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learning today. I've never felt like
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I've been counted out, dismissed, passed
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over, told I'd never be a
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golfer with just one arm. But
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the only thing that feels better
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driving them. I'm 14-year-old golfer Tommy
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Morsi, and I want to be
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remembered from my ability. As a
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of America supports everyone determined to
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find out what's possible. In golf,
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and in life, what would you
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like the power to do? Bank
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of America, Welcome
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to another episode
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of You Must
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Remember This, the
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podcast dedicated to
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exploring the secrets and
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or forgotten histories
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of Hollywood's first century.
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I'm your host, Karina
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Longworth, and this
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is another episode of
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our ongoing series, The
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Old Man Is Still
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Alive. Is
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Hollywood dead? No, I don't think so.
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Many years ago, when I first started
2:30
making pictures, being in a film business
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was a little bit disreputable. I hate
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violence in pictures, just as much as
2:36
I do sex and incest. Old stories
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I've forgotten mercifully. I've had such a
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good time in my life, it wouldn't
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bother me a bit if I died
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at any time. I think it's up
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to you. Younger fellas right now. There's
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one thing that I hate more than
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not being taken seriously is to be
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taken too seriously. They're being sued by
2:55
women's left. And I'm still alive to tell
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the tale. I
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teased this episode as being about
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one of Hollywood's greatest nepo
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babies. But John Houston
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is more accurately described as
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a spoke -in -the -wheel of a
3:16
Hollywood dynasty. His
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mother, Rhea, was a pioneering
3:20
sports journalist, and his father, Walter,
3:22
was a vaudeville actor. who
3:25
would become a movie star when his
3:27
son was in his 20s. There
3:29
was not a lot of money at
3:31
the time in either profession, but as a
3:33
young man, John had enough privilege to
3:35
pursue pleasure and adventure, always with the faith
3:37
that there would be enough to pay
3:40
for it down the line. By
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the time he started having
3:45
children in his mid -40s,
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including actor -filmmakers Danny and
3:49
Angelica Houston, John had
3:51
built up enough wealth of his
3:53
own that these kids grew
3:55
up in a literal castle surrounded
3:57
by servants and Monet paintings. Houston
4:01
dropped out of high school at 15 to
4:03
become a boxer, gave that up
4:06
to become a painter, acted
4:08
a bit, and then at 20
4:10
joined the Mexican cavalry. He
4:13
arrived in Hollywood in the early
4:15
1930s, where he was contracted
4:17
by Universal to write two films
4:19
for William Weiler, one of
4:21
which starred Walter Houston. Weiler
4:24
mentored John, who was soon writing
4:26
movies helmed by some of
4:28
the more interesting directors of the
4:31
era, including Robert Flory and
4:33
Anatole Litvak. Then,
4:35
Juarez, a script which
4:37
Houston had poured personal
4:39
experience into, became a
4:41
creative and commercial disappointment. As
4:45
Houston recalled later, I
4:47
knew that if I had
4:49
been the director instead of William
4:51
Deterly, this wouldn't have happened. To
4:54
prevent it happening again, he
4:56
had to direct himself. At
4:59
the time, the only established
5:01
screenwriter anyone could name
5:03
who transitioned into directing was
5:06
Preston Sturges. So
5:08
what Houston wanted to do, as
5:10
he recalled later, was highly
5:12
experimental as far as the
5:14
industry was concerned. Houston's
5:18
directorial debut, the pioneering
5:20
film noir, The Maltese Falcon,
5:23
was released the same year as
5:25
Citizen Kane. Both films competed
5:27
for the Best Picture Oscar, losing
5:29
to John Ford's How Green Was My
5:31
Valley, and it established Houston
5:33
as a fully -formed, directing giant
5:35
just as Kane did for
5:38
Wells. The two men
5:40
would cross paths and collaborate many
5:42
times throughout their careers. culminating
5:44
in Houston's performance in Wells'
5:46
The Other Side of the Wind
5:48
as an aged genius inspired
5:50
equally by himself, Wells,
5:52
and their mutual friend, Ernest
5:54
Hemingway. When Houston
5:57
asked Wells what the film was
5:59
about, Wells said, When
6:15
Houston was acting in Wind,
6:17
his directing career was in limbo.
6:20
He hadn't had an unqualified
6:22
success since the African
6:24
Queen in 1951. In
6:26
1970, Houston was
6:28
as appropriately cast as a
6:31
director in The Dustbin, as
6:33
Wells himself would have been. Given
6:36
Houston's status at this point,
6:38
it wasn't much of a surprise
6:40
that he didn't make Andrew
6:42
Serres' director's pantheon. In
6:44
his 1968 book, Saris
6:46
branded Houston as, less than
6:48
meets the eye, a
6:51
category defined in the American
6:53
cinema as, the directors
6:55
with reputations in
6:57
excess of inspirations. In
7:00
retrospect, it always seems
7:02
that the personal signatures to
7:04
their films were written with
7:06
invisible ink. This
7:08
is actually a fair description
7:10
of Houston in that the
7:13
mythology surrounding him as a
7:15
great ladies man and mans
7:17
man overshadows his individual films
7:19
and also in that he
7:21
himself was reticent to acknowledge
7:23
what he called a unifying
7:25
theme in his films. Although,
7:28
even by the time Saras was
7:30
writing, one could have
7:32
seen that the majority of movies
7:34
Houston had made Featured men who
7:36
are determined to quote the protagonist
7:38
of a movie he hadn't made
7:41
yet, called Wise Blood, to
7:43
do some things I ain't never
7:45
done before. In
7:47
his capsule on Houston, Saris
7:49
Yance at the filmmaker is
7:51
still coasting on his reputation as
7:53
a wronged individualist with an
7:55
alibi for every bad movie. Houston
7:58
has confused indifference with integrity for
8:00
such a long time. that he
8:02
is no longer even the competent
8:05
craftsman of the asphalt jungle, the
8:07
Maltese Falcon and the African Queen,
8:09
films that owe more to casting
8:12
coos than to directorial acumen. Saris
8:15
also implicates Houston
8:17
in Marilyn Monroe's death,
8:19
claiming that the
8:21
director, quote, nearly finished
8:23
her with the casual cruelty
8:25
of the misfits, as
8:28
though Monroe's husband didn't write
8:30
that movie. Finally, Sarah
8:32
suggested that Houston's career
8:34
was irredeemable after his
8:36
much -maligned Moby Dick. This
8:39
was his one gamble with greatness, and
8:41
he lost, Sarah's declared. And
8:44
like the KG poker player
8:46
he is, he has been playing
8:48
cool and corrupt ever since. As
8:52
we'll see, Sarah's eventually changed
8:54
his mind about Houston, as many
8:56
had by the time he
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died in 1987. just before
9:00
the release of his final film. I
9:04
decided to start my study of
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Houston's old man years in 1966,
9:09
the year he turned 60
9:11
and released The Bible in
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the Beginning. This
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is Houston's version of the big
9:17
hit after which things got
9:19
weird. In Houston's case, though
9:22
this was one of the highest grossing
9:24
movies of 1966, it was
9:26
so expensive to make that it couldn't
9:28
turn much of a profit. and
9:30
he didn't get fully, productively
9:32
weird for another six
9:35
years. Today,
9:37
in part one of our season
9:39
finale, we will trace Houston
9:42
from the Bible in 1966
9:44
to his on -screen triumph
9:46
as the embodiment of Old
9:48
Man Evil in Chinatown in
9:50
1974. We'll talk
9:52
about his flight from Hollywood,
9:54
which inaugurated this period. and why
9:56
he couldn't seem to catch
9:59
a critical break through much of
10:01
the 60s, resulting in a
10:03
handful of films that basically don't
10:05
exist, including his daughter Angelica's
10:07
acting debut. We'll
10:09
discuss the film Houston released in
10:11
the early 1970s, which suggested, just
10:14
as Maltese Falcon had 30
10:16
years earlier, that
10:18
he had an innate understanding
10:20
of how to address the
10:22
decade to come. and Houston's
10:24
acting work in perhaps the
10:26
definitive American film of that
10:28
decade. Then in part
10:30
two, which comes out on Thursday, we
10:33
will pick up Houston's story
10:35
in 1975 and follow him
10:38
to the grave and beyond.
10:41
Join us, won't you? For
10:44
the first half of the
10:46
season finale of The Old Man
10:48
is still alive. Houston's
10:54
reputation had sunk so precipitously by
10:56
the end of the 60s that
10:58
when the University of Washington did
11:00
a retrospective of his films in
11:02
1977, the program
11:04
noted, quote, one of
11:06
the most fascinating features of John
11:08
Houston's directorial career is that, having
11:11
begun about as close to the pinnacle
11:13
of success as one can get, he
11:16
came, within a decade or so,
11:18
to be almost universally
11:20
regarded as a has
11:22
been who, After all, maybe
11:25
never had been in the first
11:27
place. Less than a
11:29
decade. In 1949, eight
11:32
years after the Maltese Falcon, critic
11:34
Manny Farber described Houston
11:36
as Hollywood's fair -haired
11:38
boy and assessed that,
11:41
quote, in terms of
11:43
falling into the Hollywood mold,
11:45
Houston is a smooth blend
11:47
of iconic class and sheep.
11:50
Ironically, the year that Farber wrote
11:52
this, Houston broke with the
11:55
flock, so to speak, by going
11:57
freelance, earlier than many directors
11:59
older than he, after
12:01
falling out with the Warner Brothers
12:03
brass. After the asphalt
12:05
jungle in 1950, it
12:07
would be 30 years before he made
12:09
a movie on a Hollywood studio
12:11
lot. Soon thereafter,
12:13
he moved to Ireland, purchasing
12:16
a stunning estate called
12:18
Sinclairans. Although this
12:20
was the era of Blacklist
12:22
refugees, Houston's fight was
12:25
more complicated. He
12:27
later talked about how his
12:29
1947 film noir, Key Largo,
12:32
was a reaction to the immediate
12:34
post -war climate. The
12:36
Roosevelt administration had dethroned
12:38
the hoodlumsars and brought the
12:40
country around to a
12:43
kind of idealism that hadn't
12:45
existed during Prohibition and
12:47
Al Capone. And now,
12:49
two years after World
12:51
War II, the signs
12:53
of corruption were reappearing.
12:56
Then came the committee for the First
12:58
Amendment. At the very
13:00
beginning of this season, we re
13:03
-ran an episode detailing the trip
13:05
this committee made to Washington DC
13:07
to protest what would soon be
13:09
called the Blacklist. Some of
13:11
the members of the committee turned
13:13
against their values when they became
13:15
worried about the personal consequences. of
13:18
protesting the government's
13:20
authoritarian actions. One
13:22
of those turncoats was
13:24
Houston's frequent star Humphrey Bogart.
13:28
I was a little surprised
13:30
by his behavior. Almost
13:32
everybody else did it too. He was
13:34
just the first in that group. Eventually
13:37
the whole fucking country got
13:39
into line. It got
13:41
pretty scary, I hope to
13:43
tell ya. The magazines that today
13:45
take such a high moral
13:47
tone were among the worst offenders.
13:50
I'm talking about time and
13:52
Newsweek. You know, they're all
13:54
scared. Despicably
13:56
so. While
13:58
he didn't leave the country because
14:00
of all this, Houston said in
14:02
1980, it probably
14:05
had something to do with deciding
14:07
not to come back. When I
14:09
heard what McCarthy was doing in
14:11
the United States, when I would
14:13
come back on brief visits after
14:15
making films, and when I saw
14:17
how the whole country submitted to
14:20
this, that I found
14:22
very difficult and couldn't tolerate.
14:26
Houston returned to the U .S.
14:28
in the early 60s to
14:31
make two wildly disparate westerns.
14:34
The Unforgiven is a
14:36
misbegotten racial panic melodrama.
14:38
tinged with incest vibes, starring
14:41
Audrey Hepburn as
14:43
Ikea Wasquaw. Then
14:45
came the misfits, perhaps
14:48
the greatest of revisionist
14:50
westerns, in that it so
14:52
definitively eulogizes the myth
14:54
of masculine heroism vis -a -vis
14:56
horses. In
14:58
1963, Houston, who
15:01
claimed he had never thought about
15:03
acting on screen before, earned
15:05
an Oscar nomination for
15:07
his first credited role in
15:09
Otto Preminger's The Cardinal. That
15:12
year, Houston directed the star -studded
15:14
murder mystery The List of
15:16
Adrian Messenger, which got some
15:18
of the worst reviews of his career. Then
15:22
came The Night of the Iguana, a
15:24
Tennessee Williams melodrama set in
15:26
Mexico starring Richard Burton as
15:28
an alcoholic defrocked priest. caught
15:31
between a nymphet, played by
15:33
Lolita Starr, Sue Lyon, a
15:35
chaste adult woman played by Deborah
15:37
Carr, and a blousy but
15:39
good -hearted one played by Eva Gardner. It
15:42
had been, as Houston wrote,
15:45
a long time since
15:47
stars like Gardner and
15:49
Carr, both of whom had
15:51
started in the 1940s and hit their
15:53
peak of fame in the mid -50s, had
15:55
been hot commodities. The
15:58
words Houston chooses here
16:00
suggest that he, and by
16:02
extension Hollywood, were
16:04
trying to reclaim a paradise
16:06
lost. The studio system
16:08
had been obliterated by monopoly
16:11
busting, by television, by
16:13
Elvis and the Beatles, by
16:15
the civil rights movement and the
16:17
assassination of JFK, by the influence
16:19
of European films which could be freer
16:21
in terms of sexuality. The
16:24
public was starting to move into the future. We
16:26
can see this by looking at the
16:28
top -grossing films of 1964, which
16:31
included throwbacks, such as My Fair
16:33
Lady, but also two James
16:35
Bond films, two Pink Panther films,
16:37
and A Hard Day's Night. The
16:40
Night of the Iguana was a
16:42
Tennessee Williams melodrama about a drunk middle
16:44
-aged man's battle to save his own
16:46
soul. It may have
16:48
been one of the better
16:50
vehicles for Eva Gartner's not
16:52
inconsiderable talents, but it was
16:54
not breaking new ground for
16:56
1964. And
16:59
then, Houston got
17:01
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his most ambitious movie
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and his most notable
17:50
artistic failure. The
17:52
Bible is ambitious, even though it
17:55
only attempts to tackle a few
17:57
stories from Genesis, but
17:59
I would not call it an
18:01
artistic failure. It's highly
18:03
visually experimental, with gorgeous
18:05
special effects and underwater photography
18:07
to simulate the creation
18:09
of Earth. When
18:11
we are introduced to Adam,
18:14
the actor playing him, Michael
18:16
Parks, is nude and
18:18
posed like a Playboy -centered fold,
18:20
suggesting one body encompassing male
18:22
and female. In
18:24
its early sequences alone, the
18:27
Bible seems to anticipate 2001,
18:30
Avatar, and Terrence Malick.
18:33
Later, the production design of Sodom
18:35
and Gomorrah points toward the
18:37
films of Ken Russell. And,
18:39
like Russell's films, this
18:42
sequence tips over into camp, although
18:44
the design and costuming also seem like
18:46
a model for the club kids
18:48
of the 90s. In
18:50
explaining why he, not a religious
18:52
man, would accept an offer from
18:54
Dino De Laurentiis to make an epic
18:57
film of the Bible, Houston
18:59
knew better than to say,
19:01
the money, and instead
19:03
commented, We've all
19:05
believed we were gods at
19:07
one time or another. The
19:11
Bible allowed him to work out
19:13
his own god complex in multiple ways
19:15
beyond the usual for a film
19:17
director. Houston gave himself
19:19
a triple role. He would
19:21
appear onscreen as Noah and
19:23
on the soundtrack as both
19:25
the narrator and the voice
19:27
of God. 40
19:29
minutes into this movie, Houston
19:31
as Noah is addressed by Houston
19:33
as God and subsequently builds
19:35
an ark and loads a bunch
19:37
of animals on it. A
19:40
large portion of this
19:42
movie is essentially John Houston
19:44
talks to animals. And
19:46
to be honest, that part
19:48
rules. Houston's
19:51
quote unquote acting in
19:54
the Bible ranks with
19:56
Clint Eastwood's porch monologues
19:58
in Gran Torino. in
20:00
terms of directors filming themselves
20:02
performing feats of fourth wall
20:05
destroying lunacy. And
20:07
as if he hadn't put himself
20:09
in this movie enough, Houston
20:11
cast his former mistress, Zoe
20:13
Salas, as Hagar, the
20:15
handmaiden who bears Abraham's child in
20:17
place of his baron wife, Sarah,
20:20
played by Gardner. While
20:23
still married to Enrica
20:25
Soma, Angelica's mother, Houston
20:27
had impregnated Salas. who gave
20:29
birth to their son Danny
20:31
in 1962. For
20:33
what it's worth, Enrica also had a
20:36
baby with another man during her marriage to
20:38
Houston. Houston
20:40
supported Danny, although his
20:42
affair with Sally seems to have ended with
20:44
the pregnancy, making her
20:46
casting as a mother with
20:48
no romantic claim on her
20:51
baby's father to be appropriate,
20:53
to say the least. It
20:55
also adds another meaning to the
20:57
biblical phrase, heard in the film
20:59
uttered by Houston about the character
21:01
played by Houston, that
21:04
Noah was perfect in
21:06
his generations. As
21:09
far as weird old man movies
21:11
about biblical stuff made in the
21:13
mid -60s, the Bible is more
21:16
daring than the greatest story ever
21:18
told. Actress Evelyn Keyes,
21:20
Houston's third ex -wife,
21:22
once commented, that was
21:24
never anything kinky about John Houston. She
21:27
would know, I guess, but it
21:29
does seem like in dramatizing Genesis,
21:31
Houston was primarily interested in
21:34
weird sex vibes and the
21:36
sadism of a vengeful God. Again,
21:39
this was personal. Six
21:41
years later, John Milius asked Houston
21:43
what he thought the best part of
21:45
being a director was, and
21:47
he said, sagism,
21:50
and recommended the younger man read the
21:52
Marquis de Sade. But
21:55
where Stephen's movie improves
21:57
after intermission, Houston's falls
21:59
off in the second half, even
22:01
as it delves into Sodom and
22:03
Gomorrah. Much of this
22:05
has to do with George
22:07
C. Scott, who is extremely miscast
22:09
as Abraham, and comes
22:11
off like a soap actor doing
22:13
Shakespeare. While shooting, Scott
22:16
began an affair with costar
22:18
gardener that quickly became abusive.
22:21
Scott's a fool. Houston fumed
22:23
years later. I
22:25
wouldn't say a fool, he's a fine
22:27
actor, and that's all. He's not
22:30
a fine anything else that I know
22:32
of. He's a shit -heel, in fact. A
22:37
reporter who visited the set praised
22:39
Houston for looking 10 years younger
22:41
than he is. I
22:43
disagree. I think on
22:45
screen, Houston looks older than
22:47
60, significantly so. The
22:49
full two years that it took him
22:51
to make this movie perhaps showed on
22:53
his face. It didn't help
22:56
that he was directing himself. It
22:58
didn't help that after he
23:00
finished shooting his own scenes, he
23:02
became bored. One
23:04
observer noted that Houston kept his
23:06
cast and crew, which numbered almost
23:09
a thousand people, waiting while
23:11
he finished a crossword puzzle. But
23:14
biographer Myers suggests this was
23:16
Houston's way of buying time
23:18
to think, so that he
23:20
didn't waste valuable celluloid figuring
23:22
it out. Still,
23:24
as Houston himself joked, I
23:27
don't know how God
23:29
managed. I'm having a terrible
23:31
time. By
23:33
the end of this shoot, Houston
23:36
was diagnosed with emphysema, an
23:38
ailment that would stymie him for the rest
23:40
of his life. Here
23:42
is an excerpt from Angelica's memoir, a
23:45
story lately told, read
23:47
by the author. It was
23:49
when he was working on the Bible that
23:51
he had the first signs of emphysema and saw
23:53
a doctor. He was starting
23:55
to lose his oxygen and the doctor
23:57
said, you have to give up smoking.
23:59
It's enough now. So
24:01
dad went to Rome and found himself a
24:03
new doctor who said, yes, you have
24:05
to give up cigarettes, but you can have
24:08
a cigar once in a while. Dad
24:10
immediately interpreted this as an
24:13
invitation to chain smoke them. And
24:16
they were good cigars. But
24:18
nevertheless, I
24:20
like it better than any picture
24:22
I've had anything to do with.
24:24
Houston told the New York Times
24:26
of the Bible, the
24:28
LA Times called it,
24:31
magnificent, almost beyond cinematic belief.
24:33
And even Pauline Kale, whose negative
24:35
review of Night of the
24:38
Iguana impelled Houston to call her
24:40
a cunt, published a
24:42
mixed positive review determining the Bible
24:44
to be a triumph. Ranking
24:47
as the second biggest box
24:49
office hit of 1966, Bible
24:51
had been so expensive to make that
24:53
it still didn't turn a profit. Still,
24:56
all things considered, this
24:59
was Houston's greatest success of
25:01
the 60s. His next five
25:03
movies were all disappointments. The
25:05
only one of these, with any sort of
25:07
reputation today, is Reflections in
25:10
a Golden Eye. And that's only because
25:12
it stars Marlon Brando and Elizabeth
25:14
Taylor and is based on a Carson
25:16
McCulloch novel. Houston
25:18
believed that making bad movies was
25:20
part of life as a filmmaker.
25:23
What can you do? He said
25:26
in 1978, surgeons operate when
25:28
they know the patient is going to
25:30
die. But he
25:32
was on a particularly bad run
25:34
in the 1960s, to the
25:36
point where even when he released
25:38
a film that did have
25:40
good things going for it, critics
25:42
and audiences had trouble recognizing
25:44
it. After
25:47
the break, reclaiming the
25:49
Houston film that has been
25:51
most maligned, not least by
25:53
the Houston's themselves. Spring
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favorite spring finds. A
26:18
walk with love and death based
26:20
on a Dutch novel told the
26:22
story of two teenagers who fall
26:24
in love in a war zone
26:26
during the Middle Ages. Production
26:29
was set to take place in France
26:31
in the spring and summer of 1968.
26:34
For his male lead, Houston
26:36
selected Ossoff Diane, the
26:38
son of Israel's defense minister. For
26:41
his female lead, Houston was determined
26:43
to use this film to launch
26:45
the acting career of his 17
26:47
-year -old daughter, Angelica. Angelica
26:51
was cast under duress. She
26:53
wanted to be an actress. She wanted
26:55
to audition for Franco Zephyrelli's Romeo
26:57
and Juliet. But she didn't
26:59
want to make her acting debut for
27:01
her father for Fear It Would, as she
27:03
later wrote, to diminish my
27:06
power to self -invent on my own
27:08
terms. Before shooting,
27:10
she got a chic haircut at
27:12
Vidal Sassoon in emulation of hip
27:14
model Deborah Dixon. Not
27:16
exactly appropriate for the Middle Ages
27:18
period piece she was about to
27:20
start shooting. Her dad saw
27:22
this as the act of rebellion that it
27:24
was. Rebellion against
27:27
him. Angelica,
27:29
who was living in London with her
27:31
mother at the time, went to
27:33
Paris to do her costume fittings. It
27:36
was May 1968, and
27:38
the student uprisings began while she
27:40
was there. Though production
27:42
was scheduled to soon begin in
27:44
the countryside outside of the city,
27:46
Suddenly, France seemed to be on
27:48
the verge of another revolution. Shooting
27:51
was hastily moved to Vienna
27:53
and some surrounding areas, including
27:55
a portion of Czechoslovakia that
27:57
was soon thereafter invaded by
27:59
Russia. We can't
28:01
wait for the Russians to leave.
28:04
Houston said, announcing that production
28:06
would move to Italy. Just
28:09
as the Bible became an unlikely
28:12
movie about John Houston as God the
28:14
Father, Now he was
28:16
making a movie that reflected not
28:18
only the cultural divide of the
28:20
late 60s, but also the disconnect
28:22
between he and his own offspring. Angelica
28:25
would play Claudia, the
28:28
daughter of a nobleman who is
28:30
slaughtered by peasants during the 100 Years
28:32
War. Houston cast himself
28:34
in a one -scene part as
28:36
Claudia's uncle, who decides the
28:38
peasants are on the right side of
28:40
history and explains to his bereft
28:42
niece that he's giving up his rank
28:44
to join the fighters who killed
28:46
her father. Claudia
28:48
cannot fathom this, and she
28:50
flees the safety of her
28:52
uncle's castle to make love
28:54
rather than war. Houston
28:56
mused that the film dealt with
28:59
how youth has to find its way
29:01
through the establishment. The
29:03
time seems to be in the
29:05
middle of the 14th century, but it's
29:07
just as much now, today, this
29:10
moment. Young people of
29:12
today think that their problems
29:14
are unique, but the facts are
29:16
that there has always been
29:18
a generation gap. When
29:21
asked about casting his daughter,
29:24
Houston made an odd quip. She
29:27
can act, she does it all
29:29
the time. Houston was
29:31
known to be a hands -off director of
29:33
actors, the kind who thought that most of
29:35
the work was accomplished in the casting. But
29:38
when it came to Angelica, he
29:40
made an exception. Houston
29:42
was afraid of appearing to give
29:44
his daughter special treatment, so instead, he
29:47
constantly berated her, leaving
29:50
her frequently in tears. This
29:53
movie has vanished into
29:55
obscurity because, as biographer Myers
29:57
put it, for both
29:59
father and daughter, walk
30:01
was a personal and
30:03
professional disaster. Box
30:05
Office was nil, but the
30:07
reviews were not all negative. Saris
30:10
considered it and Butch Cassidy
30:12
in the same column, and allowed
30:15
that Houston's film was more
30:17
honest and vulnerable, but
30:19
it bored him while the
30:21
other film was dishonest,
30:23
but entertaining. Cale
30:26
wrote that it lacks
30:28
urgency, and still, I
30:30
rather like it. I
30:32
do too. Angelica has
30:34
zero range at this age, but
30:36
her father knows how to light
30:38
and film her so that occasionally
30:40
her face itself is haunting. And
30:43
when you think about the fact
30:45
that this movie was released in 1969,
30:47
when, for years, young people had
30:49
been sent halfway around the world to
30:52
Vietnam to kill for reasons they
30:54
didn't understand, and Americans
30:56
were just starting to wake up
30:58
to this war's horrors, Houston's
31:00
movie becomes a moving story
31:02
of kids caught up in a
31:04
violent uprising that they want
31:07
no part of. Certainly
31:09
Houston was thinking about Vietnam,
31:11
as became clear when Look
31:13
magazine profiled him a few
31:15
months later. Houston's
31:17
passion for horse races,
31:20
times when he wanders off to
31:22
read tombstones while a cruise sets
31:24
up, and other digressions suggest to
31:26
some that perhaps he no longer
31:28
cares about films. Gerald Astor
31:31
wrote, The question is
31:33
whether Houston can make the kind
31:35
of film that fits the late
31:37
1960s. Houston wasn't sure he
31:39
wanted to. My
31:41
kids kept telling me
31:43
to see 2001, he said.
31:46
I was disappointed. Too
31:49
much technology, not enough
31:51
character. The
31:53
film he was being interviewed about,
31:55
the Kremlin letter. would turn
31:57
out to be another failure, a
32:00
Cold War thriller that got made,
32:02
strictly because of the success of the
32:04
James Bond franchise. But
32:06
Houston spoke with urgency about
32:08
how his spy movie reflected
32:11
the era's geopolitics. Kremlin
32:13
was about the
32:15
tasteless immorality and senseless
32:17
violence in our
32:19
world today. What's
32:21
needed in Vietnam is
32:23
a moral statement. We
32:26
have no business there. If
32:28
we slip into peace there, we'll be
32:30
missing the whole point. Aster
32:33
didn't buy this. The
32:35
directors convinced that both the US
32:37
and Soviet agents in the film
32:39
behave so badly that the audience
32:42
must reject both sides, he
32:44
wrote. But during the recent
32:46
Green Beret case in Vietnam, most Americans
32:48
agree that you must play tough and
32:50
dirty to win. In the
32:52
Kremlin letter, after all, our spies are on the
32:54
side of America, the beautiful, even
32:56
if they do stoop to rape, torture,
32:58
and murder. Aster
33:00
is offering the equivalent
33:02
of MAGA talking points for
33:04
1970 here. The idea
33:06
that most Americans supported the
33:09
Green Berets committing war
33:11
crimes did not age well.
33:13
Aster then compared Houston's attitude
33:15
and his movie to a
33:17
few films that, quote, fit
33:20
the late 1960s. His
33:22
rather clumsy argument seems to be
33:24
that movies can't help but glorify
33:26
what they depict, and so Bonnie
33:28
and Clyde is read as being
33:30
about, quote, a slightly
33:32
vicious, fun couple done in by
33:34
some oafish squares. And
33:37
subsequently, viewers will watch the Kremlin
33:39
letter and, thanks to the production
33:41
design that Houston approved, covet
33:43
the luxury of a Soviet
33:45
bigwig's mansion instead of deploring the
33:47
violence perpetrated on both sides
33:50
of the Iron Curtain. There
33:52
may be a kernel of truth
33:54
to this argument, but with the
33:56
benefit of 55 years of hindsight, Aster
33:59
is the one who comes off
34:01
as the Ophish Square, thanks to his
34:03
attitude toward both Vietnam and the
34:05
New Hollywood. While
34:10
making this movie, Houston told
34:12
gossip columnist Sheila Graham that he
34:14
was through with acting. But
34:17
on set, one of Houston's
34:19
actors, Orson Welles, convinced his
34:21
director to take the biggest on
34:23
-screen role of his career. We
34:26
talked about the production of The Other Side
34:28
of the Wind in an episode of our
34:30
season on Polly Platt. If you
34:32
listened to that, it won't
34:34
be a surprise to you that John
34:36
Houston did not recognize this set.
34:38
as being anything like any he had
34:41
presided over. For one
34:43
thing, there was no real script, just
34:45
pages containing suggestions of
34:47
speeches, which Wells
34:49
wanted his actors to internalize
34:52
and then regurgitate in their
34:54
own words. Once Houston
34:56
got lost and called out, Orson,
34:59
what page are we on?
35:02
When the director responded, what the
35:04
hell difference does it make? Houston
35:06
fired back. I want to
35:08
know how drunk I'm supposed to
35:10
be. He was well
35:12
equipped to perform a wide range of
35:14
drunkenness, though he described his
35:16
own drinking as moderate, saying, I
35:19
get a little cock -eyed before dinner,
35:21
but always go to bed sober. His
35:24
son Tony remembered things
35:26
differently. Quote, every
35:29
single night he had eight vodka martinis.
35:32
It was sheer hell. As
35:35
chaotic as this production was,
35:38
Wells wouldn't come close to finishing
35:40
the movie in his own
35:42
lifetime or Houston's. Houston took
35:44
some inspiration from it. Peter
35:47
Viertel, who in 1953
35:49
wrote a novel about Houston,
35:51
White Hunter Blackheart, described
35:53
the shoot as, the
35:56
kind of perilous undertaking John
35:58
enjoyed, an adventure shared
36:00
by desperate men that finally came
36:02
to nothing. This
36:05
would be a fair summary of
36:07
several films Houston had already made. But
36:10
the experience of making Other Side
36:12
of the Wind seems to have encouraged
36:14
Houston to make his own gamble
36:16
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36:18
in so doing, he started
36:20
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help us stop it. Us? Why, you got
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37:06
you're gone. No one's coming to save the
37:08
day. They're time. I think we could be
37:10
the people that are coming. Has come. Being
37:13
the hero, there is no higher calling. Let's
37:15
do this. In
37:29
1970, Houston left Ireland,
37:31
his home of 18 years. In
37:34
interviews, he claimed that he never got
37:36
to spend as much time at St.
37:38
Clarence as he would have liked because
37:40
the property was so expensive to maintain
37:42
that he was constantly having to go
37:44
away to work. But also,
37:46
his emphysema forced a major
37:49
change in lifestyle. He
37:51
couldn't fox hunt anymore, so
37:53
his big Irish castle became a reminder
37:55
of a great love that he had been
37:57
forced to give up. And
37:59
then a great love, Olivia
38:02
de Havilland, encouraged him to give
38:04
it up and move to a
38:06
warmer climate for his health. In
38:08
1971, he put St. Clarence
38:11
on the market. Angelica
38:13
saw this as a major turning
38:15
point for her family and her father.
38:18
She wrote, as the Irish
38:20
say, dad gave up the ghost
38:22
when he let go of St. Clarence.
38:25
Houston left Ireland and made his
38:27
first American film in over
38:29
a decade. The
38:31
story of two small time boxers,
38:33
one a teenager just getting
38:35
started, the other a generation older
38:37
and essentially washed out on
38:39
booze. Houston initially saw Fat City
38:41
as a vehicle for Marlon
38:43
Brando, who was still Houston's favorite
38:45
living actor, even after the
38:47
failure of reflections in a golden
38:49
eye. But after
38:52
making the godfather and last
38:54
tango back -to -back, Brando
38:56
was focusing on activism. So
38:58
Houston cast the far lesser
39:00
known Stacey Keech as the older
39:02
man, and Jeff Bridges, a
39:05
breakout star after Last Picture
39:07
Show, as the kid. This
39:09
gave Fat City a lower profile
39:11
than any Marlon Brando movie, but
39:14
also lower expectations. And
39:17
working with non -stars, Houston
39:20
was able to give direction along the
39:22
lines of, all right, boys,
39:24
now we're just going to have two
39:26
minutes of boxing. Just go out there and
39:28
fight. In one
39:30
scene, the bridge's character loses
39:32
a fight he's expected to win. According
39:35
to the actor, none
39:37
of this was faked, quote, Real
39:39
blood was coming out. Fat
39:43
City is one of my favorite
39:45
Houston films and definitely my pick
39:47
for his best of the 70s.
39:49
A decade in which he seemed
39:52
to rediscover his passion and genius
39:54
for making movies about male rivalries.
39:57
We'll talk about two other films in
39:59
this vein in part two. For
40:01
me, the magic of Fat City
40:03
is how it sets two men
40:05
who are essentially fighting for the
40:07
same dream. on completely opposite paths.
40:10
And when they do cross, their relationship
40:12
is one of mutual respect,
40:14
even as the other is making
40:16
choices that they themselves would
40:18
never make. Fat City
40:20
also has two juicy roles
40:23
for actresses, an anomaly for Houston
40:25
at this point in his
40:27
career. Candy Clark makes
40:29
her film debut as Bridges' girlfriend. And
40:32
Susan Terrell, who we
40:34
last saw in Henry Hathaway's
40:36
shootout, was nominated for
40:38
an Oscar for playing the
40:40
barfly who Keatsch's character
40:42
becomes codependently involved with. The
40:45
last scene was shot in a real diner
40:47
in the middle of the night. The call
40:49
time for the actors was 2 a .m. When
40:52
he arrived, Bridges recalled, John
40:55
was there with his oxygen tank.
40:57
He looked like he was asleep or
40:59
dead. Nobody had the balls to
41:01
go to him and say, we're ready, Mr. Houston. All
41:04
of a sudden, his eyes bolted open
41:06
and he said, I've got
41:08
it. What Houston suddenly
41:10
got was the notion that Keech
41:12
would turn to look behind him
41:14
and realize that everyone else had
41:17
suddenly frozen, that time had
41:19
stopped and he was the only one who
41:21
could see it. It was
41:23
a fitting way to end a picture
41:25
that seemed to take place in a
41:27
70s in which Despite its Chris Christofferson
41:29
theme song, the Great Depression
41:31
had never ended. The
41:34
production, too, was a meeting of past
41:36
and present. Margaret Booth,
41:38
an MGM stalwart who had worked
41:40
with Houston on his disastrous red
41:43
badge of courage, was the
41:45
editor. The production designer
41:47
was Dick Silbert, who bridged
41:49
the generation gap between Elia
41:51
Kazan and Mike Nichols, and
41:53
would soon replace Robert Evans
41:55
as head of Paramount. Silbert
41:58
brought his second wife, writer
42:00
Susanna Moore, with him
42:02
to the Stockton location. In
42:04
her book Misaluminum, she recalled that
42:07
Houston did not seem to be
42:09
able to command much at this
42:11
point, other than a quasi -consensual
42:13
daily trist with Terrell. She
42:15
visited Houston above the river each
42:17
afternoon to give him a blowjob.
42:20
It's not as bad as you
42:22
think, she said. Except for his
42:24
fucking oxygen tank, which bangs against
42:26
my head. Here, feel the lumps. There
42:29
were other complaints about Houston as
42:31
he was old and tired. Although
42:34
he appeared each day on the set, it
42:37
was Duke and Conrad Hall
42:39
who directed the movie, making the
42:41
necessary decisions as to lighting
42:43
and editing and even the performances.
42:47
Moore's allegations do not appear in
42:49
other accounts of this production. But
42:52
that doesn't mean that there's no truth to them. Houston
42:55
was famous for his sexual
42:57
appetite and was also known to
42:59
defer to Kraft's people on
43:01
set. As producer
43:03
Michael Fitzgerald put it, he
43:05
chose his collaborators and then
43:07
trusted them. He
43:09
may have had a God
43:12
complex, but he was the opposite
43:14
of a Preminger -esque dictatorial director.
43:17
Critics raved for a fat city like they
43:20
hadn't for a Houston film in years. Roger
43:23
Ebert gave it four stars and called
43:25
it one of Houston's best films. Vincent
43:27
Canby called it one of the
43:29
three or four most beautifully acted
43:32
films seen so far this year.
43:34
Life Magazine reported that fat
43:37
city, quote, was widely
43:39
applauded in Cann, impressed such viewers
43:41
as Muhammad Ali. and had the
43:43
critics wondering whether Houston might be
43:45
back on the road to making
43:47
important movies, like the Maltese Falcon. He
43:50
was definitely on the road to making a
43:52
film that he had been thinking about almost
43:55
as far back as Falcon, but
43:57
we'll get to that in part two. In
44:00
August 1972, Houston
44:02
married for the last time.
44:04
In an interview that
44:06
year, he described Cecile, nicknamed
44:08
Cece, as... A horse
44:10
woman, young, 35, I think that's
44:12
how old she is. I also think
44:14
she has read a book. I'm
44:16
not absolutely certain about it. Black
44:19
beauty or something. Long
44:22
after this marriage ended, Houston
44:24
said it happened because of alcohol. Because
44:26
he got drunk at a dinner party
44:28
hosted by Jennifer Jones and announced that
44:30
he and CeCe were engaged. And then
44:32
he couldn't go back on it when
44:35
he was sober. According
44:37
to William Weiler's wife, Tally, who
44:39
was also at this party, quote,
44:42
he was so drunk that he fell
44:44
forward and his face landed in his
44:46
soup. They lifted him up and he
44:48
said, I'm engaged to be married. He
44:51
already knew it was a terrible
44:53
idea, and he was sorry ever
44:55
afterward. Houston
44:58
moved into Sisi's house in
45:00
the Palisades, and soon Angelica
45:02
did too. Her
45:04
mother, Enrica, had died in a
45:06
car crash in 1969, and
45:09
Angelica soon thereafter became a top
45:11
model and the girlfriend of
45:13
photographer Bob Richardson, father
45:15
of Terry. Bob
45:17
was schizophrenic and abusive,
45:19
and Angelica moved to LA
45:21
to escape him. Days
45:23
after her arrival, Angelica
45:25
fell in love with Jack
45:28
Nicholson, beginning an on -again -off -again
45:30
romance that would last for 17
45:32
years. Angelica's
45:34
relationship with Jack led directly
45:36
to her father's most
45:38
iconic on -screen role in
45:40
Chinatown. Sure,
45:42
Houston was reminiscent of screenwriter
45:44
Robert Towns' dad, a
45:46
bigger -than -life man who had made
45:48
his money subdividing the West Valley. And
45:51
in making this neo -noir,
45:53
director Roman Polanski was inspired
45:55
by Houston's Maltese Falcon. But
45:58
once Polanski had the idea,
46:01
Nicholson sealed the casting deal.
46:04
Nicholson's embrace by the Houston
46:06
family felt fated. Angelica talked
46:09
about falling in love with Jack
46:11
four years before they even met,
46:13
when she saw him on screen an
46:15
easy writer. Likewise,
46:18
Angelica's father had been Jack's personal
46:20
icon before he ever knew
46:22
he had a beautiful, glamorous daughter.
46:25
I consciously knew for a certain
46:27
period with John that the
46:29
greatest guy alive was a friend
46:31
of mine, Nicholson said. But
46:34
five years after her screen debut,
46:37
Angelica, not yet a full -time
46:39
actress, was still wary
46:41
of her father. The
46:43
fact that her boyfriend was now
46:45
playing the lover of her father's
46:47
character's daughter, and that her
46:49
father was playing an incestuous
46:51
rapist, didn't help. Angelica
46:53
visited the Chinatown set a
46:55
couple of times and recalled that
46:58
she felt that her dad
47:00
was, quote, practicing
47:02
on me by being
47:04
abusive, verbally, not sexually.
47:07
At one point, all three were
47:09
having lunch together. As Angelica
47:11
recalled in her second memoir, Watch
47:14
Me, I
47:23
hear you were sleeping with my daughter.
47:26
Long pause. Mr.
47:28
Gitz. I went bright
47:30
red and then I realized
47:32
they were rehearsing. Everyone burst out
47:34
laughing. Houston's
47:37
living legend ways were trying
47:39
for Polanski. Sometimes he'd
47:41
show up on set, drunk from the Stoly
47:43
he kept in his trailer. Other
47:46
times he'd hold court as a rock
47:48
and tour, distracting the other actors and
47:50
crew members. At one
47:52
point, Polanski felt the need to
47:54
give the following piece of direction,
47:56
addressed to the whole cast, but
47:58
intended for an audience of one. Actors,
48:01
you must prepare before
48:03
the scene. I want you
48:05
not wandering off telling stupid anecdotes. I
48:07
don't tell you this again. Houston
48:11
was very unhappy at the
48:13
time, Angelica recalled. Perhaps
48:15
this fed the performance. Houston's
48:17
Noah Cross. is perhaps
48:20
the most chilling embodiment of
48:22
moral rot that I've ever
48:24
seen on film. Though
48:27
a box office success, Chinatown
48:29
won only one of the 11
48:31
Oscars it was nominated for. The
48:34
Towering Inferno, the year's
48:36
biggest hit, won three. By
48:39
1974, any vestiges of
48:41
the studio system that Houston had
48:43
come up in were gone. But
48:45
the system had reconstituted itself
48:48
in a new form. The
48:50
generation known as the movie Bratz
48:52
were still making hits like American
48:54
Graffiti and The Godfather Part II.
48:56
But the new trend was
48:58
big budget mega productions like
49:00
Inferno. You can probably
49:03
guess which side of the fence
49:05
Houston felt more affinity for. But
49:07
in case there was any doubt, he
49:09
told an interviewer, Earthquake.
49:12
towering inferno, et cetera, I
49:14
haven't seen them. And
49:16
I'm not drawn to them because they
49:19
seem to contain a formula. What
49:21
I hear about them doesn't sufficiently
49:23
attract me. I'd rather read a
49:25
book. To
49:28
prefer personal enrichment over
49:30
financial enrichment was a kind
49:32
of growth for Houston. This
49:35
was a man who had kept
49:37
working compulsively because, as he once
49:39
quipped, I thought it was better
49:41
to do a picture than rob
49:44
a bank." He acknowledged that he
49:46
made the Macintosh Man in 1973
49:48
for the money, but
49:50
justified it by saying, simply
49:52
because you're doing it for the money
49:54
doesn't mean that you aren't making every effort
49:56
to make it a better picture. Now,
49:59
he felt called to do something
50:01
meaningful. Something, he
50:04
said, we could hold our
50:06
heads up about afterward. We
50:09
will talk more about that
50:11
something in the finale of our
50:13
finale, coming in two
50:15
days. Join us then,
50:17
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50:24
for listening to You Must Remember
50:27
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50:29
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50:31
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