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3:08

March 8th, 1987, a routine

3:10

Sunday morning traffic stop on

3:12

a quiet stretch of Route

3:14

640 between Yoho Lake and

3:16

Hanwell to the southwest of

3:19

Fredericton, New Brunswick turned into

3:21

a tragedy that shocked the

3:23

nation. Constable Emmanuel Manio Coyne,

3:25

a 31-year-old highway patrol officer,

3:27

husband and father of two

3:29

young children, was shot and

3:31

killed in the line of

3:33

duty. His murderer Anthony Philip

3:35

Romeo, an American fugitive who

3:37

was wanted for another killing

3:39

in New York, had been

3:41

fleeing authorities when a coin

3:43

pulled him over for speeding.

3:45

Romeo shot a coin in

3:47

the head as he wrote

3:49

up a ticket, leaving him

3:51

to die in his cruiser

3:53

before fleeing back to the

3:55

United States. Romeo was later

3:57

captured, claiming a coin was

3:59

a monster who'd been killing

4:01

young men like him. Constable

4:03

a coin was the third

4:05

Canadian... police officer killed on

4:07

duty in 1987 and was

4:09

the first and only member

4:11

of the New Brunswick Highway

4:13

Patrol ever to die while

4:15

serving. This is Dark Poutine

4:17

episode 351, killed on the

4:19

job, Constable Emmanuel Okoyne. Joseph

4:21

Emmanuel Okoyne was born on

4:23

November 14th, 1955, at Moncarmel

4:25

near Somerset in Canada's smallest

4:27

province, Prince Edward Island. Emmanuel

4:29

was one of seven children

4:31

and those who knew him

4:33

well called him Manny. When

4:35

Manny was just two years

4:37

old his dad, a fisherman,

4:39

and veteran of World War

4:41

II was severely injured in

4:43

a gasoline explosion. This left

4:45

him on life support clinging

4:47

to life for ten years

4:49

before he passed away. Manny

4:51

was too young to remember

4:53

having a meaningful relationship with

4:55

his dad. Manny's mom Arlene

4:57

was left alone with her

4:59

gaggle of kids. Even with

5:01

a small amount of compensation

5:03

from her husband's military service,

5:05

Arlene struggled to make ends

5:07

meet. Despite not having his

5:09

father's influence, Manny grew into

5:11

a conscientious, community-minded, hardworking, and

5:13

kind-hearted person. Sounds like his

5:15

mom did a good job.

5:17

It does. It sounds like

5:19

his mom and whoever else

5:21

in the family was there

5:23

to help her. A neighbor

5:25

is whoever, right? Yep. This

5:27

is how things go in

5:29

the Maritimes. Manny grew up,

5:32

fell in love with, and

5:34

married his wife Esther, and

5:36

they started having a family.

5:38

First, a daughter Valerie, followed

5:40

two years later by a

5:42

son, Jeremy. Manny had been

5:44

driving a taxi in Somerset

5:46

for a few years when

5:48

he told his mother he

5:50

intended to pursue a career

5:52

as a police officer. He

5:54

was off to the Atlantic

5:56

Police Academy, APA, at Holland

5:58

College. Established in 1971, The

6:00

APA has long been a

6:02

cornerstone in training public safety

6:04

professionals in Canada. Since its

6:06

inception, the Academy has prepared

6:08

thousands of officers for careers

6:10

in law and other public

6:12

safety roles with estimates suggesting

6:14

that over 5,000 police officers

6:16

have completed training there. The

6:18

APA has also offered in-service

6:20

training, enabling current professionals to

6:22

advance their skills and stay

6:24

updated on evolving practices. Located

6:26

in Slemon Park, Somerset, the

6:28

Academy occupies a site with

6:30

a storied past. formerly the

6:32

Canadian Forces Base Somerset, the

6:34

area transitioned into a commercial

6:36

and aviation hub after the

6:38

base's closure. The APA used

6:40

this site's facilities to develop

6:42

state-of-the-art training programs to meet

6:44

the complex demands of modern

6:46

public safety roles. This setting

6:48

provides students with access to

6:50

a dynamic and immersive training

6:52

environment. The Academy offers a

6:54

variety of programs designed to

6:56

prepare individuals for careers in

6:58

public safety. These include the

7:00

24-week Correctional Officer Program, which

7:02

equips students to work in

7:04

federal and provincial correctional facilities,

7:06

the Police Science Cadet Program,

7:08

which emphasizes academic and tactical

7:10

skills through real-life situations, and

7:12

the professional firefighter program which

7:14

develops essential firefighting competencies. The

7:16

Academy's curriculum is continually updated

7:18

to address challenges faced by

7:20

professionals in these fields. It's

7:22

interesting that they do firefighting

7:24

there as well. Because that's

7:26

quite a different job than

7:28

security services. Well here in

7:30

British Columbia we have a

7:32

place called the Justice Institute

7:34

in New Westminster and that

7:36

is where first responders are

7:38

trained. So really, yep, my

7:40

nephew is going to college

7:42

in the autumn this year

7:45

for firefighting. He may end

7:47

up in a place where

7:49

they have other programs that

7:51

are dedicated to other first

7:53

responder related things like there's

7:55

a sheriff's course in the

7:57

JIBC security police, fire, paramedics.

7:59

Should I take a sheriff's

8:01

course? Pardon? Should I take

8:03

a sheriff's course? It's not

8:05

the fun cowboy sheriff that

8:07

you're thinking of Matthew. It's

8:09

a different situation. I knew

8:11

exactly where you were going

8:13

with that. But yeah, Matthew

8:15

gets to where the big

8:17

tin star on his chest.

8:19

And Steve will be the

8:21

official deputy. Deputy, Deputy Dog,

8:23

Deputy Dog, Deputy Steve. Manuel

8:25

Coyne graduated from the APA

8:27

in 1984 and moved to

8:29

Harvey, New Brunswick, where he

8:31

went to work for the

8:33

New Brunswick Highway Patrol. Harvey

8:35

is a small rural community

8:37

in York County. It is

8:39

approximately 35 kilometers southwest of

8:41

Fredericton, the provincial capital, along

8:43

Route 3. The village lies

8:45

near Harvey Lake, a scenic

8:47

area that offers outdoor recreational

8:49

opportunities and picturesque landscapes. Before

8:51

the arrival of European settlers,

8:53

the area now known as

8:55

Harvey, was part of the

8:57

traditional territory Wallastakyak Malasit people,

8:59

who are part of the

9:01

larger Wabanaki Confederacy. The Wallastakkik,

9:03

whose name means people of

9:05

the beautiful river, lived along

9:07

the Wollastok, now known as

9:09

the St. John River, and

9:11

its tributaries, including the land

9:13

surrounding what is now Harvey.

9:15

They relied on the region's

9:17

abundant natural resources, practicing a

9:19

semi-nomadic lifestyle that included hunting,

9:21

fishing, gathering, and cultivating crops

9:23

such as corn, beans, and

9:25

squash. The Harvey area would

9:27

have been part of seasonal

9:29

travel routes with its lakes,

9:31

rivers, and forests, providing vital

9:33

sustenance and spiritual significance. The

9:35

arrival of Scottish settlers in

9:37

the 19th century marked a

9:39

significant change to the land

9:41

use and landscape as indigenous

9:43

peoples were displaced and marginalized.

9:45

Harvey was settled in 1837

9:47

by a group of Scottish

9:49

immigrants. immigrants from the Paisley

9:51

area of Scotland. These settlers

9:53

were brought to New Brunswick

9:55

under a program aimed at

9:57

relieving population pressures in Scotland

10:00

while populating rural areas in

10:02

Canada. The immigrants arrived aboard

10:04

the brig Cornelius of Sunderland,

10:06

led by Captain John Little.

10:08

Early settlers relied on farming

10:10

to sustain their community cultivating

10:12

crops and raising livestock. Over

10:14

time, the area grew into

10:16

a close-knit, self-sufficient, rural settlement

10:18

with a strong emphasis on

10:20

community and family ties. Harvey's

10:22

economy was based on agriculture,

10:24

logging, and small-scale industries in

10:26

its early years. As transportation

10:28

improved, Harvey benefited from connections

10:30

to larger towns like Fredericton,

10:32

allowing residents to trade and

10:34

access additional goods and services.

10:36

In the late 1980s, when

10:38

Manny Accoyne arrived in Harvey,

10:40

it maintained its rural charm

10:42

and was close enough to

10:44

the city to make it

10:46

a great place to raise

10:48

a family. Farming still played

10:50

an essential role in its

10:52

economy and lifestyle. Many families

10:54

worked in agriculture, supplemented by

10:56

employment and small businesses or

10:58

commuting to jobs in Fredericton.

11:00

Harvey Lake in its surrounding

11:02

area were popular for fishing,

11:04

boating and summer picnics. The

11:06

rural setting offered a peaceful

11:08

lifestyle in traditions, such as

11:10

Scottish Highland gatherings and other

11:12

cultural celebrations. Life in Harvey

11:14

revolved around local community events,

11:16

church activities, and family gatherings.

11:18

Schools and sports such as

11:20

hockey and baseball were central

11:22

to youth culture, and the

11:24

village hall served as a

11:26

hub for social events like

11:28

dances and fundraisers. Like many

11:30

small communities during the 1980s,

11:32

Harvey faced challenges such as

11:34

rural depopulation with younger residents

11:36

moving to urban centers for

11:38

education and employment opportunities. However,

11:40

the strong sense of community

11:42

helped retain its identity. Constable

11:44

Manio Coyne was a well-known

11:46

and well-like figure in the

11:48

village as a member of

11:50

the NBA Detachment there. The

11:52

New Brunswick Highway Patrol, NBC,

11:54

was established in 1978 under

11:56

Premier Richard Hatfield's administration, initially

11:58

comprising 25 officers transferred from

12:00

the Department of Transportation to

12:02

the Department of Justice. Their

12:04

primary responsibilities included traffic patrol,

12:06

commercial vehicle enforcement, and upholding

12:08

highway laws. Okay, so commercial

12:10

vehicle enforcement. Have you been

12:13

reading the news about the

12:15

number of incidents here in

12:17

BC with commercial trucks hitting

12:19

bridges? Yes. Yeah. There's a

12:21

spate of them since 2021.

12:23

They're 34. trucks hit bridges

12:25

and and to the point

12:27

where they've increased the fines

12:29

to $100,000 and up to

12:31

18 months in prison. They

12:33

even shut down one trucking

12:35

company that seemed to be

12:37

responsible for many of them.

12:39

Yeah, I mean I have

12:41

to admit I do love

12:43

watching YouTube videos when trucks

12:45

have their beds up and

12:47

bashed into bridges. It's terrible

12:49

though. It's terrible but it's

12:51

kind of cool to watch.

12:53

I guess so. In 1980,

12:55

the New Brunswick Department of

12:57

Justice's enforcement unit was officially

12:59

renamed the New Brunswick Highway

13:01

Patrol, marking a shift towards

13:03

a more comprehensive policing role.

13:05

Throughout the early 1980s, the

13:07

NBA expanded its operations to

13:09

cover all provincial highways, growing

13:11

to 114 uniformed officers. These

13:13

officers were trained as peace

13:15

officers with the same responsibilities

13:17

as other police forces in

13:19

the province under the Police

13:21

Act. March 8th 1987 was

13:23

a typical lazy Sunday morning

13:25

in Harvey. The day started

13:27

for Manio coin before sunrise.

13:29

He dawned his NBA uniform

13:31

and headed out the door

13:33

to begin his day. Manny

13:35

then checked in with dispatch

13:37

and gathered updates on road

13:39

conditions, accidents, and ongoing investigations.

13:41

Given March's transitional weather, key

13:43

concerns that morning would have

13:45

been icy patches on rural

13:47

roads, black ice on bridges,

13:49

or areas prone to drifting

13:51

snow. Manny would have had

13:53

to start his patrol car

13:55

to warm it up while

13:57

scraping the nights frost from

13:59

the windows of his Crown

14:01

Vic. The sun was not

14:03

fully up when Manny a

14:05

coin hit the road. The

14:07

highway would have been relatively

14:09

empty with just a few

14:11

early risers and long-haul truckers

14:13

sharing the road with Manny.

14:15

The MBHB patrolmen's responsibilities included,

14:17

among other things, monitoring speeds

14:19

to ensure compliance with posted

14:21

limits, keeping an eye out

14:23

for impaired drivers returning from

14:26

Saturday night outings, assisting with

14:28

roadside emergencies such as a

14:30

car sliding into a snowbank

14:32

or a flat tire, and

14:34

patrolling remote areas for signs

14:36

of illegal activity, such as

14:38

poaching or logging violations which

14:40

were occasional concerns in rural

14:42

New Brunswick. Manny's route that

14:44

morning took him along Hanwell

14:46

Road past Yoho Lake. This

14:48

popular fishing spot is home

14:50

to various fish species, including

14:52

yellow perch, rainbow trout, Atlantic

14:54

salmon, striped-bass, small-mouth bass, and

14:56

red-breast sunfish, representing the northernmost

14:58

population of this species globally.

15:00

Additionally, the lake is renowned

15:02

for its thriving population of

15:04

common loons, like the ones

15:06

you hear calling at the

15:08

beginning of every episode of

15:10

Dark Poutine. Court documents indicate

15:12

that at around 1030 a.m.

15:14

Bernetta White was driving toward

15:16

Fredericton on Hanwell Road when

15:18

she noticed an NBA patrol

15:20

car with its emergency lights

15:22

activated and what appeared to

15:24

be a gray Porsche stopped

15:26

in front of it. The

15:28

car was gold but road

15:30

salt obscured its actual color.

15:32

You know I was talking

15:34

to my friend Richard this

15:36

week. He's moving from the

15:38

UK to Brooklyn and he's

15:40

going down to South by

15:42

Southwest, the show in Texas.

15:44

And he's like, he said,

15:46

I'm gonna buy Carl, I'm

15:48

in Texas and I'm gonna

15:50

drive to see you. And

15:52

I said, why are you

15:54

buying a car in Texas?

15:56

And he said, why are

15:58

you buying a car in

16:00

Texas? And he said, why

16:02

are you buying a car

16:04

in Texas? Or there's no

16:06

salt. You don't get a

16:08

rusty used car. I really

16:10

want to meet Richard to

16:12

tell you the truth. He's

16:14

a great guy. Yeah. As

16:16

Bernetta White passed the scene,

16:18

she noted a scruffy-looking young

16:20

man who was searching through

16:22

the hatchback of the gray

16:24

car while a police officer

16:26

in the patrol vehicle appeared

16:28

to be writing a ticket.

16:30

Shortly after passing the scene,

16:32

Bernetta heard a crack, which

16:34

she interpreted as a gunshot.

16:36

Looking back through her rear

16:38

view mirror, she saw what

16:41

she presumed to be the

16:43

man who'd been rummaging in

16:45

the back of the stopped

16:47

car, standing in the middle

16:49

of the road beside the

16:51

patrol car. Approximately five minutes

16:53

later, Ellen Graham McDonald was

16:55

returning home from her camp

16:57

on Yoho Lake, headed toward

16:59

Fredericton. The woman noticed an

17:01

NBA patrol car and a

17:03

sports car, the same Porsche

17:05

seen by Bernetta White, pulled

17:07

over on the side of

17:09

the road in what appeared

17:11

to be a traffic stop.

17:13

As she approached, the sports

17:15

car sped off at a

17:17

high rate of speed. As

17:19

she drove off, Ellen thought

17:21

it was strange that the

17:23

officer in the car who

17:25

seemed to be bent over

17:27

to pick something up had

17:29

not reacted when the other

17:31

car took off like it

17:33

did. At approximately 1105 Richard

17:35

Corey and his wife unnamed

17:37

and reports noticed Manio Coins

17:39

patrol car parked by the

17:41

roadside As the couple slowed

17:43

they saw the patrol car's

17:45

driver side window was rolled

17:47

down and the emergency lights

17:49

were still flashing. It did

17:51

not appear to the Coris

17:53

that anyone was inside the

17:55

patrol car. There were footprints

17:57

in the snow around the

17:59

car and in the snow

18:01

toward the brush along the

18:03

roadside. The Coris drove off

18:05

thinking perhaps the car had

18:07

broken down in the officer

18:09

who had been driving it

18:11

and left for some reason.

18:13

Something didn't feel right. They'd

18:15

only driven about a quarter

18:17

mile when Mrs. Cori implored

18:19

Richard to turn back. Richard

18:21

Cori was quoted Richard Corey

18:23

was quoted in the Daily

18:25

Gleaner or Fredericton newspaper, quote,

18:27

we had gone about a

18:29

quarter of a mile when

18:31

my wife said she thought

18:33

something was wrong other than

18:35

a mechanical failure because the

18:37

window was rolled down and

18:39

the emergency lights were flashing.

18:41

She said there was no

18:43

way the officer would have

18:45

left the vehicle like that,

18:47

even if it was broke

18:49

down. I got to thinking

18:51

about it and figured she

18:54

was probably right, end quote.

18:57

Okay, first of all, I love

18:59

the name of the paper, the

19:01

Daily Gleaner. Yes. Right? I love

19:04

the word Glean, right? To Glean

19:06

the truth. Yes. And secondly, there

19:08

are two very different types of

19:10

people in life. Those who turn

19:13

around and those who don't. Right.

19:15

I am definitely a turner arounder,

19:17

and my husband is definitely do

19:19

not. Yeah, I'm a turner around

19:21

or two. Yeah, just to make

19:24

sure people are okay. Despite the

19:26

craziness out in the world, I

19:28

figure if I don't stop and

19:30

try to help people who will,

19:33

right? Exactly. Exactly. Richard Corey drove

19:35

back to the police cruiser, exited

19:37

his vehicle, and approached the patrol

19:39

car to look inside. He saw

19:42

an officer slumped toward the passenger

19:44

side of the front seat, having

19:46

been shot in the head, and

19:48

was not moving. There was blood

19:51

everywhere. He did not notice any

19:53

bullet holes in the cruiser's windows,

19:55

though the driver's side window was

19:57

lowered more than halfway. Richard Corey

19:59

mentioned that another vehicle arrived at

20:02

the... seen around that time. He

20:04

instructed the driver whom he could

20:06

not identify to remain there while

20:08

he went to seek help. After

20:11

contacting the police by phone at

20:13

a nearby home he returned to

20:15

the site. Corey added that he

20:17

had not seen any vehicles on

20:20

his way and none passed him

20:22

coming from the Fredericton direction. Whoever

20:24

had done this had to have

20:26

driven in the other direction. Members

20:29

of the MBHP and the RCMP

20:31

descended on the scene and it

20:33

was clear to the attending first

20:35

responders that Manio Coyne slumped over

20:37

on the front bench seat of

20:40

his cruiser was dead. Constable of

20:42

Coyne's revolver was still in its

20:44

holster. The penman he had been

20:46

using to write a ticket was

20:49

still clutched in his hand. These

20:51

factors and the wound in the

20:53

side of the officer's head indicated

20:55

that he'd not been aware of

20:58

the danger and had been taken

21:00

unaware by the gunshot from a

21:02

high-powered rifle that had killed him

21:04

instantly. Constable Acoin had not had

21:06

time to radio his location before

21:09

being shot, leading investigators to presume

21:11

that the shooting had taken place

21:13

quickly after the Constable had pulled

21:15

over a speeder. The speeding ticket

21:18

that Constable Acoin had been writing

21:20

was present on a clipboard near

21:22

the officer's body. It contained some

21:24

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21:27

the car, a gold 1986 Porsche,

21:29

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21:31

most essential to solving the murder

21:33

was the name of the sports

21:36

car's driver, a 24-year-old man from

21:38

New York State, already wanted in

21:40

connection with a 1985 murder there.

21:42

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21:44

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21:47

began, so did the manhunt for

21:49

Anthony Philip Romeo. More after a

21:51

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21:53

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21:56

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And we are back Matthew thoughts

23:35

so far. Well, the first thing

23:37

is it just seems so such

23:39

a waste of his life It's

23:42

it's so sad and I get

23:44

nervous for police that are out

23:46

there on their own on highways

23:49

Right, right? It's sort of because

23:51

there's sort of like a target

23:53

on them for people who? Are

23:55

idiots, you know, and I don't

23:58

know do do many police? highway

24:00

police to do it on their

24:02

own? I think there are still

24:05

lots of jurisdictions where police are

24:07

on their own. Yeah, because I

24:09

can't afford double salaries, right? That's

24:12

right. Yeah. I kind of want

24:14

police to have a doubled up

24:16

buddy system to be safe. Yeah.

24:19

Yeah. Even if it's just some

24:21

random. Yeah. Have ride-alongs! Hey! If

24:23

any police are listening, if you

24:25

want me ever to have a

24:28

ride-along with you. If you're highway

24:30

patrolling on your own, invite me.

24:32

I'll definitely join you. I would

24:35

love to do it, yeah. As

24:37

word of Constable of Coins, Death

24:39

made the rounds in radio television

24:42

and newspaper reports, the debate about

24:44

the return of the death penalty

24:46

in Canada also arose, as it

24:49

often does after a cop's murder.

24:51

Some people in our country still

24:53

believe that the murderer of a

24:55

police officer should be punishable by

24:58

death. A coin's wife Esther, however,

25:00

was not one of them. Esther

25:02

said that one death was enough

25:05

and another would not serve Manny's

25:07

memory. In a letter read by

25:09

the Reverend Everett Hennabary at A

25:12

Coins funeral at a packed St.

25:14

Dunstan's Basilica in Charlottown, Esther indicated

25:16

that Manny loved being a police

25:19

officer. He was proud to be

25:21

a member of the NBA and

25:23

fully believed in what he was

25:25

doing. So why do people, it

25:28

seems that people call more for

25:30

the death penalty when a police

25:32

officer is shot? Yeah. But not

25:35

maybe less for others. What do

25:37

you think the psychology is with

25:39

that, Mike? Well, I think, you

25:42

know, police are what... what I've

25:44

been told about it because I've

25:46

asked a few people. People believe

25:49

that because somebody is a first

25:51

responder and they're out there putting

25:53

their lives on the line for

25:55

us anyway, that they should have

25:58

special protection. of don't agree and

26:00

because I don't agree with the

26:02

death penalty at all so yeah

26:05

I don't either and yes it's

26:07

um I just I'd see that

26:09

as a thin edge of a

26:12

wedge of well they they do

26:14

it for police why not for

26:16

children or we're not for this

26:19

or why not for that and

26:21

then before you know it we're

26:23

slaughtering people left right and center

26:26

I don't know if there's any

26:28

cases that have been filed yet

26:30

or successfully prosecuted but I know

26:32

that Florida has implemented execution for

26:35

people convicted of certain child sexual

26:37

assault cases. Interesting. Yeah, like you

26:39

say, it's a slippery slope. Yeah,

26:42

I'm just not for culture of

26:44

vengeance. No. Esther's letter also indicated

26:46

that Manny had concerns about being

26:49

alone on patrol. He had felt

26:51

that it would be safer for

26:53

highway patrol officers to travel in

26:56

pairs, a sentiment that gained traction

26:58

in the media and became a

27:00

part of the conversation around Manio

27:02

Coyne's death. Constable Akoyne learned from

27:05

her son Alir, a member of

27:07

the Canadian Armed Forces, stationed at

27:09

CFB Gage Town about Mani's death

27:12

by way of a phone call.

27:14

She later told the Daily Gleaner

27:16

in 2005, near the anniversary of

27:19

Constable Akoyne's death, quote, He told

27:21

me Emmanuel had been killed. It

27:23

was an awful shock. The police

27:26

here were supposed to come to

27:28

the house and tell me, but

27:30

they hadn't done that when Illier

27:32

called. I couldn't believe it. You

27:35

just don't expect that in this

27:37

part of the country." Arlene continued,

27:39

quote. We were very proud of

27:42

him, and I usually didn't worry

27:44

much about him. No one expected

27:46

his life would be in danger.

27:49

He was very well respected in

27:51

the community. People still stop me

27:53

on the street and mention his

27:56

name. They remember him as being

27:58

big-hearted, always with a smile for

28:00

everyone. I think about him a

28:02

lot and I still miss him."

28:05

End quote. Roadblocks were set up

28:07

and on all points bulletin was

28:09

issued for Anthony Romeo and his

28:12

gold Porsche with the New York

28:14

plates. However communication was a lot

28:16

slower in those days. Shortly after

28:19

the shooting Romeo drove to St.

28:21

Stephen where he encountered Alexander Cogswell,

28:23

a pedestrian. Romeo initially said the

28:26

word garage but quickly interrupted to

28:28

ask for directions to the bus

28:30

station. Before Cogswell could finish providing

28:32

directions, Romeo abruptly took off, nearly

28:35

colliding with another vehicle and turned

28:37

right toward the US-Canadian border. Cogswell

28:39

later said that the young man

28:42

appeared fidgety, nervous, and in a

28:44

hurry. Additionally, he noted that the

28:46

car seemed to be overheating. Romeo

28:49

had crossed back into the United

28:51

States at the border crossing between

28:53

St. Stephen, New Brunswick, and Callis,

28:56

Maine, before word of the dangerous

28:58

fugitive, got to the border agents

29:00

on either side of the line.

29:02

A customs officer, Sylvia Cutliff on

29:05

the U.S. side, remembered the Gold

29:07

Porsche, but had no idea at

29:09

the time the driver was now

29:12

suspected of not only one but

29:14

two murders, and one of them

29:16

was a police officer. The victim

29:19

of the 1985 murder on Fire

29:21

Island was John Starkey III, the

29:23

son of an aid to New

29:26

York Governor Mario Cuomo in November

29:28

1985. Fire Island a resort destination

29:30

with numerous summer homes and entertainment

29:32

venues serves as a retreat for

29:35

affluent New Yorkers. Starkey was killed

29:37

sometime between November 2nd and November

29:39

6, 1985. You know as a

29:42

gay man I feel like I

29:44

need to get to Fire Island

29:46

I've never never been there. Why

29:49

is it is it a? It's

29:51

a very famous gay destination. Okay

29:53

I didn't know that. Yeah yeah

29:56

Fire Island super gay. Okay and

29:58

friends of mine the Oppenheimer's have

30:00

a house there I should and

30:03

they've invited me maybe I'll go

30:05

this summer. The Oppenheimer's? Well is

30:07

it the same Oppenheimer who created...

30:09

The bomb, is that the Oppenheimer's

30:12

or? No, no, children of Senator

30:14

Oppenheimer. Oh, okay, okay. Well, not

30:16

the bomb one, the other ones.

30:19

Not the bomb Oppenheimer. You know,

30:21

there's Oppenheimer Park here in Vancouver.

30:23

Yes, there is, yeah. I wonder

30:26

if he was related to the

30:28

bomb dude. I don't know. There

30:30

can't be too many Oppenheimer families,

30:33

really. Yeah, I don't know of

30:35

many, just the park, the bomb

30:37

guy and my friends. Anthony Romeo

30:39

was accused of brutally murdering Starkey

30:42

by beating him and shooting him

30:44

multiple times at close range. The

30:46

injuries include a gunshot wounds to

30:49

the left arm, stomach, groin and

30:51

ear. Evidence linked Romeo to the

30:53

crime. Hair samples were found in

30:56

Starkey's hand and his death was

30:58

tied to a 357 caliber Smith

31:00

and Wesson revolver, registered to Romeo,

31:03

later turned over to police by

31:05

his father. Forensic tests revealed traces

31:07

of Starkey's blood beneath the pistol

31:09

grips of the weapon. Romeo was

31:12

ordered to provide blood and hair

31:14

samples for the investigation on March

31:16

5th, 1987, but had fled across

31:19

the border into Canada. The investigation

31:21

later revealed that on March 3rd,

31:23

1987, Anthony Romeo left his parents

31:26

home driving his 1986 Porsche, leased

31:28

by his father's company, without saying

31:30

where he was going. He had

31:33

a Winchester lever action rifle with

31:35

a significant amount of ammunition, a

31:37

crossbow with various arrows and tips,

31:39

and additional firearm ammunition. He also

31:42

packed personal items including clothing and

31:44

a sleeping bag. The run-in resulting

31:46

in constable a coin's murder was

31:49

not the only interaction that Romeo

31:51

had with police in Canada. On

31:53

March 5th, 1987 at approximately 1030

31:56

a. Constable Mandeville of the Quebec

31:58

provincial police stopped. Romeo for speeding

32:00

near Saguay Lake and Montlaurier, Quebec.

32:03

The incident was documented with a

32:05

ticket and a road map, later

32:07

introduced as evidence at his trial.

32:09

Two days after the first encounter

32:12

with law enforcement on March 7th,

32:14

Constable Guy Perrin of the RCMP

32:16

stopped Romeo near Campbellton, New Brunswick.

32:19

Although Perrin had no specific reason

32:21

for the stop beyond suspicion, he

32:23

warned Romeo that he would be

32:26

monitored if he stayed in the

32:28

area. So Mike if you're on

32:30

the run for murder right and

32:33

you kind of want to lay

32:35

low right Perhaps you don't take

32:37

such a flash car like a

32:39

portion Perhaps you don't speed everywhere

32:42

where you're going. Yeah, so take

32:44

a Toyota Corolla. Do they still

32:46

make those they take a Toyota

32:49

Corolla? Right and I mention that

32:51

because it's like a very common

32:53

or a Prius even car and

32:56

and drive the speed limit. If

32:58

you're like, if I don't want

33:00

people chasing me, I wouldn't get

33:03

a super car and a speeding

33:05

ticket. No. Later in the evening

33:07

of March 5th, Romeo was seen

33:10

in Blackville, New Brunswick, where a

33:12

local youth briefly interacted with him.

33:14

They noted that he seemed nervous

33:16

or frightened and invited him to

33:19

a social event in Fredericton, which

33:21

he declined. At the same night,

33:23

Romeo visited a pizza hut in

33:26

Fredericton. A waitress found him intimidating

33:28

and incoherent, while a waiter observed

33:30

that he appeared preoccupied but ordered

33:33

his meal calmly. By the early

33:35

hours of March 8, Romeo's Porsche

33:37

was spotted at a service station

33:40

in Meductic, New Brunswick. He had

33:42

slept in the car overnight and

33:44

attempted to arrange transport for his

33:46

vehicle to New York, but became

33:49

upset when informed it was not

33:51

possible. Between 6.30 and 7 a.m.

33:53

Romeo left Meductic and drove toward

33:56

Fredericton and the fatal encounter with

33:58

Manioke coin. After the murder, Romeo's

34:00

Porsche was found near Bangor International

34:03

Airport where he purchased a one-way

34:05

ticket to Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He

34:07

bought the ticket under the name

34:10

Philip Cortino rather than his real

34:12

name. The Delta Airlines ticket agent

34:14

who sold him the ticket did

34:16

not notice anything unusual about his

34:19

demeanor or behavior. From Bangor, his

34:21

flight included a layover at Logan

34:23

Airport. in Boston before continuing to

34:26

Fort Lauderdale. By the time Romeo's

34:28

description reached the airport he was

34:30

already on the flight, it was

34:33

then that authorities got word that

34:35

their suspect was on the plane.

34:37

Oh, the days when he can

34:40

fly without ID. Right? Yeah. It's

34:42

very strange, you know, like to

34:44

do this kind of research around

34:46

that era. It's like, oh, some

34:49

Rando could just say, oh, I'm

34:51

Bob Jones and I want to

34:53

be on this plane. And they

34:56

ruined it for the rest of

34:58

us. Of course, you know. Right?

35:00

It's just like, just because if

35:03

you think about it, right? We're

35:05

all numbered and you have to

35:07

show it for everything these days.

35:10

Yeah. By the time Romeo's flight

35:12

landed at Logan Airport in Boston,

35:14

state police officers were on high

35:16

alert. They were instructed to look

35:19

for an individual matching Romeo's description.

35:21

Slim billed approximately 5 foot 8

35:23

inches tall, dark complexion, wearing sunglasses

35:26

and a cowboy hat, and traveling

35:28

on a Delta flight bound for

35:30

Fort Lauderdale. Three state troopers approached

35:33

a man fitting the description they'd

35:35

been given of the suspect and

35:37

inspected his airline ticket. During the

35:40

interaction, Trooper Hummel asked the man

35:42

who he was. The man said

35:44

his surname was Cortino, as it

35:46

said on the ticket, but struggled

35:49

to spell it. Despite this oddity,

35:51

Trooper Hummel noted that the man

35:53

appeared steady and informed him he

35:56

was free to leave. However, moment

35:58

Later, the officers realized that the

36:00

Bangor Boston flight had already deplaneed.

36:03

They sought out the man they'd

36:05

just been talking with and found

36:07

him in a different area of

36:10

the airport. Upon further questioning and

36:12

a search of his belongings, they

36:14

discovered a wallet containing identification that

36:17

revealed his actual name as Anthony

36:19

Philip Romeo. Romeo was taken into

36:21

custody and detained at Logan Airport

36:23

from approximately 3 p.m. until after

36:26

10 p.m. that day, when he

36:28

was transferred to a detention center.

36:30

During this period, Trooper Scary observed

36:33

that Romeo remained calm and did

36:35

not exhibit unusual behavior or appearance.

36:37

Trooper Hummel added that Romeo's primary

36:40

concern upon being taken into the

36:42

police office was catching his connecting

36:44

flight. Hummel described the suspect as

36:47

quiet. and organized. Trooper Kathleen Barrett

36:49

inventoried Romeo's possessions after he was

36:51

asked to change clothes. She found

36:53

his driver's license and vehicle registration

36:56

hidden in his left boot. These

36:58

documents matched the identification in his

37:00

wallet under the name Anthony Philip

37:03

Romeo, which had been presented during

37:05

their second encounter at the airport.

37:07

When asked about his travel history,

37:10

Romeo claimed he'd been in Canada

37:12

for four days and... recounted interactions

37:14

with Canadian police officers. He insisted

37:17

he had not been speeding during

37:19

one incident and expressed frustration over

37:21

receiving a warning from an officer

37:23

who turned out to be constable

37:26

Emmanuela Coyne, the victim in this

37:28

case. Romeo explained that the name

37:30

change on his ticket was linked

37:33

to a company his father worked

37:35

with but offered no further clarification.

37:37

Trooper Palombo observed that Romeo became

37:40

agitated about certain topics. such as

37:42

speeding or being asked to remove

37:44

his clothes, but showed little concern

37:47

when discussing serious matters like constable

37:49

a coin's murder. The trooper thought

37:51

this peculiar behavior was inconsistent with

37:53

typical reactions. The Canadian authorities wanted

37:56

Romeo extradited to face trial for

37:58

Constable Acoins' murder. The state of

38:00

New York wanted to keep him

38:03

in the US to face charges

38:05

for the previous murder. It was

38:07

a messy situation, which Canada won,

38:10

and Romeo was brought back across

38:12

the border to face the murder

38:14

charge. Romeo had admitted to shooting

38:17

and killing Constable a coin, but

38:19

claimed delusions had led him to

38:21

believe he was confronting a monster

38:23

or butcher. The court would need

38:26

to determine whether insanity played a

38:28

role in Romeo's actions at the

38:30

time of the crime. While under

38:33

psychiatric observation, Romeo described his encounter

38:35

with Constable a coin. To Dr.

38:37

Suzanne Canning, he said, When I

38:40

was pulled over my mind just

38:42

went off on me. This could

38:44

be the guy that I am

38:47

receiving these signals from. I will

38:49

be beaten up, arrested, tortured, murdered.

38:51

He had his arm out of

38:53

the car waving frantically. The blinkers

38:56

were flashing. He put his finger

38:58

in my face. I am going

39:00

to give you a little bit

39:03

more than a warning. Give me

39:05

the money here, and I will

39:07

forget about it. I think he

39:10

is taking a bribe. He was

39:12

over six feet tall. He didn't

39:14

look like a monster, but he

39:17

was very tense and very tight.

39:19

He came across very robotic as

39:21

if he were going to do

39:23

something to me. What came to

39:26

my mind was, this is the

39:28

guy. Whether he was using a

39:30

badge or doing it illegally, he

39:33

must have something underground going on.

39:35

Some kind of operation going on.

39:37

He goes back to his car,

39:40

my whole life has faded. Maybe

39:42

he has been looking for me

39:44

my entire 24 years. I lost

39:47

control, fatigue. Hypothermia. I just said,

39:49

holy shit, this is the monster.

39:51

The thought was, complete silence in

39:54

my mind. I didn't know what

39:56

I was doing. I was in

39:58

a state of meditation. My mind

40:00

was hollow and light-headed. I didn't

40:03

have to think of anything. My

40:05

body just took over." Romeo was

40:07

found fit to stand trial in

40:09

1988, during which the crown wanted

40:11

to prove that Romeo knew precisely

40:14

what he was doing when he

40:16

shot and killed Constable Acoine,

40:18

while the defense presented a tale

40:21

of a disturbed young man. Born

40:23

on August 30th, 1963, into

40:25

an affluent family in Locust

40:27

Valley, New York, Romeo grew

40:29

up surrounded by privilege. His

40:31

parents, Rocco and Dolores Romeo,

40:34

provided him with every material

40:36

comfort, and he excelled academically at

40:38

a private school on Long Island,

40:41

at least until grade 11. Around

40:43

this time he became consumed by

40:45

an obsessive desire to escape

40:47

what he described as an unbearable,

40:50

quote, inner awareness. This marked the

40:52

beginning of his descent into

40:54

drug use, including marijuana, LSD,

40:57

PCP, and cocaine. According to

40:59

court documents, he also sought

41:01

solace in, quote, destructive

41:03

behaviors such as engaging

41:05

with prostitutes and isolating

41:07

himself from family and

41:09

friends, end quote. These choices

41:11

derailed his academic trajectory,

41:14

and he failed to graduate high school

41:16

on time, barely managing to do

41:18

so later. So question, is

41:20

engaging with sex workers de

41:22

facto destructive behavior? Not necessarily.

41:25

Okay, because if you're single

41:27

and it's safe and it's

41:30

mutual, right? Yeah, it depends on

41:32

the type of person that you

41:34

are, really. It depends on your issues.

41:36

Like, maybe that's just what you

41:39

do, you know, but it sounds like

41:41

this guy had other stuff going

41:43

on and that was a part

41:45

of a lifestyle for him. Yeah,

41:47

just sometimes I see that thrown

41:49

in, you know, I got you.

41:51

Prostitutes, and it does not necessarily,

41:54

if it's respectful and safe and,

41:56

you know, it's fine. Again, if you look

41:58

at the time though, that this... was

42:00

going on, it wasn't exactly

42:02

something that was thought of

42:04

as normal. It just was,

42:06

yeah. According to the Daily

42:08

Gleaner, the shadow of paranoia

42:10

had followed Romeo for years.

42:12

Despite attempts at therapy, sessions

42:14

he attended more to placate

42:16

his parents than to seek

42:18

genuine help, his mental anguish

42:20

remained unreleaved. The fleeting soulless

42:23

he once found in drugs

42:25

had diminished, leaving him trapped

42:27

in his mind. His psychiatrist

42:29

had even recommended admission to

42:31

South Oaks Hospital a private

42:33

psychiatric facility in New York,

42:35

but his mother rejected the

42:37

idea. She attributed his struggles

42:39

to substance abuse and dismissed

42:41

the hospital's methods as overly

42:43

harsh for her son. Financial

42:45

resources were not an issue.

42:47

Instead, it was a matter

42:49

of denial and differing perspectives

42:51

on treatment. Romeo's brief stint

42:53

at Northeastern University in Boston

42:55

ended after just one semester

42:57

due to poor grades. His

42:59

mental health issues deepened as

43:02

he fixated on the purity

43:04

of food and became convinced

43:06

he was being drugged or

43:08

poisoned. This paranoia strained family

43:10

relationships. They avoided inviting guests

43:12

over for fear of upsetting

43:14

him. Attempts to integrate Romeo

43:16

into the family business ocean-wide

43:18

food incorporated also failed. He

43:20

claimed to feel disconnected from

43:22

the work and suspected employees

43:24

of certain ethnic groups were

43:26

conspiring against the company. His

43:28

instability led him to drift

43:30

geographically and emotionally. A move

43:32

to Chicago lasted only a

43:34

month while a panic attack

43:36

at the airport derailed plans

43:39

to travel to California with

43:41

friends. Romeo's delusions took increasingly

43:43

bizarre forms. He believed that

43:45

his inability to mature emotionally

43:47

was linked to his uninterrupted

43:49

wisdom teeth and that others

43:51

around him were aware of

43:53

this secret. Auditory hallucinations reinforced

43:55

his feelings. inadequacy. During court

43:57

proceedings, his defense centered on

43:59

a plea of not criminally

44:01

responsible due to insanity. Dr.

44:03

Canning testified that Romeo believed

44:05

he was being pursued by

44:07

a monster that brutally killed

44:09

young men and he had

44:11

mistaken constable a coin for

44:13

this imaginary threat. Despite this

44:15

testimony, Romeo was found guilty

44:18

and sentenced to life in

44:20

prison with no possibility of

44:22

parole for 25 years. Following

44:24

his conviction, Romeo appealed the

44:26

verdict. The appeal was successful,

44:28

leading to a retrial. However,

44:30

the outcome remained unchanged with

44:32

Romeo's guilty verdict being upheld

44:34

in 1991. This process solidified

44:36

his life sentence for the

44:38

murder of Constable Coyne in

44:40

Canada. While serving his sentence

44:42

here, Romeo still faced legal

44:44

consequences in the US for

44:46

the murder of John Starkey

44:48

III. In 2006, nearly two

44:50

decades after the initial crime,

44:52

Romeo pleaded guilty to manslaughter

44:55

in the US, and he

44:57

received a sentence to be

44:59

served concurrently with his Canadian

45:01

sentence. However, Romeo appealed this

45:03

judgment, which was reversed as

45:05

the state had taken so

45:07

long to try him. Romeo

45:09

became eligible for full parole

45:11

on March 8, 2012, 25

45:13

years after a coin's murder.

45:15

However, his first parole hearing

45:17

in May 2012 resulted in

45:19

a denial. The parole board

45:21

of Canada determined that Romeo

45:23

still posed a risk to

45:25

public safety. In subsequent years,

45:27

Romeo continued to apply for

45:29

various forms of release. In

45:31

2019, he was granted a

45:34

temporary escorted absence from Dorchester

45:36

Penitentiary to attend a meditation

45:38

class nearby Monkton. This decision

45:40

marked a small step in

45:42

Romeo's gradual progression through the

45:44

correctional system. Can't they do

45:46

meditation classes in jail? They

45:48

absolutely can. Absolutely they can.

45:50

Why start? escorting people out

45:52

of Dorchester and going to

45:54

a dojo or something. Yeah,

45:56

it's just an excuse for

45:58

these guys to get out

46:00

of jail for time and

46:02

they're looking for any reason

46:04

not to be behind bars.

46:06

I think all prisoners should

46:08

have meditation classes every day.

46:11

It's true. That should be

46:13

part of the program. It

46:15

would probably be for everybody.

46:17

Meditation and some self-awareness. No,

46:19

honestly, because if it's, if

46:21

it's, yeah, there's punishment side,

46:23

but there's also the learning

46:25

side. It's like to learn

46:27

to like meditate and control

46:29

your emotions and your thinking,

46:31

probably would be the best

46:33

thing for society. Wouldn't it

46:35

though? Yeah. I wouldn't be

46:37

opposed to legislated meditation. No.

46:39

I mean, some people would

46:41

be like, ewwing them. It's

46:43

like, no, no, no, no.

46:45

If you can retrain people's

46:47

minds, right? That would be

46:50

a very good thing. Romeo's

46:52

most recent parole hearing occurred

46:54

in February 2022. The hearing

46:56

conducted virtually due to COVID-19

46:58

restrictions provided insights into Romeo's

47:00

current state and the complexity

47:02

surrounding his potential release. During

47:04

the hearing Romeo expressed remorse

47:06

for his actions and highlighted

47:08

the changes in his life

47:10

I'm 58 years old now

47:12

a lot has changed in

47:14

my life and I've been

47:16

in prison for 35 years

47:18

he stated He emphasized his

47:20

compliance with medication for paranoid

47:22

schizophrenia diagnosed in 1989 and

47:24

his participation in treatment and

47:27

support programs Romeo also addressed

47:29

his past substance abuse issues

47:31

stating quote, I was very

47:33

drunk and high at the

47:35

time. I think that led

47:37

to mental health issues, end

47:39

quote. He assured the board

47:41

of his intention to abstain

47:43

from alcohol and drugs in

47:45

the future. However, the parole

47:47

board faced a unique challenge

47:49

in Romeo's case. As an

47:51

American citizen, Romeo would be

47:53

deported to the United States

47:55

if released, where he would

47:57

not be subject to parole

47:59

or supervision. This lack of

48:01

post-release oversight concern the board

48:03

members. Sarah Curtis, delivering the

48:06

board's decision, explained, quote, given

48:08

the deportation order that's in

48:10

place, you're not able to

48:12

be supervised in the way

48:14

that the board would typically

48:16

see an offender serving a

48:18

life sentence. Despite acknowledging positive

48:20

changes in Romeo's behavior and

48:22

his compliance with medication, the

48:24

board ultimately denied his parole

48:26

application. Sarah Curtis concluded, quote,

48:28

Having considered all the factors,

48:30

the board is of the

48:32

view that you would pose

48:34

an undue risk to society

48:36

if you were released on

48:38

full parole in the plan

48:40

that's being proposed." This is

48:43

a really, really interesting quagmar.

48:45

I find this fascinating. So

48:47

a Canadian parole board, which

48:49

society are they responsible for?

48:51

Right? Canadian society or American

48:53

society when he's put back

48:55

over the border. Right. Right?

48:57

And I think they're taking

48:59

a very human approach of

49:01

trying to keep people safe

49:03

in the world. Right. But

49:05

it's an interesting challenge, isn't

49:07

it? You know, interesting challenge

49:09

if he met the conditions,

49:11

but he couldn't be monitored

49:13

in Canada. Well, should he

49:15

have been released anyway. You

49:17

know what I mean? It's

49:20

fascinating. I just find it

49:22

fascinating. Yeah, it's like we're

49:24

keeping... When it's cross-border, right?

49:26

I mean, the flip side

49:28

of that is we wouldn't

49:30

release somebody to America if

49:32

he was facing the death

49:34

penalty there. So if he'd

49:36

protect him, not in this

49:38

case, I don't think he

49:40

was... Then you also have

49:42

to protect other people in

49:44

America if you can't monitor

49:46

him. So it's probably... It's

49:48

a good way of thinking.

49:50

It's just a legally interesting...

49:52

Clagemar. Yeah, yeah for sure

49:54

it is. And frankly I'm

49:56

kind of glad he didn't

49:59

get out because you know

50:01

his daughter. The enduring pain

50:03

caused by Anthony Romeo's actions

50:05

is evident in the statements

50:07

from Constable Accoyne's family. During

50:09

a 2012 parole hearing, Accoyne's

50:11

daughter Valerie expressed her deep

50:13

seat of grief and anger.

50:15

She described Romeo's apology as

50:17

worthless, stating that he had

50:19

killed not only her father,

50:21

but also her childhood. The

50:23

New Brunswick Highway Patrol ceased

50:25

operations in 1989. when its

50:27

duties were integrated into the

50:29

RCMP as part of a

50:31

broader provincial restructuring of law

50:33

enforcement services. This move aimed

50:36

a streamline policing efforts and

50:38

reduced duplication of services across

50:40

the province. Anthony Romeo continues

50:42

to serve his life sentence.

50:44

And that's it for Dark

50:46

Putine episode 351 killed on

50:48

the job, Constable Emmanuel O'Coine.

51:03

That's right. It's time

51:05

for voicemails. You can

51:07

leave us a message

51:09

at 1-877-576 or 1-87-7-D-A-R-K-P-T-N.

51:11

We'd love to hear

51:13

from you. Let's see

51:15

who called us this

51:17

week. All righty. It

51:19

is time for our

51:21

very first voicemail. Let's

51:23

have a listen. It's

51:26

our first voicemail really

51:28

back since Christmas time.

51:30

So, yeah. Hi,

51:32

this is Lacey from Calgary.

51:34

I'm just calling to say

51:36

a special thinking of you

51:38

to Matthew. I know you're

51:40

dealing with some very scary

51:42

health issues, so you are

51:44

in my thoughts, and I'm

51:46

sending you strength. And I

51:48

also just want to say

51:50

thank you for the two

51:53

episodes on the gay purge.

51:55

I'm still constantly shocked. by

51:57

how cruel we can be

51:59

to one another and how

52:01

people in positions of power

52:03

can abuse that so thoroughly.

52:05

I found it very ironic

52:07

that you know they persecuted

52:09

gay people and so they

52:11

had to be you know

52:13

keeping that secret and keeping

52:15

that you know part of

52:17

themselves hidden and then they

52:20

said well because you're acting

52:22

all secretive Now we mistrust

52:24

you even more so we're

52:26

going to persecute you even

52:28

more. It's just all these

52:30

flimsy pretexts but it's just

52:32

it is scary how these

52:34

things can come about. Even

52:36

in Alberta we see some

52:38

trans rights going in the

52:40

wrong direction some things that

52:42

have been passed recently and

52:44

you know in the States

52:46

women's rights going back. So

52:49

it's very scary how you

52:51

know how far we've come

52:53

but how far we need

52:55

to go and how quickly

52:57

tides can change. So I

52:59

really hope as a human

53:01

race we can. get it

53:03

together and start being more

53:05

caring. But again, thank you,

53:07

Matthew and Mike. Your podcast

53:09

means a lot. I learn

53:11

a lot. I've been working

53:13

my way through supernatural circumstances

53:16

as well, which is always

53:18

very uplifting and informative. But

53:20

yeah, so I just wanted

53:22

to say thank you for

53:24

everything, thinking of you and

53:26

happy holidays. Bye. Thanks, Lacey.

53:28

Thank you for the kind

53:30

words Lacey. Yeah, I'm so

53:32

glad you picked up on

53:34

that Lacey Lacey the that

53:36

whole like you need to

53:38

hide yourself. Aha you're hiding

53:40

yourself. Thus you're not trustworthy.

53:42

Yeah, exactly damned if you

53:45

do damned if you don't.

53:47

Yep. Yeah, so and thanks

53:49

Lacey. We're recording this about

53:51

four days before I go

53:53

into surgery. So yeah, hopefully

53:55

by the time this is

53:57

out. This will either be

53:59

a depending on how it

54:01

goes on the table of

54:03

posthumous birds. Oh Jesus Christ!

54:05

Oh no! Don't say that.

54:07

Come on, I have to

54:09

have some dark humor, Mike.

54:12

Oh my gosh. This is

54:14

Matthew speaking to you from

54:16

the grave. Oh. Oh, I'm

54:18

just, I'm at a loss.

54:20

In one of my favorite

54:22

phrases, oh dear. Oh dear.

54:24

Yeah. Hey, if I don't

54:26

laugh, I'm gonna cry, big

54:28

boy. Yeah, me too. I've

54:30

been doing enough crying. Exactly.

54:32

All right, let's move on.

54:34

Here's another voicemail. Hey, it's

54:36

your old palacasper Colin. Just

54:39

one save Matthew. You're more

54:41

than welcome to come to

54:43

our place in Strathroy and

54:45

hang out for the day.

54:47

Bring Mike with you, bring

54:49

Steve with you, Justin, bring

54:51

everybody. We'll have a good

54:53

time. And we can check

54:55

out your old stomping grounds

54:57

too. Talk to you later

54:59

and go have a big

55:01

dump in your Duke. Thank

55:03

you, Casper. Maybe next time

55:05

I visit London to see

55:08

my mom and bro, stop,

55:10

stop into the Roy. Well,

55:12

hey, you know what? Like,

55:14

we should, we should have

55:16

a meet-up in Strathor. In

55:18

the Roy. Wouldn't that be

55:20

cool? I would love to

55:22

do it. I would love

55:24

to do it. We can,

55:26

you know, we can make

55:28

it happen. Because you need

55:30

to get home and visit

55:32

your mom at some point.

55:35

So yeah, my my stepdad

55:37

Ray is coming to rugby

55:39

sevens with me in February

55:41

in February. Yeah. Yeah. So

55:43

I've had it all booked.

55:45

I wanted something to look

55:47

forward to. My mom was

55:49

like, are you gonna be

55:51

okay? And I'm like, yeah.

55:53

I'm just gonna turn to

55:55

him and go, I'm peeing

55:57

right now. I guess I

55:59

guess for some time I'm

56:02

going to have some problems

56:04

with holding my peeve So

56:06

till I like I'm like

56:08

I'm doing kegles right now

56:10

You're doing Cagulls right now.

56:12

I should probably start now

56:14

before anything happens. I'm doing

56:16

it right now Matthew. Cagulls.

56:18

I can see the concentration

56:20

on the face. Oh dear.

56:22

I have a weak pelvic

56:24

floor. Anywho, thanks Casper much

56:26

appreciated. Here's another. Hi Mike

56:28

and Matthew. I've been a

56:31

long time listener. I think

56:33

like... since high school or

56:35

earlier. But I wanted to

56:37

call and thank you guys

56:39

so much. Over the summer

56:41

I got into a relationship

56:43

that wasn't the best and

56:45

I was listening to one

56:47

of your episodes and I

56:49

realized that the situation I

56:51

was in was really dangerous.

56:53

So I just wanted to

56:55

thank you for you know

56:58

helping me open my eyes

57:00

and find the courage to

57:02

get out of there. The

57:04

work you do is. Really,

57:06

really important. I just wanted

57:08

to thank you so much.

57:10

Have a great day and

57:12

go take a shit in

57:14

your hat. Wow, a mission

57:16

accomplished. That's how I feel

57:18

hearing that. I also feel

57:20

old because she's been this

57:22

thing since high school. Since

57:25

high school. Well, Matthew. When

57:27

did we start this podcast

57:29

1876? We started this from

57:31

the moon landing. Their moon

57:33

landing was just a thought.

57:35

Oh goodness gracious me! I'm

57:37

glad you got out of

57:39

that relationship. Yeah, me too.

57:41

Yeah. And I'm glad that

57:43

something we said helped you

57:45

tweak on that. warmed my

57:47

heart, to be honest. Me

57:49

too. That's it for this

57:51

week's voicemails. Again, you can

57:54

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57:56

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58:04

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58:06

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58:08

what to chat with us

58:10

about, a quick story is

58:12

welcome. All righty, so we

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do have some patrons this

58:16

week. First up, we have

58:18

a guy named Eugene Lewis

58:21

and Eugene is from Portland,

58:23

Oregon. And interestingly, Eugene is

58:25

also... a donut money donor.

58:27

So he felt so strongly

58:29

about donating to the show

58:31

that he's a donut money

58:33

donor and a patron and

58:35

in his donut money donor

58:37

message he says I really

58:39

appreciate you two guys wanted

58:41

to visit Canada for so

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long mental health practitioner working

58:45

in sex crimes in Portland

58:48

Oregon. Let's go to a

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Canadian gay club. sending donut

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money from your family and

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PDFs. Fantastic. You know, David

58:56

Bowie wrote that song about

58:58

him. Really? Yeah, Eugene. I

59:00

just met a boy named

59:02

Eugene. No, that's Blue Gene.

59:04

Oh, is it? It's Blue

59:06

Gene. I was hearing it

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wrong this. Yeah, it's interesting.

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Eugene's picture on... Paypal is

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Mike Tyson, which I don't

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know. It is really funny.

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So thank you, thank you,

59:19

thank you so much. Eugene.

59:21

He's given me where he

59:23

works and where he lives,

59:25

so I have nothing to

59:27

add other than the David

59:29

Bowie song. Well, maybe Eugene

59:31

does, he has himself a

59:33

hobby. I think he's just

59:35

a muse. He's a muse

59:37

to musicians. He's a muse

59:39

to musicians. Okay, well there

59:41

you go. Like you said

59:44

David Bowie. Yeah, allegedly, yeah,

59:46

was one of them and

59:48

and I think Rowan Chappelle,

59:50

he's a muse recently to

59:52

Rowan Chappelle as well. Oh,

59:54

how so? Just generally. Oh,

59:56

she hasn't released the song

59:58

yet. No, she's, she doesn't

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release the song mentioning him,

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but, you know, he's, he's

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in the songs. Oh, well,

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that's very nice. So you

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so Descoto, it's spelled T-A-T-E-S-C-E-T-E-S-T-T-E-I-

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UX Celeste Descato. Celeste is

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a great name. It is.

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It's a very, it's a

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beautiful name, really. I'm going

1:00:27

to say Celeste is from

1:00:29

Sook. From Sook B.C.? Yeah,

1:00:31

where the rainforest meets the

1:00:33

sea. Oh, that's beautiful. I

1:00:35

like, I like that a

1:00:37

lot. And what does Celeste

1:00:40

do there in Sook? You

1:00:42

know, I think with her

1:00:44

name, I think she she

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takes people out on a

1:00:48

boat far far away from

1:00:50

light pollution and then drops

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them off and puts chains

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around them like Dexter no

1:00:56

and and Describes the night

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sky. That's beautiful. I love

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it. Yeah, so last indicates

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stars. Yes, that is the

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root of that name celestial

1:01:07

I think that's what she

1:01:09

does. And your mind goes

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to making people swim with

1:01:13

the fishes. Right. I mean,

1:01:15

the name of her business,

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I believe, is celestial journeys,

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which is very nice. Yeah.

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Cool. Yeah. It's nice. Here

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comes your ride. The patty

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wagon. Here it comes for

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Matthew. Take him away. I

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wonder if the patty wagon

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has racist against Irish roots.

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Oh, it probably does. It

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probably does. That just occurred

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to me when I came

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to my head. And when

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