I’m excited to welcome Oliver Burkeman back to the show to discuss his new book, Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts. You can find his previous conversation on the show here. Oliver is a journalist and author best known for 4,000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals. His latest book offers a practical, reflective guide to shifting our mindset about time, control, and productivity through daily meditations.In this conversation, we cover:

The Through Line from 4,000 Weeks: How Meditations for Mortals builds on Oliver’s previous work by focusing on action and the gap between knowing and doing.

The Illusion of Control vs. Agency: Why we often seek control over our lives and how accepting our limitations can actually increase our capacity for meaningful action.

Breaking Free from Productivity Debt: How many of us start each day feeling behind and what we can do to change that mindset.

Imperfectionism and Action-Taking: How embracing imperfection can help us get more done and reduce procrastination.

Kayaks vs. Super Yachts: A powerful metaphor for navigating life with flexibility rather than expecting smooth, predictable sailing.

The Paradox of Productivity Techniques: Why strategies like the Pomodoro Technique can be helpful—when used as tools rather than salvation from feeling overwhelmed.

The Value of Small Decisions and Next Steps: How making peace with uncertainty and taking the next available action can lead to lasting change.

Oliver’s insights will challenge the way you think about productivity, time management, and how to make space for what truly matters.Learn more about Oliver and his work at oliverburkeman.com, and find Meditations for Mortals wherever books are sold.Connect with Erik:

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