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Welcome to You're Not Crazy , a
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podcast for the adult children of
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parents with borderline and narcissistic
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personality disorders . I'm
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your host , tori Wixel , a
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therapist and coach with over a decade
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of experience in the mental health field . Now
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let's jump in . Hi
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and welcome back to the podcast . This week
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we have a really
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good episode , if I can toot
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my own horn ahead . But before
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we dive into the heart of our episode
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, let's talk about a few housekeeping
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things . I just
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posted a new
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mini course . It's called Before
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Boundaries . It's available in the Confident
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Boundaries online community and
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it's available if you are not
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a part of the community . You can purchase the
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mini course alone for $29
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. Just head over to confidentboundariescom
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. I'll throw that in the show
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notes as well . This
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mini course is what you
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need to know about having a parent with BPD
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and MPD before you're ready to set
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boundaries . It's really easy
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. It's a quick . That's
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why I call it a mini course . There's a 15
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minute video and a really short
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workbook with a couple of worksheets
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and a journal prompt in there to
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help you really digest what it means
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to have a parent with BPD or MPD
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and to break down
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what aspects of your own relationship
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with your BPD or MPD parent or
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your parent who has BPD or MPD
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traits , what aspects
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of those personality disorders
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come into play in your
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specific situation and your
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specific relationship . So head
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on over to confidentboundariescom . You
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can sign up for the community and
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get access to it in the on-demand library
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or , like I said , you can
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purchase it directly for $29
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, but it is a great
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, really short , really quick
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resource in
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order to make sure you fully
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grasp the complexities
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of both of these disorders and how they
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impact boundary setting and how they impact boundary
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setting . So that
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is something really exciting . What
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else has been happening ? This week , I
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released a bonus episode of the You're Not Crazy podcast where I talked about family
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rules and family systems . So
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if that's something that interests
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you , definitely check
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it out . My
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free boundaries workshop is officially up and running on demand . If
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you haven't already taken it , I definitely
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encourage you to check it out . It is
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less than an hour . I think it's about 45
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or 50 minutes long and in
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it I go through literally how
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to set boundaries with a parent with BPD
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or MPD . Everything that I'm talking about
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today you can find at confidentfoundriescom
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, but I'll throw the unique
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links to everything in the show notes
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as well . Let's dive into
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today's episode . Today , I decided
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to talk about what
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it means when therapists
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say we should all sit
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with our emotions . Growing
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up in a dysfunctional family , we didn't
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talk about emotional intelligence
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much . I imagine
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your family doesn't either or if they
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do that , it's very skewed
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and misrepresented
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. Something that people with
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narcissistic personality
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disorder love to do is to
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take therapy words
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and concepts and
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completely misuse them in
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an effort to manipulate other people . So
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it's quite possible that emotional
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intelligence was talked about quite often
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as you were growing up , but just in a very
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inaccurate and harmful way
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. With
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that said , I don't think any of us
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grew up being taught how
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to sit with our emotions , and I know , as
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an adult , part of my own
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healing journey has been how to
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identify my own emotions
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and process
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them and regulate
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them and learn to tolerate
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them in a way that
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is helpful and healthy . And
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I know
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for so long I would hear people
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say okay , you should
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just sit with your emotions or you need to sit with
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your emotions , and my
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immediate thought was what the fuck does
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that mean ? What does that mean
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? Sit with your emotions ? Okay
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, I am unhappy . I
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am really stressed out . I am overwhelmed
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. I am sitting here like what
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is supposed to happen . What is the purpose of
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that ? I'm just going crazy . I
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don't understand what this means and how
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this is supposed to help at all
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, and I
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think it's a really complicated idea
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. If you didn't grow
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up with emotional
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regulation , distress
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, tolerance being modeled for you , I think
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, if you didn't see your parents
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working through their own
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emotions in a healthy way , the
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idea of sitting with your emotions and
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having it be helpful sounds
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insane . It sounds
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completely crazy . So
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what does it actually mean when therapists
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say we should sit with our
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emotions , you should sit with your emotions
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. What does that mean ? I think it means
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a couple of things . It means one
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being able to identify
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what you're feeling , your
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different range of emotions . Being
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able to say
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not just I'm
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feeling good or I'm feeling bad , or I'm feeling okay
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but I'm feeling happy , I'm feeling bad , or I'm feeling okay but I'm feeling
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happy , I'm feeling hopeful , I'm feeling
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apprehensive , I'm feeling content
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, I'm feeling cautious , I'm
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feeling nervous . I'm feeling all
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of these different things that we could be feeling
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and then recognizing
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in our bodies . How does
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that physically feel for me ? Where
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do I hold those emotions ? Am
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I feeling a bit nauseous
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? Am I feeling hot
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and sweaty and clammy
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. Am I feeling agitated
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? Am I feeling fidgety
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? Am I feeling prickly
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? Am I feeling tense ? What
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am I feeling in my body when I'm
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experiencing different emotions
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? And
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after noticing those things
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, how can
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I allow my body , how
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can I help my body move through
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that emotion and move
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through this , instead of trying
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to shove it away or push
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it away or make it go away ? That
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really , at least when I'm
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talking about sitting with your emotions
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, that's the experience , that's the
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process that I'm talking about . It's the
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ability to identify
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what it is that I'm feeling , to
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recognize how I
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hold that in my body and
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to help myself move through
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that emotion . And so
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I want to break down those
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three things today , because
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my guess
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is that a lot
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of the listeners of this podcast would
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also benefit from learning how to
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sit with their emotions . I mean , everyone
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would benefit from learning how
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to sit with their emotions if they don't know how
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to already . But my guess is , since
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we have this commonality of dysfunctional
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families amongst myself and
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all of our podcast listeners , my
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guess is many of you are probably
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struggling with this too . So
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, as far as emotion identification
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goes , I think that
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I recently talked about this on the main podcast
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, but forgive me if I
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did not . I'm going to repeat
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it just in case I talked about this in
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the community or on the bonus podcast
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episode , because I want to make sure that everyone's
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on the same page . When we're talking
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about identifying our emotions
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, there are a few things
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that can be really helpful to figuring
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out what it is that you're feeling
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, because it's so easy
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to be very black and white about I'm feeling
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good , I'm feeling bad , I'm feeling good , I'm feeling bad , I'm
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feeling blah , I'm feeling okay , I'm feeling
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whatever . Those aren't emotions
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. Those aren't very helpful things
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to identify . They don't give us a lot
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of information on how
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we can help ourselves or why
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we might be feeling a certain way . So
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when you are working on getting
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more in touch with your emotions
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, a really helpful thing to do is to set
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a timer to go off a couple of times a day
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, maybe three to four and
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just randomly , and do that for an entire
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week . And every time that
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timer goes off , I want
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you to ask yourself what emotions
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am I experiencing right now ? What
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emotions are coming up for me ? Google
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emotion identification chart
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If you don't know
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if all you can think is good
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or bad , or happy or sad
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, or if you can only think
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of very basic emotions
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. Google emotion identification chart
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A chart will come up . There will be lots
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of images . Click on any of them
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, lots of different emoji faces
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and that will give you an array
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of emotion words to choose from . This
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is so important because it's
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really important to be able to identify
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what you're feeling in order
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to help yourself learn how to
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manage your stress better
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, how to help yourself when you're feeling flooded
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. It's so important
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to get more in touch with what it feels
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like to experience different emotions
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for you . It also is really
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helpful when you're thinking about setting
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boundaries , because it's really important
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to know how the
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status quo is really affecting
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you emotionally and
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if all you know is good or bad , that
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doesn't give you a lot of information to
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say what boundaries might be helpful
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for me to set for my own mental
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health and my own emotional well-being
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. So , going
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back , we are identifying
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our emotions , okay , so
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we've identified them right or we're working
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on it . Number two is recognizing
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where those emotions come
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up for us , how we hold them in our bodies
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. This is really important , I
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know for me myself . I
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am super great at analyzing
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everything from an intellectual
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level . I am a deep thinker
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, I've got lots of thoughts , I
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can think through things very quickly
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, I'm a very thoughtful person
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, I am constantly thinking , my
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mind is constantly going and
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I'm very good at that . What I'm not good at
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is experiencing
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my emotions and sitting with them
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, and that's because
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of many reasons . One
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I also have OCD , as I've talked about
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on this podcast , so that definitely
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makes it more challenging for me
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to sit with my emotions . Number
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two I grew up in a family
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where I was consistently
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and repeatedly told that my emotions
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were wrong , that I was wrong
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, that they were bad , that they were an inconvenience
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, that they were intentionally inconvenient
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or just plain wrong
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, and that
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creates this disconnect
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between what our emotions are
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and how we're holding those in our body . If
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I am told throughout childhood
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and growing up that what
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I believe to be sadness is
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wrong or it's not appropriate
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for a given occasion , then
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my brain's going to try to make sense of that and
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figure out . Well then I
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guess when I'm feeling this way , I
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shouldn't be , or I'm not
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, or whatever the
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compensating strategy
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is , it's going to come up with a new rule
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that makes sense for
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my given situation . So
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, as an adult who's learning how
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to sit with your own emotions , it's
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really important to re-familiarize
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yourself with how
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different emotions feel for you in your body , how
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you carry them , how you hold them
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, how they impact you physically , and
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so a really great way to do this
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is when you're doing those
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emotion check-ins throughout the day , doing
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a quick body scan and starting
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at your forehead and
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working all the way down to
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your fingertips and your toes
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and just going body
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part by body part how's my forehead
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feeling , how's my jaw
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feeling , how's my tongue feeling
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, how's my neck feeling , my shoulders
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, arms , legs , stomach
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, chest , knees
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Well , can you feel your knees ? I don't
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know . I think you get my point though my calves
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, my feet , my toes , my fingers
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, really tapping into
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all of these different parts of your
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body and really just taking
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note of how you're feeling there and
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really trying to
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recognize how you
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yourself , as a person , experiences
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the emotions that are coming up for you right
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then . And then the
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third part that I talked about helping
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your body , helping yourself , move
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through these emotions . A couple
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of things are really helpful with this One
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. It's super important to remember
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that emotions themselves
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are not a problem . Growing
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up , your parents'
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emotions were not the problem . It
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was the way that they behaved
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and reacted in response to those
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emotions that was problematic
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. It is still the way
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that they respond to and
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react to their emotions that either
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is or is not problematic . It
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is not the emotions themselves that
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are dangerous . It is oftentimes
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the way people process
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or avoid their emotions that are
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harmful . So
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it's really reminding yourself
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that it is not bad
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or dangerous for you to experience
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distressing emotions , whether that's
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anger , rage , sadness
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, guilt , all of these things . These
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are all parts of being human and
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while they can be really distressing
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emotions to feel , they're
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not dangerous to feel . Also
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, it's reminding yourself
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that no emotion
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can last for forever . I
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could not be hysterically
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upset right now
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and five
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years from now be that
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same level of hysterically
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upset . It's just not possible , it's
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not humanly possible , to maintain
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that intensity of that emotion
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for years
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. It's just not . And so I
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think really reminding
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yourself that emotions
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do come and go in waves , even
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though when you're dealing
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with a tremendous amount
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of stress and trauma , it feels
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like it lasts forever On
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a minute-to-minute level
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. That's not true , and
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a lot of sitting
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with our emotions is really teaching
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ourselves how emotions work
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and what is
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a myth that we believe about
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emotions and what is the reality ? Is a myth that
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we believe about emotions
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and what is the reality ? Also
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, really , going into that self-compassion of if I'm feeling really panicky
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right now or really agitated , can I get up and go grab a drink
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of water , can I take
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a few deep breaths , can I go outside
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, can I help my body
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ground and calm
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and recognize
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that I'm safe right now
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, even though emotionally I don't
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feel like I am ? It's
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really showing yourself that
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compassion and kindness and
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taking the time and exerting
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the energy into helping
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yourself feel more grounded
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and capable of sitting
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with and moving through that emotion . So
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, in a nutshell , sitting
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with your emotions is
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something that takes
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practice and effort , but
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it is completely doable
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. All
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you have to do , all you have
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to do . That makes it sound
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so easy . It's not , but what
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to do is to identify
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your emotions , check in with
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your body , notice where you're feeling them
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and then offer yourself compassion
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and help yourself
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move through them . With
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that said , that is our episode for today
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. Again , you can find me
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over at the Confident Boundaries online community
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, over at Instagram , at Tori
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at Confident Boundaries , and
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make sure to check out the show notes for links
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to everything I mentioned at the top
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of the show . Thanks so much , you guys
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. I'll see you next week . Thanks
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so much for joining me for another episode
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of You're Not Crazy . If you like the podcast
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, please leave a review and rate us five
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stars . It helps so much and
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make sure to check the show notes for links
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to bonus podcast episodes and other
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ways I can help . See you soon .
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