Dave and Chris talk about three keys to success before they are joined by iconic American chef, Nancy Silverton. They discuss with Nancy how to follow your gut (literally and figuratively), make your own path, and work hard. After, Nancy joins for a fun MOIF where we hear some hot takes about desserts and Italian food from a master of both.

Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Nancy SilvertonVideo/Audio Producer: Felipe GuilherminoMajordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David MeyerEditor: Stefano SanchezLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices