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depot dot dev I was

2:51

in a different dantan recently

2:53

what and it was

2:55

just a typical dantan

2:57

so cool so cool So cool.

3:00

But he's not going to

3:02

tell us where it was.

3:04

It's too cool. I've seen

3:06

some amazing downtowns in America.

3:09

I've traveled. Well, I'm very

3:11

well traveled. I'm sorry.

3:13

Downtowns, I'm not familiar.

3:15

Do you mean Dantans?

3:18

Dantans. Yeah. Dantans. Yeah.

3:20

Dantans. Yeah. Dantans. So

3:22

I've visited. Thank you.

3:25

Yeah. Dantans. Thank you.

3:27

Thank you. Oh, it just means like

3:29

for real olden days. Like the

3:31

Wild West movies that you've

3:33

seen. Just break it down. Break

3:36

it down. Right, so you've got

3:38

like on the way. There's basically

3:40

like a lot of dusty area,

3:42

wooden like buildings, wooden

3:44

buildings, wooden buildings,

3:47

wooden buildings, saloon doors.

3:49

Right. There's a guy in

3:51

there chewing tobacco. Yeah. You see any,

3:53

any of those, what do you call

3:55

those things? Tumel weed? Yeah. Well I get

3:58

a lot of them in my normal life. well.

4:00

Really? Yeah, just after a joke

4:02

or a witty remark, sometimes I'll

4:04

do a little, little rind, little

4:06

comment, something, and you know, just

4:09

silence for a bit. You can

4:11

hear it blow past. But adds

4:13

to the effect. I think I

4:15

think about crickets. Yeah, same, same

4:17

thing. Tumbleweeds and crickets? If you

4:19

make a joke and no one

4:22

laughs, you can if you listen

4:24

carefully you can hear a game

4:26

of cricket being played. Okay. One

4:28

of those rare things. I would

4:30

never play cricket. No, so now

4:32

here again is a misfire because

4:35

I was talking about crickets, which

4:37

is what you hear when you

4:39

tell a joke when it'll be

4:41

laughs, silence. Where did you go

4:43

Matt? Where did you visit here

4:45

in the states, the state of

4:48

Colorado? Oh yeah, well I lived

4:50

that, I used to live there

4:52

in Denver and in Boulder. Molder.

4:54

How do you say Boulder? How

4:56

do you say Boulder? Well I

4:58

say Boulder. Molder. Say it again.

5:01

Boulder. Can you say Boulder dash?

5:03

I can say Boulder dash, but

5:05

I can't, or Boulder dash. Yeah,

5:07

but I can't say. Sounds cooler

5:09

when you say it. I don't

5:11

think so. To me, you're the

5:14

cool ones. That's why I think

5:16

we have a friendship, because we

5:18

sound cool to you and you

5:20

sound cool to us and it

5:22

kind of just makes up for

5:24

our overall lack of experience. Yeah,

5:27

I mean, if you sound like

5:29

me, I would just wouldn't like

5:31

you. Yeah, but you sound like

5:33

Adam, I can't believe someone exists

5:35

who talks like you at all.

5:37

Like that's a thrill for me.

5:40

Imagine that. There's like being in

5:42

a movie. It's awesome, Adam. I

5:44

guess so. What is it about

5:46

his voice? Is it the malicious

5:48

sounds? Is it the words he's

5:50

using or the combination? Yeah, it's

5:53

just the whole sort of package

5:55

really. He is the entire package.

5:57

Yeah, the whole package. Yeah, I

5:59

love that. Yeah. Well, you know,

6:01

dido mad. I mean, I think

6:03

if we had a world where

6:06

your voice didn't exist, it would

6:08

not be Matt's world. Now, my

6:10

world, my voice. We're getting our

6:12

head of ourselves, or perhaps we're

6:14

trying to get ahead of ourselves.

6:16

Because perhaps a world where Jared's

6:19

in charge, Matt's voice also wouldn't

6:21

exist. Let's not reveal any spoilers.

6:23

Matt, you brought a strange idea

6:25

to us today. Actually, you didn't

6:27

bring it to us today, but

6:29

you brought it for today. Sure

6:32

did. Which is what? What is

6:34

this idea? Here's some toys. And

6:36

why did you come up with

6:38

it? And why are we agreeing

6:40

to it. And why are we

6:42

agreeing to it. Well, the weighing

6:45

we're, the weighing we're agreeing, that's

6:47

on you. And I do think

6:49

weighing, I do think weighing is,

6:51

should be a word. I need

6:53

that. And, but you can't just

6:55

make up words like that, can

6:58

you? You, people look at you

7:00

strangely or there's a tumble. Let's,

7:02

let's introduce it, why. What does

7:04

it break down to mean? Like,

7:06

is it, like, when you're thinking

7:08

about something, that's the process of

7:11

weighing? You're thinking about why. Yeah,

7:13

why is that? Yeah, you're weighing

7:15

it. You're thinking like howling. Sometimes

7:17

you how something. Other times you

7:19

why it. So you're weighing, or

7:21

you're howing? Yeah. Well, if I

7:24

owned the world, I'd be able

7:26

to just make these new words,

7:28

anything I like. You know, if

7:30

someone's eating a sausage, I could

7:32

say, yeah, sausage. Like I could

7:34

make that socially normal in this

7:37

world. That one's not that weird.

7:39

No, it's not. It doesn't have

7:41

to be weird. It's just what

7:43

I like. Tell me that's a

7:45

throwback to your time in Germany.

7:47

Oh yeah, Berlin, when they were

7:50

all calling your bad names. Oh

7:52

yeah, yeah, I love Berlin. Isn't

7:54

it because you said some other

7:56

sausage though? Wouldn't there something involved

7:58

with sausage? Yeah, he said, yeah,

8:00

sausage, and they said, well, we

8:03

don't really, we don't want to

8:05

just be so excited with that.

8:07

We've got a lot going on

8:09

also. Didn't some lady call you

8:11

a Donca? Yeah, everyone was saying

8:13

like, Donca, Donca, Donca, but originally

8:16

I thought they were calling me

8:18

names. Yeah, but I didn't know.

8:20

That just means thank you. It

8:22

does. Probably for leaving. Probably thanking

8:24

you for leaving. Oh, they're a

8:26

lot more polite than I was

8:29

like, than I experienced. Oh my

8:31

gosh. The sausage bit. The sausage

8:33

bit. Well, if you're not tracking,

8:35

you should go back in time

8:37

and listen to past shows. We

8:39

can't catch up. Yeah. That's just

8:42

a callback that's just too deep

8:44

in the stack. It is a

8:46

deep cut. I got overflow. Matt,

8:48

there's a strange dichotomy with British

8:50

people with British people. British person

8:52

and that's this politeness juxtaposed with

8:55

tomfoolery or like just calling names

8:57

and being mean yeah so yeah

8:59

what's up with that it's like

9:01

there's like a polite society aspect

9:03

and a properness and there's also

9:05

like this underhanded I'm gonna call

9:08

you a name you're not gonna

9:10

realize it's a bad word yes

9:12

well I think what's really going

9:14

on is We there is the

9:16

politeness thing where if you bump

9:18

into somebody In the street you

9:21

say sorry even if they've bumped

9:23

into you But you're not you're

9:25

not really it's not in the

9:27

same way that you might say

9:29

sorry in other places where you're

9:31

sort of taking responsibility You're not

9:34

you're not everyone knows it was

9:36

their fault now they have to

9:38

also say sorry then and then

9:40

everything's okay Just socially the social

9:42

story. Sorry might mean like it's

9:44

your fault and we both know

9:47

it Yeah, it's like, oh sorry,

9:49

but it's almost like a polite

9:51

way of just acknowledging something's happened

9:53

that shouldn't have happened and you

9:55

both say it and then everything's

9:57

okay. And then you haven't really

10:00

had to assign blame or anything,

10:02

you can kind of just get

10:04

sweep it under the carpet. Yeah.

10:06

But if the second person doesn't

10:08

say the sorry back and it

10:10

was their fault, that's that's the

10:13

worst thing that it can happen

10:15

on the street. Kind of yeah,

10:17

yeah, although in London people are

10:19

from everywhere so you can never

10:21

really issue But if it's a

10:23

British person, it bumps into you

10:26

and then you say, oh sorry,

10:28

and then they don't say sorry,

10:30

they just look at you or

10:32

just carry on with their lives,

10:34

they've crossed a line. The US

10:36

and they're a tourist then maybe.

10:39

Yeah, maybe those guys, those folks

10:41

are tourists. And everyone else is

10:43

Brits and those are the people

10:45

that say. Yeah, although in London,

10:47

everyone's from everywhere. So it's kind

10:49

of like. You can't be from

10:52

everywhere. You have to be from

10:54

one place generally. No, you just

10:56

sort of get on with it,

10:58

don't you? But then there's the

11:00

banter side where you basically try

11:02

and be, it's a way of

11:05

making friends as you sort of

11:07

mean to strangers sometimes. Right. And

11:09

if it's friends too, right? Oh,

11:11

well definitely. More mean to your

11:13

friends than the other strangers. Yeah,

11:15

yeah. Which explains why you're not

11:18

very nice to me very often.

11:20

I take it as a compliment,

11:22

sir. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you should do.

11:24

But you have American friends that

11:26

are just always just nice to

11:28

you and just say nice things

11:31

like, oh, neat hat, Jared. Stuff

11:33

like that. I don't prefer it,

11:35

but you know, those people are

11:37

hard to find. Mm-mm. Oh, neat

11:39

hat, Jared. Thank you, sir. I

11:41

like the word proper. You know,

11:44

in place of, I assume it's

11:46

in the place of the word

11:48

like good or I'm gonna get

11:50

something nice or the best. It's

11:52

like real. Yeah. If it's proper,

11:54

yeah. It's like, you know, imagine

11:57

there's like a traditional way of

11:59

making something. Yeah, it's authentic. Yeah,

12:01

it's authentic. Yeah, it's authentic. Yeah,

12:03

it's like, imagine there's like a

12:05

traditional time come out with a

12:07

cup of tea that they've made

12:10

and it's horrible. And it's horrible.

12:12

What do you say with it?

12:14

It's not good. No, they just

12:16

say it's proper, but they say

12:18

it in the way that you

12:20

know, they mean the opposite. It's

12:23

like the sorry thing. Then you

12:25

say, Donca. Hm-hmm. Hm-hmm. So would

12:27

you go, would you, would you,

12:29

would you guys like to come

12:31

to Matt World? Oh yes, I'm

12:33

sorry. That was a proper sidetracking.

12:36

We sidetracked you. Back to Matt

12:38

World. This is a world in

12:40

which you decide, or what do

12:42

you decide Matt? What happens? Yeah,

12:44

so I'm gonna take you to

12:47

Matt World and it's basically a

12:49

place that I've just sort of

12:51

designed. It's my planet. I get

12:53

to choose what it's like there's

12:55

going to be some interesting food

12:57

and drink to explore. and then

13:00

maybe a new gadget a new

13:02

rule for society and then something

13:04

that you would just you just

13:06

like to be a little bit

13:08

different okay just like maybe it's

13:10

like this world but you would

13:13

like it to be slightly tweaked

13:15

got you do yeah okay so

13:17

this is the idea here of

13:19

course we have Jared's world and

13:21

Adam's world waiting in the wings

13:23

but this is Matt's idea and

13:26

you are our guest so You

13:28

go first take us to Matt

13:30

world. What is this place like

13:32

Matt world? Let's go Let's go

13:34

get in your rocket Put your

13:36

seat belts on we're gonna take

13:39

off it now in the unlikely

13:41

event of an emergency. I want

13:43

you to sort out your own

13:45

masks first That's very important. Don't

13:47

be helping someone else Oxygen mask

13:49

okay don't I thought we had

13:52

to sort our masks like we

13:54

had more than one of them

13:56

we were gonna sort them by

13:58

size or something oh I see

14:00

yeah no this this is a

14:02

brits sorry I'll do the American

14:05

yeah please do that version after

14:07

yeah well if you're feeling unwell

14:09

there's a little tiny little bag

14:11

in the seat in front of

14:13

you in the seat pocket in

14:15

front of you so if you

14:18

could please use that it's really

14:20

tiny though so don't do any

14:22

big just a little sort of

14:24

a Yeah, just do a little

14:26

one. Sounds like Wayne's world, remember

14:28

that? If you're gonna spew, spew

14:31

into this. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

14:33

That guy, that guy designed a

14:35

lot of our hospitality on board.

14:37

There you go, it's to Matt

14:39

World. Yeah, because it's a kind

14:41

of funny world. It's, you know,

14:44

it's kind of silly, isn't it's

14:46

gonna be my world. I hope

14:48

you enjoy your time with us.

14:50

Remember to please visit the dungeon

14:52

for over-engineers. This is a place

14:54

where if you over-engineer things and

14:57

make loads of complexity where it's

14:59

not needed, you go in this

15:01

dungeon. It's a simple thing. Harsh,

15:03

but fair, I think. You know,

15:05

you have to build an MVP

15:07

before you're legally allowed to build

15:10

anything more complicated. Otherwise, you might

15:12

not be able to build MVPs.

15:14

And that's why we have the

15:16

dungeon of overengineers. Any questions about

15:18

this place? How do you get

15:20

out? You just have to build

15:23

something really simple. Oh, but good.

15:25

Like a Fizz Buzz? Or? You

15:27

can do. Hello, World. I like

15:29

that one. Okay, so Dungeon for

15:31

Over Engineers and really small puke

15:33

bags in the... Yeah, but that's

15:36

not part of the world. Oh,

15:38

I'm sorry. I was just giving

15:40

you the... That's just in case

15:42

anyone's feeling well on the flight.

15:44

When you get to Matt World,

15:46

please, please do not forget to

15:49

sample the delights of clever coffee.

15:51

You play podcasts into the beans

15:53

as they're growing, and then when

15:55

you brew the coffee... That information

15:57

actually can get into you, into

15:59

you, into your body. Oh wow.

16:02

Arsmosis. Kind of like that, yeah,

16:04

but through coffee. And yeah, you

16:06

get that you just get the

16:08

knowledge. So that's really cool, like

16:10

you'd be like, oh, I want

16:12

to learn about politics. I'll drink

16:15

some politics coffee or maybe the

16:17

Peruvian coffee you can learn about

16:19

Machu Picchu or something like that.

16:21

Maybe it's the place. Yeah, maybe.

16:23

Would you like a cup? What

16:25

would you have in your coffee?

16:28

And wouldn't you like that? You

16:30

could just have a coffee and

16:32

you'd like getting the API docs

16:34

in your brain. Sounds kind of

16:36

amazing actually. I'm wondering about how

16:38

diluted it might be because you're

16:41

really just passing water through the...

16:43

Maybe if you actually ate the

16:45

coffee beans, you just become all-knowing.

16:47

Yeah, I think it's just like

16:49

caffeine though. It only lasts that

16:51

long. Oh, it goes away. Yeah,

16:54

you forget it. Not as cool

16:56

now. Now or near as cool.

16:58

So you just drink it for

17:00

your morning coding session and you

17:02

just like know the stripe API

17:04

inside out, for instance. If you're

17:07

drinking tripe's coffee. And then you

17:09

lose later in the day. You

17:11

lose it, it wears off. Yeah,

17:13

but you might be like, oh,

17:15

I'm going to, I'm going to

17:17

write, I'm going to write a

17:20

Grafana dashboard. How do I do

17:22

that? Let me drink the Grafana

17:24

brew. And then you've got that,

17:26

you've done it, oh, I've downloaded

17:28

the wrong bit. So it's an

17:30

advertisement? No, no, no, I'm just

17:33

saying for example. Another example. You

17:35

can't play podcasts into the coffee

17:37

beans and then those that information

17:39

goes into the beans as far

17:41

as I know. Now what if

17:43

you played this podcast right here

17:46

that we're recording into the coffee

17:48

beans and then drank the coffee?

17:50

What would you know afterwards? This

17:52

entire everything we talk about in

17:54

this. Some high quality coffee. Yeah

17:56

you when you order them I

17:59

think you choose the audio profile

18:01

coffee. That would be proper. Yeah.

18:03

Okay so clever coffee this is

18:05

your your best beverage. That's the

18:07

best bet for us to get.

18:09

Well, while you're here, please, please

18:12

try, if you can, the falafel

18:14

wraps. They're lovely. There's nothing special

18:16

about them. Just love a falafel

18:18

wrap. You have complete creative freedom

18:20

to come up with anything that

18:22

you want. You can't beat it,

18:25

though. And you just go with

18:27

a falafel. The only way I

18:29

think you could beat a falafel

18:31

wrap is if you had a

18:33

headache. Why didn't you do that

18:35

then? I mean, you can do

18:38

whatever you want here, Matt. It's

18:40

Matt world. Yeah, because I don't

18:42

know. I don't have a headache.

18:44

Okay. Yeah, and plus, there's gonna

18:46

be more. regulations with that sort

18:48

of food, didn't they? So I

18:51

can't bother with that. What about

18:53

the clever coffee? I think they'd

18:55

probably regulate that, wouldn't they? Yeah,

18:57

they'd try. But without smart enough,

18:59

because we've had a cup of

19:01

business strategy. Yeah, well if you're

19:04

drinking like the business brew, so

19:06

speak, and you get a comedic

19:08

latte instead. Yeah, you learn a

19:10

lot of comedy versus business. You

19:12

get a legal flat white. and

19:14

then you've got yourself armed to

19:17

the teeth really well present yourself

19:19

in court. What do they call

19:21

those? Those bills. Determinacy builds? No

19:23

not deterministic where you know the

19:25

build end-to-end reproducible. Reproducible builds, you

19:27

know, you have to be able

19:30

to reproduce the fact that you

19:32

know, you got to document what

19:34

knowledge went into this coffee so

19:36

that I'm not drinking some, you

19:38

know. some of your politics. I

19:40

just want to drink some business

19:43

brew. Yeah, there we go. There's

19:45

that whole, you know, not proper

19:47

politics up in here. No, that's

19:49

it. There was that big scandal

19:51

where they were worried about that

19:53

because everyone suddenly, everyone just suddenly

19:56

got into wearing mollets again and

19:58

they were worried that someone had

20:00

spiked the clover of coffee. They

20:02

looked lovely, but I've been waiting

20:04

for an explanation for this. Yeah,

20:06

that's what's coming to it. That

20:09

is possible. Sneaking it. Sneaking. Sneaking.

20:11

Sneaking it in. Sneaking it in.

20:13

Sneaking it in. Sneaking it in.

20:15

I tell you I do it

20:17

right there micro-dosing. Micro-dosing. Micro-dosing, the

20:19

mullet coffee. Now's in a podcast

20:22

about mulets though. So first you

20:24

have to find a podcast about

20:26

mulets and you turn that into

20:28

the coffee and then people grow

20:30

mulets. They're doing fade mulets now.

20:32

We have like really high here,

20:35

a fade, and then it fades

20:37

into a mullet of the back.

20:39

Yeah, it's good idea. Perms are

20:41

back too. Well, I'd love to

20:43

show you, well, you know, if

20:45

you want to come into my

20:48

house, have a sit down, notice

20:50

that the sofa doesn't have any

20:52

legs, it's just floating. You're welcome.

20:54

Don't be scared. It's perfectly fine.

20:56

Sit on it. It moves a

20:58

bit more than normal. But sit

21:01

down. That's not even it. So

21:03

when you sit down the sofa,

21:05

it kind of moves a little

21:07

bit? Well, it does. It doesn't

21:09

have any legs. Is it hovering?

21:11

Yeah, it's hovering. But it moves

21:14

when you sit on it. It's

21:16

like suspension. Is there any way

21:18

to make it not move? Like

21:20

a walk? The more expensive ones

21:22

will. Oh, more steady. Is it

21:24

loud? Is it displacing air underneath

21:27

it? No, you just, you didn't

21:29

sound it, it just floats. All

21:31

right, awesome. Yeah, levitates. They would

21:33

call that levitating, actually. What's the

21:35

difference between levitating and floating? That's

21:37

a great question. Yeah, that's a

21:40

great question. That's a great question.

21:42

I've never thought about that. If

21:44

you're floating, I think it's two

21:46

different words that mean essentially the

21:48

same thing. Yeah, but they've got

21:50

to be something different. I think

21:53

floating might be the act of

21:55

like being a certain weight and

21:57

that there's no there's neither pull

21:59

nor push when gravity is concerned

22:01

but when you're levitating your resisting

22:03

gravity staying in the same position

22:06

yeah so if it's density then

22:08

if you're less dense you float

22:10

that's floating yeah because you're buoyant

22:12

with gravity right but if you

22:14

are magically or some of the

22:16

means lifting yourself up. Okay, there

22:19

we go. Okay, so that's what

22:21

your, your sofa levitates, which is

22:23

the reason for the movement. Yeah,

22:25

they just move a little bit

22:27

when you sit down. I'm just

22:29

saying don't be scared when you

22:32

sit down. This isn't even my

22:34

main gadget. I want to tell

22:36

you about this new gadget. I'm

22:38

going into the details here. This

22:40

is, this levitating couches. You know,

22:42

stop, stop, stop, the press. So

22:45

I'm out of talked about this

22:47

before, but it was coming back.

22:49

Night rider or sleepy car, I

22:51

call it. It's essentially you, it's

22:53

like a Nanite here called... you

22:55

can fall asleep in a car

22:58

and it's a self-driving car. So

23:00

if you wanted to go, what's

23:02

a place that's like eight hours

23:04

away from where you live, Jared?

23:06

Denver. Denver. So you want to

23:08

go to Denver for the day,

23:11

some pain to do that now,

23:13

but with Nanaita car vehicle, you

23:15

can get in the car, it

23:17

will drive you there while you

23:19

sleep, you then wake up, you're

23:21

in Denver for the day, you

23:24

go back to bed in the

23:26

car, and it drives you back,

23:28

and it drives you back. So

23:30

as far as you're concerned you've

23:32

just slept in a car, or

23:35

slightly better than a car, but

23:37

you've teleported essentially. You have a

23:39

day where you are now, and

23:41

then the next day in Denver,

23:43

the day after that, back where

23:45

you are now. Well, I think

23:48

teleporting might be a stretch. I

23:50

mean, you're sleeping the whole time,

23:52

right? You're sleeping, but it's close

23:54

to teleports, isn't it? Because you're

23:56

not really, unless you're conscious of

23:58

where you are every time while

24:01

you're asleep while you're asleep, while

24:03

you're asleep, while you're asleep. I

24:05

don't even know I'm still in

24:07

the bedroom. I'm kind of appreciating

24:09

how much Matt undershot on these.

24:11

They're understated, you know, like he

24:14

had a complete freedom to do

24:16

whatever he wants. It comes with

24:18

fall offals and full self-driving basically.

24:20

These are, this is a really

24:22

good Waymo, isn't it, Matt? It's

24:24

a night, world is like... The

24:27

current world we're in but maybe

24:29

like six months earlier or later

24:31

Yeah, okay. I hope so. Yeah,

24:33

I hope so I hope so

24:35

too. It's the floating couch thing

24:37

I mean, we're not quite there

24:40

yet, but No, well you can

24:42

if you have a big strong

24:44

magnets, but I think clever coffee

24:46

is going to be at least

24:48

eight months. Yeah, coffee is a

24:50

great idea Yeah, all right, so

24:53

you've got a gadget which is

24:55

a Nanite lemo a sleepy car

24:57

Yeah, yeah, it's hush-hush-hush bed-times vehicle

24:59

van vehicle van And you're a

25:01

salesman because you claim it teleports

25:03

you but what it does is

25:06

it drives you places while you're

25:08

sleeping. It's like tele- the closest

25:10

we'll get. I fell asleep on

25:12

a flight to the US once.

25:14

I got on the plane. They'd

25:16

messed around, tried to warn me

25:19

about not to put someone else's

25:21

mask on. Like, oh no. You

25:23

sort your own mask. Well, I

25:25

wasn't even going to, I wasn't

25:27

even thinking of helping anyone else

25:29

at all. So I don't know

25:32

what they're playing at. And they're

25:34

like, oh, do you want this

25:36

tiny little packet of peanuts? Yes,

25:38

please. Would you like some even

25:40

smaller pretzels? I've never seen a

25:42

pretzel that small. Have you? Anyway,

25:45

this is just in my head,

25:47

but this happens. So I fall

25:49

asleep. I wake up in America,

25:51

that's where you all live. Correct.

25:53

And to me, that was like

25:55

two hours of my life conscious.

25:58

So that was like teleporting. Yeah,

26:00

I used to do all the

26:02

time when we go on family

26:04

vacations and I was a child.

26:06

I just sleep in the car.

26:08

Yeah. You leave your house and

26:11

then you wake up when you're

26:13

there. There you go. So I'm

26:15

excited for Matt World. What else

26:17

you got? Did you like that

26:19

when you were a kid doing

26:21

that Jared? I loved it. Yeah,

26:24

see that's what I'm saying. I

26:26

love it. What has happened? You

26:28

forgot about that love? No, it's

26:30

just that. Just my parents were

26:32

driving the car, you know, I

26:34

wasn't teleporting really. I understand. From

26:37

my perspective, I get 100% what

26:39

you're saying. I'm just feeling like,

26:41

you know, complete creative freedom to

26:43

invent a gadget. That's all. Okay,

26:45

good. But so just clear. You're

26:47

just making clear for your listeners.

26:50

This is your game, by the

26:52

way, so just keep that in

26:54

mind. Okay, what else you got?

26:56

I can't wait to hear this

26:58

rule. Well, exactly, the laws are

27:00

different on each of our planets,

27:03

of course. And mine, there's a

27:05

law that's actually quite a strange

27:07

one that was passed a few

27:09

years ago. If you want a

27:11

dock at work, you have to

27:13

write it. It's a law. Yeah,

27:16

in that world. In that world,

27:18

okay, this is a good one.

27:20

You want something written? You write

27:22

it yourself. You cannot request that

27:24

somebody else write some documentation. Yeah.

27:26

You have to write it yourself.

27:29

And if you can't, because you

27:31

don't know, then you have to

27:33

find out in order to write

27:35

it. Yeah. But it proves that

27:37

you need it, first of all,

27:39

because it's easy to just imagine,

27:42

here's six docks we should have.

27:44

That's easy. All right, let's play

27:46

this out for a moment. So

27:48

let's say Matt, in Matt World,

27:50

you write a new microservice. It's

27:52

perfectly engineered so you're not in

27:55

danger of the dungeon. And I

27:57

need to use your microservice and

27:59

it's got no docs. I can't

28:01

come to you and be like,

28:03

hey Matt, you should write some

28:05

docs for this. Yeah, this is

28:08

true. You found an immediate place

28:10

where this is my plan. I

28:12

should write the docs. I'm not

28:14

talking about docs really. I'm talking

28:16

about like a design. I'm talking

28:18

about like some pre-designed thing or

28:21

some... write a doc that explains

28:23

something about the system like gotcha

28:25

yeah which you have the knowledge

28:27

it's one of these laws there's

28:29

like lots of small fine print

28:31

yeah changed over time yeah well

28:34

you have to adjust it as

28:36

the world advances okay so not

28:38

a bad idea yeah tiny little

28:40

law Adam you like this one

28:42

write your own docs I think

28:44

it's uh it's it's probably hard

28:47

to enforce wait what kind of

28:49

consequences are there if you Ask

28:51

somebody else to write some docs.

28:53

Three nights in the dungeon? No,

28:55

no. It's basically decriminalized at this

28:57

point. Decormalized? So it's a misdemeanor?

29:00

Not even, yeah. Not even that,

29:02

you just find. It's like jaywalking.

29:04

Okay, so I already does it.

29:06

So it's a worthless law. All

29:08

right, what else you get? It's

29:10

mostly a request. Yeah. It is,

29:13

yeah. And that's all laws are,

29:15

really, isn't it? They just request

29:17

a like, please, please, please don't.

29:19

Yeah, pop pop his head off.

29:21

If you do this, I'm gonna

29:23

have to do that. Yes. And

29:26

you don't want that. It's a

29:28

good idea to have laws written

29:30

in code. though I think, which

29:32

would give me the idea, it's

29:34

quite a good one. You should

29:36

try that. Yeah. All right, the

29:39

laws of physics aren't exactly the

29:41

same on this planet, by the

29:43

way. I know what you're thinking,

29:45

Jared, you're thinking laws of physics

29:47

are probably identical to Earth. Why

29:49

would they be? It's Matt world,

29:52

it's different. Okay. All the rain

29:54

falls in one go. Like just

29:56

down, like, a single drop. It's

29:58

just an enormous just smash everything

30:00

that's awesome Finally none of this

30:02

like none of this delivery in

30:05

little bits and pieces and taking

30:07

hours one big massive drop like

30:09

worldwide. Yeah, just bang does everybody

30:11

get hit at once or their

30:13

holes in it? Everybody's wearing pointy

30:15

hats How do they know? We

30:18

got really good weather people? They

30:20

just wear them all the time.

30:22

You never know when it's coming.

30:24

You can see that's all. Is

30:26

that a law? No, but the

30:28

point you have to do it.

30:31

Otherwise, you have to try and

30:33

dive through it like in a

30:35

reverse dive. If you don't have

30:37

the head on, like, could it

30:39

kill you? It probably could. You

30:41

certainly get a, you could certainly

30:44

get a slapped red back. Have

30:46

you ever jumped into a pool

30:48

and just landed on your belly

30:50

on your head? Smash! All the

30:52

buildings are pointy. Okay, those are

30:54

big ramifications. Yeah. But yeah, once

30:57

it's done, you can go out

30:59

for the day. Do we want?

31:01

Just one big drop. Just comes

31:03

down in one big slab. Love

31:05

it. Matt, world. Sounds fascinating. Welcome.

31:07

Have a coffee. You know, this

31:10

one's from Kenya, so you can,

31:12

this will actually teach you about

31:14

the sort of rich experience of

31:16

that country. and the rich culture

31:18

so have it enjoy that's a

31:20

Kenya one or I can offer

31:23

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31:25

New York for half an hour

31:27

you'll know how to look cool

31:29

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31:31

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31:33

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33:04

I'd love to go. I don't

33:07

even think I want to do

33:09

any more of this stuff. I

33:11

don't know if I'll be as

33:13

cheeky as Matt, but I will

33:15

take it to Adam World. Let's

33:17

hear it. I left to go.

33:20

I really, uh, I really struggled

33:22

because I was between a couple

33:24

different worlds here. Hmm. But I

33:26

figured I'd stay stereotypical and take

33:28

it to... what I would call

33:30

Adam World. Okay, let's hear it.

33:33

Silicon Valley. Am I supposed to

33:35

read this script that you share

33:37

with me, Jared? Is that the

33:39

rule? Matt sent me the script.

33:41

Should he read the script? He

33:43

didn't read the script. Yeah, he's

33:46

sort of, he used it as

33:48

an outline. Okay. You can read

33:50

verbatim if you want, or you

33:52

can do it like Matt did,

33:54

or you can do whatever you

33:56

want to your show? I will

33:59

do my best. Okay. Okay. Yep.

34:01

Yep. Yep all we can ask

34:03

all we can ask for it.

34:05

Please please. Please. Please. A lot

34:07

of popular popular concerts. Welcome gentlemen.

34:09

Thank you. I didn't write that.

34:12

Welcome gentlemen to Adam World. I

34:14

hope you enjoy your time with

34:16

us. Remember to visit the Silicon

34:18

Valley Museum and the food court

34:20

and try the hooly piper burger

34:23

today and sample the delights of

34:25

the uptick mineral water which might

34:27

which might reduce bed wedding. But

34:29

first, can I introduce you to

34:31

our favorite gadget, the most revolutionary

34:33

compression algorithm ever that the world

34:36

has ever seen? Oh. That's it.

34:38

That's the script. Middle, middle, something.

34:40

I didn't name it. It was

34:42

already named. That's right. All right,

34:44

so. The new gadget is a

34:46

revolutionary compression algorithm. Yeah. We could

34:49

use one of those. It remains

34:51

unnamed. Like Voldemort. You can't say

34:53

the name. Right the new rule

34:55

new law is this Everything is

34:57

nothing and nowhere, but also kind

34:59

of everywhere. Cloud. Yeah, compressed. Compressed.

35:02

And the thing I thought the

35:04

change most about the world that

35:06

I live in is I wanna

35:08

live, this is heartfelt, okay, this

35:10

is hard even say. Okay, you

35:12

can do it. You don't say

35:15

it. I want to live in

35:17

a world where everyone can watch

35:19

Silicon Valley a piece of harmony.

35:21

Well, this is, yeah, this is

35:23

very touching. Okay, I've said it.

35:25

That's it. That's it. That's it.

35:28

That's it. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's

35:30

it. Wow. That's it. Wow. That's

35:32

it. Wow. I like to be

35:34

on Adams World. I've just started

35:36

re-watching Silicon Valley. And it is

35:38

so good. I'm proud of you.

35:41

How many times have you seen

35:43

it, Adam? Endless. It's constantly playing

35:45

in my brain. Yeah. So if

35:47

you had that compression album, by

35:49

the way, you can't name it

35:51

because the name is so small

35:54

that you can't be spoken by

35:56

humans, is compressed that much? They

35:58

wanted to call it FTL. Faster

36:00

than light. Yeah? Faster than light,

36:02

yeah. For the loss. For the

36:04

loss. It's lossless though. It's lossy.

36:07

For the loss is good too.

36:09

But it was actually faster than

36:11

light. But I like FTL for

36:13

the loss as well. Or flossing.

36:15

Well, so if you had that

36:17

for real then, what would that...

36:20

I mean, because we did have

36:22

a bit of a problem before

36:24

recording this where my hard drive

36:26

is... Well that would have never

36:28

happened. Okay, because based on the

36:30

new rule, new law, everything is

36:33

nothing in nowhere, but also kind

36:35

of everywhere. I don't know what

36:37

that means. Well, everything is nothing,

36:39

and it's nowhere, because it's just

36:41

so small. But it's also kind

36:43

of everywhere, because it's so small,

36:46

it can move so fast. So

36:48

this problem Matt had with moving

36:50

his data and all that disk

36:52

space issue is that... It just

36:54

basically renders disk-based obsolete because it's

36:56

infinite. It's just... The thing that

36:59

something becomes nothing but also something

37:01

in everywhere. Yeah, that's clear it

37:03

up. Yeah. I think... I always

37:05

found compression to be sort of

37:07

bonkers that you could just have

37:09

a file and then do something

37:12

and then it's a smaller file

37:14

and then do something else and

37:16

put it back. You know, sometimes

37:18

mad. I just... uncompressing decompress and

37:20

decompress things constantly just to see

37:22

if somewhere someone's pulling something over

37:25

on me okay yeah that's good

37:27

we should find out constantly compressing

37:29

recompress compressing recompress it's like it's

37:31

back and forth yeah yeah yeah

37:33

one day I'll know for sure

37:35

if they're truly compressing those things

37:38

and then pulling them back out

37:40

and they work again Yeah, I

37:42

don't ever know. Or they're just

37:44

saving the main file in a

37:46

different form. And that's why we

37:48

have the Silicon Valley Museum. If

37:51

we didn't have this museum, these

37:53

critical cultural icons in our world

37:55

today would just be gone forever.

37:57

Yeah. You would never know why

37:59

or how. I thought this was

38:01

the Silicon Valley. I mean, where

38:04

it is? Where is? But with

38:06

the... But I thought when you

38:08

meant Silicon Valley, I thought you

38:10

meant like the actual computer. area.

38:12

Oh yeah, sorry man. But you

38:14

don't, this is where you're sorely

38:17

mistaken man, this is the TV

38:19

show. You know, listen to the

38:21

show enough man, it's never the

38:23

computer. Silicon Valley TV show. It's

38:25

always a TV show. You gotta

38:27

keep it alive forever. It's, yeah.

38:30

It's rich in my blood, deep,

38:32

deep, deep. One time I tried

38:34

to reference the actual geography of

38:36

Silicon Valley and this guy dinged

38:38

me anyways. He overruled it and

38:40

he just dinged it. He's like,

38:43

nope, nope, that's a TV show,

38:45

that's a TV show, so. Good

38:47

luck, trying to talk about the

38:49

geography. Okay, now forget it. Not

38:51

Adam's world. Yeah, not Adam's world.

38:53

Now, I don't know about you,

38:56

but I'm just sick and tired.

38:58

Sick and tired of... I'm gonna

39:00

start crying again. It's tough to

39:02

talk about, okay? Getting choked up?

39:04

I've got some friends, okay. They're

39:06

still a little scarred. They were

39:09

trying to watch Silicon Valley. It

39:11

was too close on home. Some

39:13

people came in the house, started

39:15

throwing some things, okay? They were

39:17

throwing things. It was not cool.

39:19

No peace, no harmony. Trying to

39:22

watch Silicon Valley. So everyone is

39:24

allowed to watch it. And that

39:26

is the law. No, that's not

39:28

the law. This is the law.

39:30

That's the law. Well, that's the

39:32

change. If you want everyone who

39:35

wants to watch it. You can

39:37

do so in peace and harmony.

39:39

So now there was this cult

39:41

this uprising trying to abolish and

39:43

get rid of and erase Silicon

39:45

Valley culture and Everything that this

39:48

TV show stands for and people

39:50

were trying They were on eBay

39:52

and they were trying to get

39:54

the TV show There was insiders,

39:56

it was a mess, it was

39:58

a mess, it was a mess,

40:01

it was a mess, it was

40:03

a mess. And then whenever you

40:05

watched Silicon Valley, the TV show,

40:07

There was never any peace and

40:09

never any harmony. And so the

40:11

new rule is this, is that

40:14

you have to abide by peace

40:16

and harmony. You cannot disrupt. They

40:18

will watch Silicon Valley forever, if

40:20

they want to. Sounds like this

40:22

driesant effect. I'm getting a little

40:24

worked up now. Now I was,

40:27

I was sad for a second

40:29

there, but now I'm mad. Well,

40:31

maybe you should come to Jared's

40:33

world. Yeah, it sounds like you've

40:35

made a word, Adam, sounds like

40:37

you've made a world that's really

40:40

just tormenting you. Pop in the

40:42

rocket, let's go to Jared World.

40:44

Would you like an enormous pretzel?

40:46

Welcome gentlemen! To Jared World! Oh,

40:48

hello. Yay! I hope you do

40:50

enjoy your time with us. Remember

40:53

to visit the Lou! Yeah. Which

40:55

is our Lou Garrick-themed restaurant. And

40:58

when you're there, be sure to

41:01

order the number two, which is

41:03

the best chili nachos smothered in

41:05

baked beans. Lovely. And then of

41:07

course when you're all finished, you

41:09

can watch it, wash it down

41:11

with our world famous cocktail. You're

41:13

gonna love this cocktail, Matt. It's

41:15

an homage to Alan Iverson and

41:17

his mechanical horse named Ten Ten.

41:19

Sorry. This is too good. It's

41:21

so good. Yeah, it's, you know,

41:24

Iverson, the famous basketball player here

41:26

in the United States. Yeah. Well,

41:28

did you know we had a

41:30

mechanical horse? Was it called Tintin?

41:32

Was it? Yeah, Iverson's mechanical Tintin.

41:34

We call the drink, Iver MacTin.

41:36

No, it's, is it coming in

41:38

a Tintin? Yes. Like a Trojan

41:40

horse. And it'll finish you off

41:42

nicely after that number two. It

41:44

is big. Yeah, you almost can't

41:47

finish it in one city. Right,

41:49

yeah. Now that's just our fine

41:51

cuisines. We also have amazing new

41:53

gadgets. I'd love to hear about

41:55

your gadget. Is it better than

41:57

a levitating chair or a sleepy

41:59

nighttime car? Yes, I think it

42:01

might be more useful than a

42:03

really good waymo. Oh yeah? This

42:05

is called the disincinerator. And it

42:07

does exactly what it sounds like.

42:10

It's the opposite of an incinerator.

42:12

It's so useful. So if you

42:14

have a great campfire and you

42:16

want to do it again. Right.

42:18

Same wood, just disincentorate it. California

42:20

wildfires? No need to rebuild your

42:22

home, just disincentorate your home. Right

42:24

back to good as new. Yeah.

42:26

Or the Amazon forest, ravaged by

42:28

loggers. First you have to incinerate

42:30

the logs. Right. And then let's

42:33

get those trees back in the

42:35

ground with the disincinerator. Right. I

42:37

think you get the point. This

42:39

is very good. And grandma? That's

42:41

right. Oh yes. The ultimate. The

42:43

disincinerating values is your loved ones.

42:45

Bring them back. As long as

42:47

they don't choose traditional burial. Right.

42:49

We can disincinerate them too. This

42:51

is exciting. Because I sometimes burn

42:53

things and then think afterwards I

42:56

shouldn't have burnt that. I think

42:58

we all do that from time

43:00

to time, don't we? It happens.

43:02

Yeah. Pretty good gadget. Yeah, this

43:04

is a good gadget. Thinking outside

43:06

the box, you know? Not just

43:08

renaming existing vehicles, but just brand

43:10

new things. Yeah. Of course there

43:12

are some people who would not

43:14

like this disincinerator. Serial killers. Oh,

43:16

yeah. It's annoying for that. of

43:18

people with really mean grandmas. Some

43:21

grandmas are horrible. Yeah, and you

43:23

just want to leave them. as

43:25

they are, as they lay, or

43:27

as they lie. Mm-hmm. Liars, they

43:29

are. But for everybody else, there's

43:31

the distance generator. This is it,

43:33

yeah. That's my gadget. I got

43:35

nothing else there. That's how Jared's

43:37

world works. I once made a

43:39

pizza. And I didn't really know

43:41

what I was doing, so I

43:44

sort of put it under the

43:46

grill, which is the broil thing

43:48

in the US, I think. You

43:50

know what, it's just got the

43:52

heat on the heat on the

43:54

top? Sure. Sure. That's kind of

43:56

like a kind of like a

43:58

like a like a pizza oven.

44:00

But I was essentially just grilling

44:02

or toasting a pizza, a frozen

44:04

pizza. And anyway, with cut a

44:07

long story short, it was on

44:09

fire. It was very quickly on

44:11

fire. And I knew it was

44:13

a spicy pizza, but that I

44:15

don't think it was meant to

44:17

be on fire. And it's certainly

44:19

when I checked the box, it

44:21

said nothing about that. If anything,

44:23

it implied, it wouldn't be on

44:25

fire. Like I didn't say explicitly,

44:27

but... Yeah, you just can rid

44:30

between the lines. Yeah, you can't

44:32

return it at that point, unless

44:34

you had a disincentrator. Now, in

44:36

that case, I think it pays

44:38

for itself. You can just take

44:40

cooking too far and then just

44:42

rewind it, basically. You can get

44:44

yourself a disincentrator for four easy

44:46

payments of $29.99 and one really

44:48

hard payment. So, just look out

44:50

for that one. Same amount, but

44:53

you have to pay in pennies.

44:55

That's right. your check's going to

44:57

get lost in the mail, your

44:59

credit, your bank account's going to

45:01

bounce, something's going to go wrong

45:03

on that last one. Yeah, put

45:05

the wrong number in when you

45:07

try to put your destination bank

45:09

account number, you put it all

45:11

incorrectly, but you got something wrong

45:13

in the address, so it's just

45:16

slowly down. It's just, it's not

45:18

much the system has been flagged,

45:20

but it's bank holiday, it's a

45:22

long weekend. So, shout out to

45:24

Mitch Hedberg, Gag, that he does

45:26

quite a bit better than I

45:28

better than I do. And if

45:30

I can disincentorate him, I certainly

45:32

would. All right, now there are

45:34

some new rules here in Jared

45:36

World. We don't live after the

45:38

same rules that you all live

45:41

by. This is gonna be dark,

45:43

aren't we? He's gonna make our

45:45

damn cry. Here's what we're gonna

45:47

do. We're gonna return to champions.

45:49

Okay, we're gonna bring back champions.

45:51

In Jared World, we do not

45:53

wage war by killing millions of

45:55

young men, women, innocent children. All

45:57

disputes are resolved by champions. Just

45:59

like we used to do in

46:01

the neighborhood growing up. You know,

46:04

my dad, you beat up your

46:06

dad, that kind of a thing.

46:08

Or the old school, David versus

46:10

Goliath, you know. Send out your

46:12

best. We send it on our

46:14

best. Right, and whoever wins, wins

46:16

a dispute. Was David the best

46:18

one? Because that statue of him,

46:20

he's got no arms. Have you

46:22

seen it? Initially. Yeah, I think

46:24

Michael Angelo screwed that part up,

46:27

didn't he? Or is that? And

46:29

he didn't have any clothes, he

46:31

didn't have any clothes on, he's

46:33

got his willy out. He can't

46:35

go to battle. All I needed

46:37

was five smooth stones, I guess,

46:39

but not any... Just had two.

46:41

You must have read a different

46:43

account. So yes, this is the

46:45

old champions. Here's how it would

46:47

work. Now I got practical here.

46:50

I want to actually explain this

46:52

because you know, you can't just

46:54

come out and say whoever's champion

46:56

wins wins. I still do not

46:58

want there to be murder. Okay,

47:00

so there's no, all wars now

47:02

are done this way instead. And

47:04

it is based on champions. How

47:06

it works is each disputing group

47:08

will pick their contest. Okay, it

47:10

could be MMA, it could be

47:13

Wii Sports, chess, vibe coding, whatever.

47:15

Right. There's nine events and the

47:17

smallest population picks first because they

47:19

need a little help. Right. And

47:21

then each contest has a new

47:23

champion. So you name, here's our

47:25

vibe coding champion, right? Here's our

47:27

chess champion. And they battle it

47:29

out. First one to five wins

47:31

a dispute. Here's the kicker though.

47:33

each champion that loses is disqualified

47:36

from ever being a champion in

47:38

that category ever again and so

47:40

choose wisely. What do you think?

47:42

This will work right? I mean

47:44

I think this I think we

47:46

should do this just as a

47:48

team. I think we should. Yeah,

47:50

it's kind of like the Olympics,

47:52

but it higher stakes and more

47:54

categories. More random categories. Wasn't that

47:56

last part again? Like how does

47:58

that go? Well you got nine,

48:01

so let's say it's United States

48:03

versus Great Britain, for instance. Okay.

48:05

Oh, come on, that never happened.

48:07

I know it wouldn't, but just

48:09

for giggles. Hilarious. Yes. So we

48:11

would pick, oh, we have a

48:13

bigger population, so they would pick.

48:15

a category probably cricket could be

48:17

probably a surefire win for them

48:19

right I mean could could be

48:21

the Beatles and then we put

48:24

Paul McCartney in it could be

48:26

yeah he's still kicking yeah we

48:28

put Willie Nelson against him see

48:30

what happens yeah but they would

48:32

pick cricket you know we don't

48:34

have any quicker players we might

48:36

just give them that one or

48:38

like fine whatever you in that

48:40

category and then we would pick

48:42

a category and you could name

48:44

pretty much any other game of

48:47

skill and then we would have

48:49

more people on that one and

48:51

then they would pick one. What's

48:53

that? You say burgers and we're

48:55

like, well let them just have

48:57

that one. Exactly. Apple pie, you

48:59

know, a pie baking contest. Yeah,

49:01

so food we pretty much win.

49:03

But it could be like fortnight.

49:05

I'm sure there's probably some really

49:07

good fortnight players over there. Yeah,

49:10

even curling. Mine Sweep. Mine Sweeper.

49:12

Yeah, there's the whole kinds of

49:14

e-sports. I can move into this.

49:16

And then whoever wins is best

49:18

of five. So you got nine

49:20

different events. So you can go

49:22

eight to four to four all

49:24

the way down. Whoever wins the

49:26

last one wins the dispute. So

49:28

whatever we're disputing about, be it

49:30

land or money or how many

49:33

use to put in the word

49:35

favorite. I'm looking for zero. We

49:37

win or they win. And that's

49:39

it. This sputes over. It's over.

49:41

Yeah, I think I think everyone

49:43

could get behind that. You'd be

49:45

like, okay, fair enough. We're all

49:47

going to lose all the entertainment

49:49

too, right? Like, yeah. They're already

49:51

trying to entertain us with these

49:53

monstros- Right like they're like showing

49:56

us war and stuff and How

49:58

about like something fun? Yeah, I

50:00

like this idea We have to

50:02

get the violent people to really

50:04

buy into this idea. I think

50:06

it's the Well it's Jared world

50:08

so I just dictate it Like

50:10

this is just how the world

50:12

works. Yeah, yeah, you have to

50:14

Yeah, yeah, this is a good

50:16

one. It puts my docs one

50:19

into sharp perspective, doesn't it? That

50:21

one really seems very important. Yeah,

50:23

yeah, sure it does Yeah. In

50:25

fact if you had a dispute

50:27

over docks well we would just

50:29

champion it you know. And I

50:31

think in this world it's it's

50:33

probably pretty easy to to watch

50:35

Silicon Valley. I think peace harmony.

50:37

I think yeah you might exist

50:39

happily in this world Adam. Yeah

50:41

it's not no need for tears,

50:44

no need for you know sessions

50:46

and groups and you know. Yeah.

50:48

Fellow Silicon Valley people to cry

50:50

with. What's that AI best friend?

50:52

Something about it. Something about it.

50:54

What a beautiful world, Jude. So

50:56

I've described to you guys my

50:58

gadget, which is the distance generator.

51:00

I've told you my new rule,

51:02

which is a return to champions

51:04

and skill-based competition to settle disputes.

51:07

My thing I would like to

51:09

change. And Matt, you did say

51:11

this does not include physics. I

51:13

can just do whatever I want,

51:15

right? Yeah, anything you want, mate.

51:17

Don't forget I had the big

51:19

rain- some of your stuff. Well.

51:21

Let me just go a little

51:23

bit bigger than that even and

51:25

say, everything that tastes good, ice

51:27

cream, snickers, the extra large number

51:30

two from lose, they're all actually

51:32

good for you. Right. And everything

51:34

that tastes bad, you know, cucumbers

51:36

or cucumbers gone bad, aka pickles,

51:38

avocados, you know, gross stuff, they're

51:40

actually bad for you. Right. So

51:42

this is not a creative one

51:44

because I think a lot of

51:46

people would like this, but it

51:48

really is going to bring people

51:50

into Jared world. Because would it

51:53

be amazing if the best things

51:55

that tasted the best to you

51:57

actually were the best for you?

51:59

Wouldn't it? that just be epic? Yeah

52:01

it would be epic. For a lot I think

52:03

a lot of people will be happy

52:05

with that and I don't want to

52:08

take anything away from them but just

52:10

just for me just only speaking just

52:12

for me personally I don't like I

52:15

don't really like cakes and that and

52:17

the stuff I like is good for your

52:19

stuff like I love avocado cucumber

52:21

oh yes please pickled hello well

52:23

you must be pretty healthy then

52:26

I think I am but not

52:28

deliberately Yeah, just because you like

52:30

the taste of good things.

52:32

Yeah. Well, here's the thing

52:34

is, I didn't describe how

52:36

it works especially. I was

52:38

naming things that I think taste

52:40

good or bad, but

52:42

it's completely subjective. So

52:44

whatever you think tastes good

52:47

is good for you. Ah, here we go.

52:49

Yeah, so I wouldn't everybody

52:51

with that, right? Like, there's,

52:53

yeah, who's gonna not want

52:55

that? Yeah, I just want to go.

52:58

Red pill. So this is

53:00

a personal preference. This is

53:02

not a, I make your

53:04

food taste bad, you make

53:06

my food taste, whatever.

53:08

Whatever tastes good is

53:11

good for you. And that's

53:13

you personally. So

53:15

all your favorite stuff that's

53:17

guilty pleasure. Everything is good?

53:20

Is good? Is good. So

53:22

let's say I have a

53:24

bag of Swedish fish.

53:26

Sweetish fish. Let me tell

53:29

you about Red 40. Tell

53:31

me about it, man. What

53:33

is Red 40? Let's see

53:35

how biased this is. This

53:37

is Deep Seek R1. What is

53:40

Red 40 thinking? Red 40

53:42

also known as Alora Red

53:45

AC is a synthetic

53:47

red dye widely

53:49

used in food

53:52

beverages cosmetics and

53:54

pharmaceuticals. Right, okay, okay, and

53:56

you live it is known to

53:59

have health concerns hyperactivity

54:01

in children to

54:03

children lead to in some

54:06

studies to allergic reactions and

54:08

some of the stuff I

54:10

don't know whatever yeah anyways

54:12

it's bad if it's it's approved

54:14

in the US not in Jared

54:17

world not in Swedish fish in

54:19

Jared world well it's good for

54:21

you in your world isn't it

54:23

Jared that's right I mean

54:25

this is just how it works yeah

54:27

well I mean The point is, is

54:30

you got Swedish fish, red 40. I

54:32

think it tastes good. Okay, they're

54:34

pretty solid. I've never had them.

54:36

In Jared World, they don't taste

54:38

good? Or is it up to me for them

54:40

it tastes good? If it tastes bad

54:43

to you, it's bad for you. It's

54:45

bad for you. It's a simple equation.

54:47

If it tastes good to you, it's

54:49

good for you. You make sure you're

54:51

getting enough Swedish fish. You get that

54:54

red 40. You need that red 40.

54:56

That's right. It tastes good to

54:58

me, good for me, no

55:00

matter what. Exactly. I mean, this

55:03

is a win, win, win. There's

55:05

no losing here. I mean,

55:07

you would just want this

55:09

real change. This is why

55:11

I changed it. So let's

55:13

say you got somebody who's

55:15

like really done with broccoli.

55:17

They're down with it?

55:20

They're down with the broccoli.

55:22

I love you broccoli. You

55:24

know, that's like a speech

55:26

impediment kind of thing. Yeah,

55:28

okay. No. This is a

55:31

dated, that was a dated,

55:33

uh, caricature of the person.

55:35

That was when they were

55:37

seven. I didn't know you

55:39

dated, maybe four or three.

55:41

I love you, boy, go ahead,

55:43

do it again. He wants to

55:46

do it again. Go ahead. He

55:48

wants to do it again.

55:50

Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, so

55:52

if you love broccoli these are candy.

55:54

Yes, good for you no matter what

55:56

it's good for you It's not

55:59

a complicated algorithm. There's no

56:01

holes in this algorithm. You

56:03

can't poke a hole in

56:05

it. All right, so who's

56:08

moving where? That's what we

56:10

got to know. Who's moving

56:12

where? Now I'm kind of

56:14

want this, I think my

56:17

world's the best, but I

56:19

really do want Matt's all

56:21

the rain at one moment

56:24

thing. So I'm kind of

56:26

on the fence there. And

56:28

you know you will watch

56:30

the Silicon Valley Peace in

56:33

Harmony, man. I'm not against

56:35

that. That's not my goal

56:37

in life, but I do

56:39

want them to have that

56:42

freedom. So yeah, I mean,

56:44

all these worlds sound pretty

56:46

good. What I'm kind of

56:49

boned about is they don't

56:51

have any musical accompaniment for

56:53

any of this. Matt, can

56:55

you sing, how about theme

56:58

songs? I mean, now you

57:00

know our worlds. You've heard

57:02

everything about Matt World, everything

57:04

about Adam World, everything about

57:07

Jared World, maybe a ditty

57:09

world, maybe a ditty for

57:11

each or one that encompasses

57:14

all three, whatever you're thinking

57:16

here. You get that guitar

57:18

out. Right, let's do it,

57:20

let's go on a trip

57:23

around this weird. solar system.

57:25

Won't you come with me

57:27

please on a big big

57:29

journey? We're gonna make sure

57:32

you put your own mask

57:34

on first before you help

57:36

anybody. You can sit on

57:38

a floating sofa. You can

57:41

ride a sleeper car. If

57:43

you want to write docs

57:45

though, you're the only one

57:48

that has to do it

57:50

okay. Because all the rain

57:52

falls in one go. Everybody

57:54

wears pointyats. All

57:57

the cars are

58:00

pointed and all.

58:02

Well, the buildings

58:04

are also pointed.

58:06

Why? Why? Well,

58:08

it's because... Because?

58:10

Because of the

58:13

rain. Do you

58:15

like Silicon Valley?

58:17

If you do,

58:19

you're like Silicon

58:21

Valley. If you

58:24

do, you're gonna

58:26

like this place.

58:28

You can watch

58:30

it. time you

58:32

like in peace

58:35

and harmony. If

58:37

you don't like

58:39

it though, I

58:41

don't know what

58:43

happens to you.

58:45

I assume that

58:48

it's not great

58:50

maybe you get

58:52

shunned. Or we

58:54

can go to

58:56

Jared World now.

58:59

Jeddered World Where all

59:01

things you eat that

59:04

are nice that bad

59:06

that means they're good

59:08

for you Lucky could

59:10

eat a bad sandwich,

59:13

but you like it

59:15

anyway. Well, I got

59:17

news for you. We

59:19

paid attention that sandwich

59:22

is now good for

59:24

you. Yes, you're gonna

59:26

like J And

59:33

if you don't, just

59:36

get in the rocket,

59:38

we'll take you to

59:40

space, take you back

59:42

home. Would you like

59:45

a little packet of

59:47

pretzels? In the event

59:49

of an emergency, please

59:51

put your own mask

59:54

on. For helping anyone

59:56

else. Very

1:00:00

nice. Very nice. Woof indeed. That's

1:00:02

the sort of reaction you look

1:00:04

for after a song. No, one

1:00:07

mention of compression. Sad. But don't...

1:00:09

No, one mention of compression, man.

1:00:11

Oh yeah. Well, it was in

1:00:13

there. You might start crying again.

1:00:15

No, it was in there between

1:00:18

all the words. Yeah, you compressed

1:00:20

it. Oh, I sure did. This

1:00:22

is not what we call peace

1:00:24

and harmony. I got out of

1:00:27

that so good. I got out

1:00:29

of that. Cuz of the compression

1:00:31

thing. I think Matt really highlighted

1:00:33

his points more than ours. Don't

1:00:36

you think Adam? I mean, he

1:00:38

even brought back the little pretzels.

1:00:40

You know, it's like none of

1:00:42

us were talking about pretzels, but

1:00:44

Matt. I don't know about few,

1:00:47

but when he said, uh... I

1:00:49

mean, no mention of a dissincent

1:00:51

incinerator at all at all. I

1:00:53

was trying to remember that stuff,

1:00:56

but what I should have done

1:00:58

is written it down. That would

1:01:00

have been good. We gave you

1:01:02

plenty of time, you know? Yeah.

1:01:05

I mean, Adam cried for a

1:01:07

good 45 seconds. Yeah, I know,

1:01:09

but that was just so touching.

1:01:11

It was like watching the Morgan

1:01:13

Freeman film at the end, where

1:01:16

it does a long speech, it

1:01:18

tells you all about this moral

1:01:20

of the story. That sort of

1:01:22

thing. Right. Is that right? What's

1:01:25

probably your favorite Morgan Freeman movie?

1:01:27

I like that one, God, Bruce

1:01:29

Almighty. That's a good one. Such

1:01:31

a short row, though. God. Yeah,

1:01:34

but important. He wasn't really in

1:01:36

the film a lot. Well, you

1:01:38

know. Not bad. Only did his

1:01:40

really did his thing for a

1:01:42

week there, didn't he? And it

1:01:45

took him a week to build

1:01:47

all the universe and all the

1:01:49

people. That's right. That's right. That's

1:01:51

right. had to do loads of

1:01:54

work and to keep his main

1:01:56

job. A lot of emails, a

1:01:58

lot of emails, a lot of

1:02:00

emails. I think that movie pay...

1:02:03

in comparison to Shashank redemption, which

1:02:05

is one of the best movies

1:02:07

of all time. That's probably true.

1:02:09

It's often in the lists. It

1:02:11

is, because it's just that good.

1:02:14

Yeah, it really is good too,

1:02:16

so. Yeah, it's fair enough. Like

1:02:18

sometimes you'll have a popular album

1:02:20

and you're like, yeah, I don't

1:02:23

really like a popular album and

1:02:25

you're like, yeah, I don't really

1:02:27

like that band because it's so

1:02:29

long. Shashank's long? It's a pretty

1:02:31

long movie. It's a fairly, it's

1:02:34

not a short movie. No. It's

1:02:36

not a three hour movie, but

1:02:38

it's long. I heard it was

1:02:40

a flop when it first came

1:02:43

out and people were like, yeah.

1:02:45

And then it just grew and

1:02:47

grew. It wasn't like a big

1:02:49

opening weekend. Not like, you know,

1:02:52

flust. Was the fast of the,

1:02:54

the Fast and the Furious cars.

1:02:56

Well, you know, Marvel. Right. TBS

1:02:58

or perhaps TNT, which might be

1:03:00

the same company, I don't even

1:03:03

know, because its rise to fame

1:03:05

really was over like the course

1:03:07

of 10 to 15 years when

1:03:09

it was just on like TBS

1:03:12

on like a Saturday afternoon, probably

1:03:14

every Saturday or Sunday for years,

1:03:16

and it gave like an entire

1:03:18

generation, an opportunity to watch it

1:03:21

and watch it over and over

1:03:23

again, and just fall in love

1:03:25

with it. Because yeah, it wasn't

1:03:27

like it moved, changed the world

1:03:29

when it was in theaters or

1:03:32

anything. But it is, it's classic,

1:03:34

and if you look at those

1:03:36

lists, which I sometimes do, and

1:03:38

I'm like, I'm gonna start at

1:03:41

the top film of all time,

1:03:43

which is usually a godfather or

1:03:45

two. Yeah. And go down the

1:03:47

list until I haven't seen one,

1:03:50

and then that's the one I

1:03:52

have to then watch. And honestly,

1:03:54

they really are all good. Yeah,

1:03:56

they're all really thinking good. And

1:03:58

if you like the guy in

1:04:01

the room going, I don't like

1:04:03

that. that one because you're probably

1:04:05

wrong. Yeah, yeah. But let me

1:04:07

do that for a second. Okay,

1:04:10

so Citizen Kane though. Like that

1:04:12

one's like well-known top number one

1:04:14

and that's what I'm always like,

1:04:16

yeah, I've seen it, but I

1:04:19

wouldn't go back and watch it.

1:04:21

I appreciate it for its quality,

1:04:23

whatever, whatever. But I'd watch Shawshang

1:04:25

like a hundred times before I'd

1:04:27

watched Citizen Kane again. Maybe just

1:04:30

because it's that old of a

1:04:32

movie. I mean, I mean, it's.

1:04:34

Doesn't deserve it. I just feel

1:04:36

like I could take her leave

1:04:39

it myself So there there I'm

1:04:41

that guy, you know It's I'm

1:04:43

that guy with the citizen code

1:04:45

as well. Okay, cool. So but

1:04:47

but we're probably wrong We probably

1:04:50

are well. We're at least wrong

1:04:52

together, you know, yeah, exactly. That's

1:04:54

what that's why I come on

1:04:56

this podcast. That's right. We can

1:04:59

watch Shawshank in peace and harmony

1:05:01

One would pray all right. What

1:05:03

else should we? Should we hard

1:05:05

segue into a different topic? Should

1:05:08

we say goodbye? Should we? Reinvent

1:05:10

new worlds beyond... I just want

1:05:12

to mention one thing that was

1:05:14

like not really talked about much.

1:05:16

Okay. Uptick mineral water. Oh yeah,

1:05:19

I don't know what that is.

1:05:21

Uptick. You drink this mineral water.

1:05:23

Not only do you get a

1:05:25

physical uptick. You get a website

1:05:28

traffic boost as well. Yeah, this

1:05:30

is good. Brings you growth. Makes

1:05:32

your internet fast. And yeah, well,

1:05:34

I mean, you know, that's the

1:05:37

it helps you get the people

1:05:39

to buy your thing uptick. It

1:05:41

does a lot of things this

1:05:43

uptick. Is it natural as it

1:05:45

come out of a spring? It's

1:05:48

a mineral water. Yeah. Best thing

1:05:50

for you. Not if you don't

1:05:52

like the taste of it. Some

1:05:54

would call it amazing. Honestly. Mineral

1:05:57

water that gives you a physical

1:06:00

And a digital uptick. Uptick. Uptick.

1:06:02

Who doesn't want an uptick? Who

1:06:04

doesn't indeed? You know what? I

1:06:06

live daily for an uptick. Can

1:06:08

you see my, this gadget that

1:06:10

I have in real life? Oh

1:06:12

wow, what is this? So there's

1:06:15

like two lights around your neck?

1:06:17

Those are personal headlights. Yeah. Kind

1:06:19

of like, what? So you have

1:06:21

like, what is this mad? This

1:06:23

is kind of like personal headlights.

1:06:25

It's sort of like that. If

1:06:28

you're reading a book. You

1:06:30

you wear these light kind of

1:06:33

collar There's a sort of collar

1:06:35

to it. It looks like the

1:06:37

kind of thing you like the

1:06:39

pillow you put on on an

1:06:41

airplane Yeah pop it around your

1:06:44

neck put your own mask on

1:06:46

before any helping anyone else is

1:06:48

all right your own Headlights on

1:06:50

before helping your friends or your

1:06:53

children And then you can read

1:06:55

because there's more light on the

1:06:57

it shines light on your book.

1:06:59

What if you just had instead

1:07:01

right here Matt? See this part.

1:07:04

Yeah face it back into you

1:07:06

Right. What if you just had

1:07:08

like these like, they were magnets,

1:07:10

the same lights, and they would

1:07:13

call it power over skin. Okay.

1:07:15

P. Oh, right. Your skin would

1:07:17

electronically transmit the power. You click

1:07:19

the lights to your neck. Power

1:07:21

via your heartbeat and boom light.

1:07:24

So are they poles? I don't

1:07:26

know if they would pulse. I

1:07:28

mean, maybe they have different, you

1:07:30

know, your bodies provide the power

1:07:33

at that point, you know, but

1:07:35

they, you know, they can use

1:07:37

the power to blink or to

1:07:39

go blue or green or to

1:07:41

be this, you know, I'm thinking

1:07:44

maybe like 3,600 Kelvin right now,

1:07:46

roughly. Yeah, 4,700 maybe. I wish

1:07:48

you could like experiment more with

1:07:50

stuff in your body. Like, yeah,

1:07:53

I've gone for LEDs or... Extra

1:07:55

arm. Isn't it? Gen 2 arms?

1:07:57

Yeah, if you have, imagine an

1:07:59

extra arm coming out of your

1:08:01

side. Here's a weird thing. Well

1:08:04

imagine picking something up with it

1:08:06

now kind of kind of kind

1:08:08

of know how to feel you

1:08:10

kind of know how that would

1:08:13

feel yeah like an art theory

1:08:15

Yeah, but like imagine I think

1:08:17

you imagine it you've got an

1:08:19

arm coming out of your side

1:08:21

I am right keep saying that

1:08:24

like I'm not imagining it, but

1:08:26

yeah, yeah, I just can't tell

1:08:28

I can't tell what you imagine

1:08:30

I'm with you. You can't tell

1:08:33

what you're imagining or not. Well,

1:08:35

I'm wondering, could you feel when

1:08:37

the power over your skin, like,

1:08:39

would you feel the electricity running

1:08:41

through your veins? Imperceptible. Oh, wow.

1:08:44

The reason why is your, would

1:08:46

you, do you feel it now?

1:08:48

You're already electrical. I'm carbon-nourbs. Touch

1:08:50

your, touch your fingertip. That's an

1:08:53

electrical pulse. Yeah, I do feel

1:08:55

like electricity inside your body. A

1:08:57

little voltage, baby. Yeah, but I

1:08:59

mean you're talking like light up

1:09:01

a light of a light bulb.

1:09:04

Lightball sets, sets, low voltage. That's

1:09:06

five volts or less, man. You

1:09:08

don't feel that. Have you ever

1:09:10

peed on electric fence? No, because

1:09:13

they say don't do that. In

1:09:15

my world, one of the laws

1:09:17

that I didn't have to mention

1:09:19

was that. You don't pee on

1:09:21

the electric fence. You just don't

1:09:24

do it. Oh yeah. There's a

1:09:26

song about it too, is you

1:09:28

hear the song? Oh yeah, yeah,

1:09:30

yeah, the song about not peeing

1:09:33

on the electric fence. Don't pee.

1:09:35

Matt, how's that one going again?

1:09:37

On the electric fence. Go ahead

1:09:39

Matt, give us some rendition of

1:09:41

the, don't pee on the electric

1:09:44

fence. There you go. Yeah, yeah,

1:09:46

I got it. Okay, good. I

1:09:48

wonder what genre this is gonna

1:09:50

be. Uh, nursery rhyme. Did it

1:09:53

run? Yeah, that's a good pace.

1:09:55

No rush, you're in no rush

1:09:57

to pee on that fence. Hey

1:09:59

when you're going at for walk.

1:10:01

Something I gotta tell you let's

1:10:04

have a talk. Because if you

1:10:06

need to go then something you

1:10:08

should know don't go on that

1:10:10

electric fence I did it once

1:10:13

and not again I'm electric now

1:10:15

and then I couldn't even really

1:10:17

believe how it made me feel

1:10:29

It burns its things. Oh yeah, it

1:10:31

burns its things. It hurts. So, because

1:10:33

the idea there that you actually peed

1:10:36

on it while you were singing the

1:10:38

song even? Yeah, you get into these

1:10:40

songs going. You do it, you show

1:10:43

the more, that's why I sped up,

1:10:45

because he just... It hurt the burns

1:10:47

its things. Yeah. That's like, that's gonna

1:10:50

be a class. That's good stuff, man.

1:10:52

You had your headlights on to your

1:10:54

personal headlights. Now Matt, when you wear

1:10:57

those on the airplane, can you see

1:10:59

the very bottom and get that very

1:11:01

last little pretzel? Is that what those

1:11:04

are for? You can take these on

1:11:06

an airplane. Get down there in the

1:11:08

bottom of the bag. But the problem

1:11:11

is when they turn all the lights

1:11:13

off, so everyone goes to sleepy time,

1:11:15

then you got your lights on, it's

1:11:18

really annoying for everyone. Yeah, you gotta

1:11:20

say sorry. Is there a dim mode?

1:11:22

You know, maybe a, you know, you

1:11:25

know, you know, maybe, you know, you

1:11:27

know, you know, like, like, like, like,

1:11:29

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:32

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:34

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:36

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:39

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:41

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:11:43

like, like, like, like, like Oh yeah

1:11:45

there's more bright. There's like three levels.

1:11:48

Yeah. So I can have it on

1:11:50

the low mode. Three modes. Yeah that

1:11:52

low mode is actually kind of high.

1:11:55

We need to go a little lower

1:11:57

than that. Do they measure that nets?

1:11:59

I don't because we that's what we

1:12:02

call headlice and that just as a

1:12:04

unit for measurement it went out of

1:12:06

fashion years ago. What do you measure

1:12:09

it in then? Net widths? We just

1:12:11

we still use inches. Oh yeah, light,

1:12:13

not for light, just like squinting. Lumens

1:12:16

was a long count on that. No,

1:12:18

it's like if it's a big squint.

1:12:20

that light. If you're like, oh what

1:12:23

you're doing, turn that off, then you

1:12:25

know it's really bright. So it's more

1:12:27

or less squints? Yeah, it's a medium

1:12:30

squint light. Yeah, you can get candles

1:12:32

there a thousand squints. Well, listeners, I'm

1:12:34

so glad you tuned today. Me too,

1:12:37

Listen, it was... I think we all

1:12:39

learned something. I'm loving the guitar picking

1:12:41

as we outro this. Like as if

1:12:44

it's an undercurrent or an undertone so

1:12:46

to speak to these words I'm speaking.

1:12:48

Well, thank you friends, loved ones. Choose

1:12:51

your world wisely and we'll see you

1:12:53

in the world. Bye friends. Well

1:13:20

friends, which world was your favorite world? Matt

1:13:22

world. I just want to say that I

1:13:25

don't know if I got the memo on

1:13:27

the assignment. Like Jared did a really good

1:13:29

job. He made a real world. I was

1:13:31

trying to be funny. I was just gonna

1:13:33

like do my thing with Silicon Valley. You

1:13:36

know, I don't know. Matt of course is

1:13:38

always cheeky, polite, funny, witty, comedic, and I

1:13:40

suppose pretty decent with the song. But let

1:13:42

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