1:17:52

his frogfoot on the

1:17:54

table. My karate chop. And

1:17:56

we're back. Well, I'm proud

1:17:58

of you. It was incredible.

1:18:00

It's so impressive to watch. And

1:18:03

that's the thing. It does go

1:18:05

back to the creativity thing where

1:18:07

it's like, you know, especially let's

1:18:09

bring it back to Jim Hinson.

1:18:11

Why not? Like there's something so

1:18:14

specific about like puppeteering is. you're

1:18:16

always in an uncomfortable position literally

1:18:18

like physically yeah and they talk

1:18:20

about putting him in a canister

1:18:22

in the swamp yeah to film

1:18:25

the and he doesn't hesitate so

1:18:27

many songs of all free books

1:18:29

And he like, yeah, he would

1:18:31

do it a thousand times, like

1:18:33

doesn't even think about it. You're

1:18:36

hearing me perfectly, because Jim Henson,

1:18:38

in moments like that, knows that

1:18:40

the golden ambrosia is on the

1:18:42

other side of sticking yourself in

1:18:44

a canister. And not even that.

1:18:47

I think, yes, that it's that.

1:18:49

And it's, you're in service of

1:18:51

something bigger than you. which is

1:18:53

the creative project. Whatever creative project

1:18:55

you are channeling at that moment,

1:18:58

it's something bigger than you. So

1:19:00

you do it because it's not

1:19:02

about you really. And you did

1:19:04

it, you did it real good.

1:19:06

I'm excited for you to see

1:19:09

it. It's so fun. I'm excited

1:19:11

for it too. And Ricky who

1:19:13

directed it is so incredible. And

1:19:15

to have gone from the last

1:19:17

one with you and Matt to

1:19:20

this one with you and Matt.

1:19:22

It feels really, really, really sweet.

1:19:24

Yeah. Well, check it out. Well,

1:19:26

when you can, you can't check

1:19:28

it out yet, but... Yeah, yeah,

1:19:31

yeah, yeah. No, I'm not worried

1:19:33

about selling it or any of

1:19:35

that. I know people... Oh, I

1:19:37

wasn't. People will see it. Yeah.

1:19:39

Yeah. All right, everybody. Yeah. We're

1:19:42

glad you were here. Yeah, we're

1:19:44

glad you were here. Yeah, we

1:19:46

missed you. It's been a couple

1:19:48

weeks. And our heart goes out.

1:19:50

to everyone in California, obviously. Yeah.

1:19:53

And be good and be excellent

1:19:55

to one another. Oh, you can't

1:19:57

say that that's. Brett's catchphrase. It

1:19:59

is? Yes. Brett Gold's scene? Every

1:20:01

episode. Be excellent to one another.

1:20:04

And now? And now? What is

1:20:06

it? It's like now more than

1:20:08

ever. Be excellent to one another.

1:20:10

Well, you know, it's from Bill

1:20:12

and Ted's. Well, I'm, I don't

1:20:15

know that no. You didn't know

1:20:17

that? I'm not like on a

1:20:19

quote level with Bill and Ted's.

1:20:21

It usually takes me a second

1:20:23

to figure out which one is

1:20:26

Bill and Ted's and which one

1:20:28

is Wayne's World. Oh wow. I

1:20:30

know I actually like that. I'm

1:20:32

a 90s bitch. I know it

1:20:34

was the 90s but I was

1:20:37

yeah. But you were growing up

1:20:39

in the 90s. Yeah. Now you

1:20:41

need excellent wild stallions. I know

1:20:43

shooing. That's Wayne's World. Okay. Be

1:20:45

excellent to one another is what

1:20:48

George Carlin says. It's like. How

1:20:50

you say goodbye in the future.

1:20:52

Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that makes

1:20:54

that really cool I always thought

1:20:56

that was like a very sweet

1:20:59

thing that Brett said but now

1:21:01

it's kind of cool too. Sweet

1:21:03

and cool. Oh good. I'm glad

1:21:05

I've Cemented that It was cemented

1:21:07

all right everybody Go ahead and

1:21:09

keep it crispy